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Benzos Help - Will I have another seizure? VERY scared!(HIGH dose Xanax)

Thank you again to everyone for their concern. It means the world to me.


Well today is my last day I have access to xanax. I only have 6 left. I then have around 15 5mg valium left after that. I truly can not risk coming clean and going to detox AGAIN (for the 8th time). I have to cold turkey this. I know you all will think I am a fool but I really do not value my life. I have an education that I was blessed with that landed me jobs to earn considerably large amounts of money, plus I have a side venture going. Anyway, in the end, I always screw EVERYTHING up. It's been a non-stop pattern pretty much since I was 18. I'm too sick and tired of it. I'm over it. I always mess every opportunity up. Now I am a laid off junkie with nothing. I have not only drained my bank accounts, but am in debt tens of thousands of dollars. It is sad to say but I really do not care if I die. I felt like I was given every opportunity in this world and I fucked it up EVERY time.

So today before I go to work I will take my 6 xanax (coming down from my normal 40mg a day). Then tomorrow I will eat the remaining valium and roll the dice. Roll the dice. A perfect way to end this reply for a degenerate gambling loser such as myself. I hate to be morbid, but if you do not see me post here in a few days, it probably means I am either in the hospital after having a seizure or I died. My only hope is that someone can read through the posts I've made on this and various boards and learn from my mistakes, as I should have done when I was an impressionable teenager. Now over a decade later, I'm too tired of running in the spinning hamster wheel that is my life of using dope and xanax, getting clean, relapsing, jail, rehab, therapists, medications, fortunes of money gone, etc.

Please keep me in your thoughts. Hopefully third time WON'T be the charm because I've already had 4 grand mal seizures coming off xanax on two seperate occasions (2 each time). This will be my third time trying to stop.

I'm scared.

No one can say for sure, but you are probably going to be extremely uncomfortable if you go this route. It's not like you just explode in a nebula of excess; benzo wd is probably one of the shittiest ways to die I can think of. Why take something so easily ameliorated and make it so much worse? I mean, I get where you are coming from and have felt quite similarly when coming off of binges, but cold turkeying these types of drugs just causes unnecessary suffering. Your best options would be having a psychiatrist help you with a taper, tapering with diazepam or clonazepam from the streets, or tapering with diclazepam. They are all pretty simple and inexpensive considering your run has only been 4-6 weeks. But really, why risk stopping abruptly (esp. with a history of seizures) and going through hellish rebound/wd effects? Don't let this drug fuck with your head.
 
Love, listen to me. Please.

I know how you feel. Not long ago, I was more suicidal than I had EVER been. It was ....different, this time. Everything looked different to me. I saw everything differently. My mind was very dark.

And you know, I'm not gonna lie....it still is, somewhat. I'm still in some of the mess that lead me to feel that way. But, I'm trying.

What stopped me was this: I felt that, if I was SERIOUS about not wanting to go on, KNOWING the incredible PAIN I would cause a small handful of people should I kill myself/die by not caring about my life, I decided that the only right thing to do was to gove it ONE MORE GOOD TRY. A year. I'd give it a year, and try my ASS off like never before first.

And not just for those I'd hurt by willfully dying. Also for ME. Because really, rarely does anyone wanna die for the sake of dying itself. They simply don't wanna live in their present, overwhelming circumstances. But, if things were better, then living would be desired.

I KNOW you have it in you to muster up ALL of your strength ....let it outta those reserves you HAVE even if you think you don't. You DO. FIGHT. FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE MY FRIEND. IT'S WORTH IT.

Please PM me if you need to talk. I get it.

I've done a lot of mental/emotional work...that's the foundation. I have tried my best to be present for myself. To think, to figure out where this and that comes from. Why I do x, y, z....why a, b, c happens to me.

There are many hands here, outstretched to you, ready and willing and happy to care about your life FOR you, in the hopes that you'll see the reasons why reflected back at you.

There is always hope. I know how cliche that sounds. But it's still there. Or you wouldn't have reached out. You wouldn't be scared.

Please, Sweet Soul....stay here with us. I know it's so hard. It's hard for me, too.

But there's a fucking WARRIOR inside of you, just aching to explode out, and FIGHT for your life...YOUR life! Your beautiful, precious life!

I know. I know your life is precious even if you don't. Will you please think about trusting me?

