Is anyone else feeling it?

[iridescentblack]

I hate to see skeptics and believers going at it like this. Is there any way we can resolve these reality v non-reality issues? One day skeptics and believers will have to meet half way on these things... otherwise we're fucked. Need evidence for that, you badgers? Go look in a fucking history book.

 

[Ninae]

Ever noticed the way when someone are trying to bring some light to humanity someone has to block it?

 

[Munchkoala]

Do you realize you are being metaphorical with the word "light"?

If you wish to make your views known, then you should be open to criticism.

Philosophy = love of knowledge.

I have my own spiritual views but I do not equate them with reality.

 

[L2R]

People always think they live in the most momentous of times. People having been predicted dramatic upheaval and judgement for millennia. End times, shifts in consciouessness. I'm sure that something great and massive is what we need, but history suggests we simply have to make do with what we have, make the best of things and stop looking for external salvation. It hasn't come yet, despite our dire need.

spot on

You seem to be delusional.

she has been posting this stuff for years here, however where there was anxiety formerly, now there is a hopefulness in her posts. ninae isn't hurting anyone, and she seems not to be suffering herself, so it is entirely tolerable for now. please stay friendly.

I get offended when people equate spiritual experience with mental illness.

agreed, but that is not what is happening in this thread.

 

[Munchkoala]

she has been posting this stuff for years here, however where there was anxiety formerly, now there is a hopefulness in her posts. Ninae isn't hurting anyone, and she seems not to be suffering herself, so it is entirely tolerable for now. Please stay friendly.

ok.

 

[Munchkoala]

If I understand correctly, Ninae is like the little sister of BL P&S.

Can we start again, Ninae?

Do you partake in yoga or meditation?

I do, and I find it to be a spiritual experience the majority of the time.

 

[Ninae]

More like the big sister.

I do yoga, meditation, and clear my energy centers daily. I might make a thread about some of the things I've done. I'm also a vegetarian (mostly fruitarian/raw-foodist).

 

[Munchkoala]

Sounds like you're very healthy.

What does "clear my energy centers" mean? Does it mean what I think it means?

 

[Ninae]

Umm, I use visualisation techniques (and mantras/prayer).

Like seeing beams of light going through your energy centers and clear out the blockages. Most of us carry on a lot and should clear regularly.

 

[Munchkoala]

Do you ever picture alternating colours, when focussing on different parts of your body, while you are meditating?

I find that is very calming.

 

[Ninae]

Mostly the chakra colours, the violet flame, or white/golden light. There's only imagination to limit what you can do.

 

[Xorkoth]

It's obvious to me that reality is changing, because my reality is changing. Life talks to me in a much more direct way and I'm listening and humbled.

I find this to be the case with me as well, I am flowing with life much more freely and listening to my intuition and I find I'm usually right about things. However I know why this is, it's because I removed the impediments weighing me down and involved myself heavily in things that inspire me and bring me joy and passion. I'm surrounded by love and support and beautiful things. So it's only natural that I would become re-connected with the state we are all capable of and most of us experience as children, before we get all corrupted by the world. I have made a conscious decision to live this way, but it's not magic, it's willpower and opportunity. I am lucky enough to live in a world where my survival needs are all but given, and where I am able to pursue my passions and have a tribe of other humans in which we lift each other up and support each other as we truly are, and I see the value and beauty in choosing to live life "in the flow", so I am embracing this opportunity to do so.

The reason I don't believe that this is also due to some sort of universal or planetary shift happening on some higher plane with higher beings is because I know just as many people who are not feeling this way at all, just as I always have known people living this way and not living this way. Just because I'm feeling it and others I know are does not mean it's something special (aside from the fact that being able to live life as an open human is a pretty fucking special thing in itself).

Incidentally I DO believe there is a shift happening; there is always a shift happening of some sort. Culturally in my country, young people (all kinds of people but especially young people) are finding it easier and easier to pursue the life that brings them joy, because there are fewer rigid societal expectations of what one should be, and what is acceptable. We are increasingly free to be who we are, rather than feeling like we need to be pigeon-holed into some narrow definition of "successful human". The result of this, naturally, is that more people would end up living fulfilling lives, and people who are fulfilled and happy and free of societal dogma are more likely to be connected to the unmolested nature of humanity and themselves. I choose to believe that as people of the younger generation come more into dominance over those who are currently dominant and have been for a long time, the world (at least much of the world) will improve, as people who are more tuned in to the critical problems we face, and more caring of the greater good, and more connected to others, come into power. I don't know whether this will happen for sure, but I am in control of my own perspective and believing this gives me hope (and I see evidence for it), and therefore increases my quality of life and reduces my negative baggage that used to drag me down.

