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Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

Welcome to BL Antextasy!
It seems that you've been through a lot!
I have only met people being on opiates for that long (and in control) in cases of chronicle pain.
Hope you are okay.
Hope you have not experienced the Dark Side of heroin addiction.
Good to have you here.
Erik
 
If you want to write stimulants like amphetamine or meth will do way more for you in terms of creative writing and I've tried H, at least any decent afghan #3 and you will spend the night nodding out. I was a pale white, itchy, red eyed mess when I tried it.
 
The OP gets mega kudos from me. Immaculate thread. Don't try it once. It'll sweep you off your feet so quick then you have King Kong on your back.
 
I am not sure if this belongs in this thread but I have tried it. I like it but in severe moderation. I'm not all for the nod it kind of annoys me but I do like feeling good. I have used on and of for the past year and only got sick once. Because well, I didn't realize that you could get sick after three days... After getting sick one time it is quite enough motivation to stop for a couple days. The h is still there. I will still get to get high... I just have to wait. It's much better to say no now than in a couple days being so unbelievably uncomfortable that I can't stand it.

I think not everyone should try it. It's powerful stuff and hard to control yourself around.
 
there really isnt a good reason to try heroin..i mean, sure u will get very high for the first few weeks, maybe months but what else will happen?you will basicaallly start keping more to yourself, no reason to go out and see friends when you have heroin by your side..your days will soon revolve around shooting up, nodding, shooting up, nodding..THAT IS IT..those hours of bliss at the beginning of your heroin use are not even close to worth the countless hours u will spend fiending or in withdrawal down the road..
 
What's the maximum frequency of administration that one can use classical opiates without developing physical dependency?
 
Opiate dependency is weird and more complicated than with other drugs. There is some learning process, with every time you're doing an opioid even if it's just sporadic without rushing into w/d, some day you'll notice that it isn't that easy any more to stop. This doesn't occur for everybody but many seem to experience this.
 
red22 said:
What's the maximum frequency of administration that one can use classical opiates without developing physical dependency?
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I wouldn't worry about physical dependency in the short term...I'd be more worried that you're one of those people who's missing a heroin-shaped puzzle piece in your brain
 
red22 said:
What's the maximum frequency of administration that one can use classical opiates without developing physical dependency?
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Everyone is different and it all depends on how long, how strong and what drug you are using.
If you have recently stopped, just once would already make you will.

And if you are not used to it, it doesn't really matter, time will be the defining factor IMO/E.
 
Burnt Offerings said:
I wouldn't worry about physical dependency in the short term...I'd be more worried that you're one of those people who's missing a heroin-shaped puzzle piece in your brain
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this is very true..if when you first snort or shoot heroin, you think to yourself "i feel normal" or "this is the way i think i should feel all the time" then you are going to have a very difficult time quitting..the emptiness will always be there..its strange though how i felt great on heroin yet other members of my immediate family feel sick or crappy after taking any sort of opiate..just doesnt make sense to me..
 
I would advice: NO, it's a really outdated painkiller. These days there are soo much more substances too choose from, so why would you even try in my opinion the most boring substance to take. No depth, no insights, nothing but feeling the opiate sedation. If u wanna feel safe, warm and so high you blow your mind take a good dose of MDMA around 250mg, safer more fun, no addicted properties. Mdma stops working after a few days in a row so it forces you to take breaks
 
I wouldn't say the most boring IMO it's one of the most dangerous.
I'm living in an area without heroin and I can so clearly see the differences between all the addicts.
They won't be literally sick if they don't find their drug. They will not be happy but definitely not sick, sick.
That makes all the difference.

Some will still robb, and do everything to get their drug but the it's a milder appetite, so to speak.
It seems it's not essential for their routine. If they can't get it. They can wait another day, or 2 or more.
 
Stay the fuck away from heroin!

Where I'm from, heroin abuse is rampaging out of control. It has taken countless friends from me, including an ex-fiance a few years back. She had never even tried it when we were together. She took a shot in the bathtub, nodded off, and drowned. I lost a good friend of mine that I lost contact with for a few years this month. The guilt of not staying in touch with the kid eats at me...I had no idea he even used a needle...I feel as though had I kept in contact with him, he may have not chosen to ever use IV drugs. Have I used it? I would be an absolute fucking hypocrite and a liar to say no. I've shot it 3 times, and snorted it more than a few. Curiosity got the better of this cat. I never understood the whole romance of the syringe. I was terrified every time I used a rig, and got tested for intravenously transmitted diseases immediately after each time. Luckily, I'm able to say no, and don't have a habit. I'm not saying that I'm drug free, I definitely love my Mary Jane and what used to be the occasional roxy, but heroin is practically everywhere you look in my residing state...it's fucking sad and scary...the only thing you can do is be aware of the consequences for yourself and try to convince the ones you love the same thing.
 
Welcome to BL wikiidgremlin!! :)

I'm sorry to hear about you losses.
Awareness of the problem is always a priority!!
Hope to see you around.
Suggest you visit our threads like TDS, Other Drugs, Sober living.
Erik

 
This is from somebody who has, no. I'll be honest, I love it and go back to it everytime, but the dangers outweigh the benefits. I'm not physically addicted but mentally and I tell myself every weekend that I won't touch it and then go and buy a bun the next day. I'm not an everyday addict but a "weekend warrior". I stay sober all week and go crazy on the weekend.
 
That's dangerous indeed. People normally end up using more than they need.
If you don't get sick I'd try to use less during the weekends. Think of something different to do.
Skip one and see how the week goes.
Or just use what it takes not use it again on Sunday.
 
I can say that I wouldn't touch H with a ten foot pole. I do love pain killers ever now and then especially after a shitty day, but there's something about me. I don't like to be out of control for long periods of time and I feel like that's exactly what would happen if I dabbled in that stuff. No worth it to me.
 
Good to hear that! ;)
Heroin has its dark side and most people has a very tough time in getting their life back and become the "1%" that made through addiction.

It takes away most of our good things and memories in addition to your family, friends, money, love, sex, self esteem, and all the rest.
 
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