I realize I have no power or control over you, and that you'll do whatever YOU decide to. All I can do is HOPE that you do like me, just make a promise to yourself, that you'll try your ASS off for a year.... that you'll look inside of yourself for the "why", the "what", the "how". That you'll use what you learn inside of yourself, about yourself, to find new ways to think and do things. Your brain, over time, has been rewired to think in this pessimostic way ...you can rewire it AGAIN tp think POSITIVELY & STRONG.

"So long as there is breath in me, that long will I persist. For now I know one of the greatest principles of success - if I persist long enough, I will win."

Please persist.

GET HELP TO STAY SAFE. You don't get to come back from death.

Peace, Strength, Calm, and LOVE to you my friend :-*

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" I have an education that I was blessed with that landed me jobs to earn considerably large amounts of money,plus I have a side venture going."

You say you screw everything up, but that's quite an accomplishment. I wish I were earning a lot, and even more, I wish I had my own side thing going!!! I'd LOVE to hear your story, how you did it, how you built that up...here or in PM. I'm not patronizing you to be clear; I'm literally trying RIGHT NOW to get into a side venture and could use a little more courage, I think!

Anyway, would love to chat and hear your story. :)

Peace.
 
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How is everything going, honey?

Update us if you can. I know I'm not the only one checking back here....

Be kind to yourself.

Peace.
 
Just checking up on you.

Sending you love, calm, focus, determination, wisdom, endurance, and STRENGTH.

Be well.

Peace.
 
I only took 5 today. Feeling lousy generally. After I lost my work I have been doing work as a bouncer so I think the rest of the week I am going to ask for a week off. It sucks too because the club I was bouncing at I made over $500 in tips in one night. I have 13 xanax left, which I'm sure are actually counterfeit and not real xanax, but do contain some sort of benzo (2090 V Qualitest I believe)

I will be slowly tapering from the 13 xanax, then switch to I think I have 12 5mg valium (I know, almost nothing).


I thank you again for your support, especially ABetterWay. It means a lot to me. I can get through the WD's, I just can't have the seizure. :(
 
the OP is a self absorbed douche bag...


he is the type to not heed advice so i have no sympathy for him.


1 sezure would of been enough for most people to quit..but not him he keeps at it
 
the OP is a self absorbed douche bag...


he is the type to not heed advice so i have no sympathy for him.


1 sezure would of been enough for most people to quit..but not him he keeps at it
You're an asshole. It's attitudes like this that bring about suicidal ideation. I post this after walking in front of a car going 40 from an in patient unit as I'm treated the same for seeking opiates for pain management even after 4 full withdrawals in 5 years.

Op hang in there. Hospitals are tough because of the system, but respect the staff and they will respect you.
 
the OP is a self absorbed douche bag...


he is the type to not heed advice so i have no sympathy for him.


1 sezure would of been enough for most people to quit..but not him he keeps at it

What is your problem, man?

I'm not even gonna bother going into all of the reasons you're incredibly out of line to come here and talk like this - you're not going to listen, anyway. It won't matter.

Instead, I'll just say, there are plenty of threads on BL for you to go comment on. No need to find a thread where someone is literally having a life or death struggle on more than one level, and leave a shitty comment like that.

You should hope that if you.ever find yourself in a desperate situation that people will be kind to you. And don't say that you'll never be in such a scary situation, because frankly your attitude tells me you're the type who thinks he knows a lot more than he actually does.

May you realize the error of your ways, how dangerous and harmful your words are, and may you learn and grow.

Anyone can make mistakes. No one is above getting in over their heads, under the right circumstances. You don't know their pain, their struggle. So please don't judge.

*******

Mankind, please ignore this poster. Really. Just ignore them, and talk with those of us who care and are happy to offer their care, concern, and support to you. There are many more of us than there are of those people like them.

I'm proud of you for putting one foot in front of the other despite feeling like crap. I'm praying for you that you don't have a seizure. You already know I wish you'd seek out medical care to avoid a seizure. And I know I can't force you to do anything I say. Please do whatever it takes to stay safe during this period of time. Listen to your body, and listen to your gut instinct.

I'm still worried about you. But I know you can make it to the other side, free from the prison of these pills, and I hope you get the help you need to do it safely. Better safe than sorry, as the saying goes.

I'm here! Always feel free to PM me, ok?

Thinking of you.

Love, strength, calm, hope, and peace to you, my Friend.
 
Hey Mankind.

Thinking of you and sending lots of love and strength your way. I know you can do this. Just listen to your body and your instinct, and get the appropriate help you need...

Take good care of yourself.

Peace :*
 
Tell your doctor you've been using huge doses and offer to do supervised consumption (realistically you're gonna get given take home but it shows willing).