The power to be what we want to be rests in us and us alone. It's a nice idea to think that there are angels and higher-dimensional beings that are lovingly guiding us towards a golden age, but I think it's just wishful thinking at best, and at worst it removes responsibility for our own future from us, which is what got us into a lot of these messes in the first place.

Of course I could be wrong, maybe Archangel Michael is trying to talk to me right now. But my explanation rings a lot more true to me, so that's what I'm going with.

 

[Ninae]

Your angels are always talking to you. It can be through images, thoughts or phrases, or placing memories or songs in your head. They can see us, even if we can't see them, so they will be sitting beside you talking to you but we often can't hear them.

 

[-=SS=-]

I find this to be the case with me as well, I am flowing with life much more freely and listening to my intuition and I find I'm usually right about things.

Do you mind if I ask where abouts you are in the world and what you do for a living? Forgive me if I've asked this before, and also if you don't want to share in public I will understand.

The reason I don't believe that this is also due to some sort of universal or planetary shift happening on some higher plane with higher beings is because I know just as many people who are not feeling this way at all, just as I always have known people living this way and not living this way. Just because I'm feeling it and others I know are does not mean it's something special (aside from the fact that being able to live life as an open human is a pretty fucking special thing in itself).

It might be a good idea for anyone who believes something magical is happening to think about people living in tribes and disconnected from the modern world altogether. Are these people feeling anything I wonder? Another is to look at Terence McKenna and his timewave theory. He made a good case, as have others before him. But what has it amounted to? Nothing. I think his in particular is a great example to pick on, perhaps the example.. because this was a man who understood the level of bullshit in the world, and yet peddled a theory which was completely absurd. I'm not convinced he actually believed it either and that he was just trying to sell his story to make ends meet, like many others do.

Incidentally I DO believe there is a shift happening; there is always a shift happening of some sort. Culturally in my country, young people (all kinds of people but especially young people) are finding it easier and easier to pursue the life that brings them joy, because there are fewer rigid societal expectations of what one should be, and what is acceptable. We are increasingly free to be who we are, rather than feeling like we need to be pigeon-holed into some narrow definition of "successful human". The result of this, naturally, is that more people would end up living fulfilling lives, and people who are fulfilled and happy and free of societal dogma are more likely to be connected to the unmolested nature of humanity and themselves. I choose to believe that as people of the younger generation come more into dominance over those who are currently dominant and have been for a long time, the world (at least much of the world) will improve, as people who are more tuned in to the critical problems we face, and more caring of the greater good, and more connected to others, come into power. I don't know whether this will happen for sure, but I am in control of my own perspective and believing this gives me hope (and I see evidence for it), and therefore increases my quality of life and reduces my negative baggage that used to drag me down.

I'm hesitant to call a victory so soon. Personally I think it's only going to accelerate the disintegration of human civilization. On the one hand we've liberated a lot for the individual, but as a society we've destroyed too many institutions and traditions that helped bind us all together. Without any unity we become atomized and far more malleable for controlling forces. Love, drugs, music and free spiritedness is only going to carry us so far before the exigencies of life press on us, as they always do so long as we have bodies. In our quest for a better society we may destroy the only foundation we have by forcing things too quickly. There's a nice parallel between communities and towns, and what has happened to those places as a result of globalization and changing social structures/beliefs.. it hasn't been positive.

As for young people. Hah! I wish man.. I honestly do. I get the sense there's a drive for more important things, friendship, community and so forth.. but no one has a plan of how to get there. Again there's this desire to bring down more institutions and break away.. but break away to what? Who's going to feed us? Cloth us? It's like the hippy movement all over again. For those who are working within the system.. I think they're even more helpless than the previous generation was.. completely addicted to technology, drugs, money and so forth.. and exposed to the same pressures as every generation before them.. the game changes people. Institutions and work places have their own states of mind that aren't easily broken. Sometimes I even get the impression that very large institutions are actually conscious entities which then in turn influence those who work within its structure. A scary thought.

Overall I see a seriously negative trend emerging, not a positive one. We've been living in the most peaceful global era in all of history, but I don't think it's going to last. The economic situation alone is cause for serious concern.. we've clearly reached the limits of this model.. and you know what that means is coming? War. A big war.

 

[Ninae]

I don't see a war. I think some form of economic collapse and social unrest is almost without a doubt coming, though. The only question is how we will pull through it.

 

[-=SS=-]

I don't see a war. I think some form of economic collapse and social unrest is almost without a doubt coming, though. The only question is how we will pull through it.

War. All the peace and love tends to go out the window when people get desperate. If the rug got pulled and the government said war is what would save us, I'd bet my bottom dollar we'd all go along with it.

 

[Xorkoth]

Do you mind if I ask where abouts you are in the world and what you do for a living? Forgive me if I've asked this before, and also if you don't want to share in public I will understand.

I live in the North Carolina mountains in the US, a beautiful place I moved to and love very much. I do computer programming for my job, and due to being invaluable and then moving away from where the physical office is, I have been working from my home office for the past 7 and a half years. I am also pursuing music and am in 2 bands which are both starting to gig a lot more and become more successful... it's the main thing I'm focused on. So, I'm definitely lucky and my situation makes it easier to be positive and feel the way I do; there's virtually nothing in the way. Of course I moved here and made life decisions because I had the feeling it would allow me to live this way, so it was at least largely by design.

I'm hesitant to call a victory so soon. Personally I think it's only going to accelerate the disintegration of human civilization. On the one hand we've liberated a lot for the individual, but as a society we've destroyed too many institutions and traditions that helped bind us all together. Without any unity we become atomized and far more malleable for controlling forces. Love, drugs, music and free spiritedness is only going to carry us so far before the exigencies of life press on us, as they always do so long as we have bodies. In our quest for a better society we may destroy the only foundation we have by forcing things too quickly. There's a nice parallel between communities and towns, and what has happened to those places as a result of globalization and changing social structures/beliefs.. it hasn't been positive.

As for young people. Hah! I wish man.. I honestly do. I get the sense there's a drive for more important things, friendship, community and so forth.. but no one has a plan of how to get there. Again there's this desire to bring down more institutions and break away.. but break away to what? Who's going to feed us? Cloth us? It's like the hippy movement all over again. For those who are working within the system.. I think they're even more helpless than the previous generation was.. completely addicted to technology, drugs, money and so forth.. and exposed to the same pressures as every generation before them.. the game changes people. Institutions and work places have their own states of mind that aren't easily broken. Sometimes I even get the impression that very large institutions are actually conscious entities which then in turn influence those who work within its structure. A scary thought.

Overall I see a seriously negative trend emerging, not a positive one. We've been living in the most peaceful global era in all of history, but I don't think it's going to last. The economic situation alone is cause for serious concern.. we've clearly reached the limits of this model.. and you know what that means is coming? War. A big war.

You may be right. For years I was stuck on this idea and it brought a lot of darkness to my life. I can see how your prediction would happen but it doesn't do me any good to dwell on it so I try to be positive about it, see the good in things, and make my life right now as enjoyable and positive as I can. That way if it happens, at least I won't have spent the years I had the opportunity to live well slip away due to cynicism and internal darkness. Like I said, it's a choice I've made, choosing how to see the world and what to see in the world. Despite the issues I see a lot of good. Partly due to where I live (a warm and exciting community of people I relate to that has a tendency to celebrate life and in which there is an inordinate amount of creativity and art).

There's a fine line between denial and hope sometimes... when I was stuck in darkness (mainly due to opiate addiction and an abusive long-term relationship), I couldn't fathom how I could see the world any other way but when I got rid of those things and fully immersed myself in the culture I planted myself into, I began to see the positives, which still exist in this world in abundance. I am surrounded by a successful and beautiful community HERE and NOW, and that's what I choose to focus on. I think that, aside from someone who is perhaps inclined to enter the system and change it from the inside, the best one can do for the world is to be the best person they can be and hope it inspires others. I can't change global warming, environment destruction, political corruption, destructive greed, or anything else like that on a large scale, but I can change those things and my responses to them in me and I can hopefully influence others to change them in themselves. And then maybe they can influence more in the same way, and so on. I don't know if it will work but it makes me happy to try.

 

[Ninae]

It's just this kind of inner work we always hear is what really makes the difference. Due to the butterfly/domino effect. Like Gabriel said, even a single prayer can be what eventually shifts the balance of the world.

That is not the same as navel-gazing, it means realising what has been hidden from us - that we, each individually and especially combined, have the power to transform this world.

 

[Xorkoth]

^^ That I agree with.

 

[Ninae]

And especially critical to remember in these days - keep the level of your thoughts, feelings, and vibration as a whole as high as possible. The razor's edge.