Tell them you've had seizures.

And remember - you don't necesarily know if you've had a seizure. You simply come to (hopefully) and then have to put the pieces together.

A Dr should script you a real taper plan. They should understand seizure risk, they should get that you're in real danger, and you are. Even without the physical side effects that damage you can do to your mind (and life) under the stress of a long and heavy WD could be as devastating as a seizure.

You don't want to do this on your own fella. Seriously, benzo withdrawals suck every kind of unpleasant ass.
 
Thank you again for all the kindness. That one negative poster literally is meaningless to me in the light of everything that is going on.

The kind words outweigh the negativity 100 fold.

To the previous poster, Akerman, there is no way my doctor would do that. When I saw my previous psychiatrist (he left and the psychiatrist I am seeing now took over his practice) and told him I was taking 60mg - 80mg a day, he prescribed me eight 2mg Klonopin to "taper down". This Dr. it is out of the question to even get that little amount, let alone do some sort of monthly long drawn out taper. The thing that also is terrible is that if I keep failing my drug tests, he's going to stop prescribing my suboxone :(

God I am in such a fucking mess right now.
 
If I don't have anything nice to say, I won't say anything at all.
 
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I'm glad I was able to discipline you young man, along with the moderators. It still brings a smile to my face despite my predicament :D


I will keep this thread updated for all those who showed care and support. It truly means the world to me. Last night I worked my bouncing job and got by on 8 xanax which I know are real. Tonight I will have to cut back to 6 of the very iffy 2090 V (Qualitest I believe) ones. I googled them and there is an actual machine for pressing these tablets. They all look 100% uniform and look exactly alike, but they just dissolve so quickly when I put them in my mouth, and they don't have that strong benzo bitterness taste to them. I'm sure there is SOME sort of benzo in them, but I am not sure what. v Plus the dealer sells them at half the price of real, straight from the pharmacy 2mg bars or wafers. I have to work the next 5 days so I suspect there is going to be trouble ahead. I also need to be on my A game the next 3 nights for the clubs I am bouncing at because fights break out all the time. Myself and the other bouncers I work with are all train martial artists but I doubt I'd be very effective in benzo withdrawal :(

Thanks for the support guys.
 
Hey Mankind,

I know you talked about being on your A Game and needing to work the next week...please at least be MINDFUL of your body, listen to your body and LISTEN TO YOUR INSTINCT. I cannot stress that enough. I know I keep repeating that, but it's bevause I know I'm not going to convince you to get medical care on a daily basis/develop a safe plan with a professional.

So, at the VERY least, PLEASE listen to your body and don't let anything - ANYTHING - stop you from seeking medical care in the event that you need it to stay safe, to stay ALIVE.

Don't dismiss that little voice telling you you NEED HELP if it whispers to you. You don't get to come back from death.

I know you take a lot of other stuff. I'm very concerned for you. One step at a time. You will get healthy. You will improve. Just take it SLOWLY.

Please keep us updated.

You're in my thoughts and prayers.

Remember, as silly or simple or cliche as it sounds, LOVE YOURSELF. Have compassion for yourself as you would for another person.

No one gets in these kinds of situations when they love themselves enough. And for anyone misinterpreting my words, I'm not saying be conceited, or selfish, or constantly spoil yourself, etc...I'm saying, love, value, and appreciate yourself as you would someone else. Care about your well-being. Take good care of yourself. Listen to your body, and give it what it needs. Nourish your mind, heart, and soul...in addition to your body. Be gentle on yourself when you need to recharge. Acknowledge your strengths and weaknesses - be PROUD of your strengths, and work on your weaknesses without hating yourself. No one is perfect.

May you be happy. May you be well. May you be peaceful. May you be liberated. :-*

Peace.
 
When I read an account like this I usually have to respond. You are at really risky doses to try to be tapering yourself off. You need to get into a mecial detox ASAP , fuck your job. You may not be alive to work if you try to handle this yourself. Please go to an ER
 
Just stopping by to check on ya and remind you that people care.

Let us know how you're holding up and what you've been up to.

Be well.

Peace.
 
Hey Mankind,

I know you talked about being on your A Game and needing to work the next week...please at least be MINDFUL of your body, listen to your body and LISTEN TO YOUR INSTINCT. I cannot stress that enough. I know I keep repeating that, but it's bevause I know I'm not going to convince you to get medical care on a daily basis/develop a safe plan with a professional.

So, at the VERY least, PLEASE listen to your body and don't let anything - ANYTHING - stop you from seeking medical care in the event that you need it to stay safe, to stay ALIVE.

Don't dismiss that little voice telling you you NEED HELP if it whispers to you. You don't get to come back from death.

I know you take a lot of other stuff. I'm very concerned for you. One step at a time. You will get healthy. You will improve. Just take it SLOWLY.

Please keep us updated.

You're in my thoughts and prayers.

Remember, as silly or simple or cliche as it sounds, LOVE YOURSELF. Have compassion for yourself as you would for another person.

No one gets in these kinds of situations when they love themselves enough. And for anyone misinterpreting my words, I'm not saying be conceited, or selfish, or constantly spoil yourself, etc...I'm saying, love, value, and appreciate yourself as you would someone else. Care about your well-being. Take good care of yourself. Listen to your body, and give it what it needs. Nourish your mind, heart, and soul...in addition to your body. Be gentle on yourself when you need to recharge. Acknowledge your strengths and weaknesses - be PROUD of your strengths, and work on your weaknesses without hating yourself. No one is perfect.

May you be happy. May you be well. May you be peaceful. May you be liberated. :-*

Peace.

You really are a wonderful soul. Truly a kind human being. I wish I could give you a hug, male or female.

The 8 bars (16mg) held me over last night, because we got into a HUGE brawl of about 12 bouncers vs 20 patrons. Despite my job, I am a peaceful and kind man and only use force when necessary. I was blind sided by a punch, and it was almost like the adrenaline jolt made the semi-withdrawal I was feeling subside for a good 2 hours. Needless to say amblulances were called....and not for the bouncers ;)

I am continuing to be either very smart, or very stupid. I just picked up 30 more of the questionable 2090 V bars that I think are counterfeit but do contain some sort of benzo. I am going to continue to slowly taper day by day. Tonight I took 7 of them and feel pretty good. By pretty good I don't mean "high" in the slightest sense. I just mean somewhat normal, or not sick and in withdrawal. I will continue to cutback as slowly as I can.

Thank you for all of you kind words and advice. I am giving stern consternation to a 5 day detox in the next coming week.
 
Man, I don't know how you feel safe without having a huge stash. If I were you, I would carry thousands of every type of benzo that has ever been created on me, in different secret hiding spots with multiple copies of encrypted maps. What if you lost touch with your dealer? There is always a possibility of not being able to get more. Man, you're like a stoner picking up quarters, smoking them then picking up another quarter before going dry, but if you can't pick up for whatever reason you'll DIE man.
 
Wow, finally I've found someone who has walked a mile in my shoes.

I was actually PRESCRIBED 24mgs/day of Xanax for 4 years while I was heavily addicted to Oxycodone. This psychiatrist knew I was on roughly 600mg of Oxycodone per day yet started me on 5mg Xanax a day and worked me up to 24mg without me even asking to increase. By 10mg a day I was just a zombie seeing her every week and she would just increase the dose and I was so fucked up off the oxy and xan combined that I didn't really notice. Long story short I overdosed 5 times in 2 weeks requiring intubation and the 5th time pronounced dead on scene, luckily the intubation had me breathing by the end of the driveway.

The 5th time they certified me to the psych ward for 60 days. This was interesting as once I was stabilized, my doctor came into my lock down chamber with two nurses and told me to create my own tapering schedule using Valium to taper off the Xanax and Oxycontin to taper off of the OxyContin (which I thought was awesome). I tapered off 600mg of oxy per day and 24mgs of Xanax per day in 45 days and by day 55 I was feeling pretty good.

Anyways, enough about me, I just felt I needed to share my story with you as I have never actually come in contact with another human being that has taken the same amount of benzos that I have. Going through 100x2mg Klon in a week was like my specialty, I thought I was invincible.

The key here is that you CAN do it. Just listen to the doctors at the hospital. I pray that you find a good doctor like the one I had because if you end up with a stickler he is just going to frustrate and fuck you up even more because you'll just leave and relapse.

My suggestion would definitely be to hit the emergency room as soon as you start feeling withdrawals and have run out of mess though man. I have had the seizures, I have gone cold turkey, and I would not wish that on my worst enemy. Xanax is literally the worst drug to come off of in the entire world and I don't care what anybody says. I was climbing the fucking walls bro and you will be to, but just remember that you CAN do it. I promise. You CAN do it.

Feel free to pm me if you want to talk as I feel you and I are quite alike.

Hope you find a way out of this brother.
 
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