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LSD - does anyone agree? (argument about LSD being unhealthy)

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yes, ask MAPS, the organization involved with this forum. LSD in medical practice is given to terminally ill patients who want a more peaceful transition into the afterlife and it has immensely therapeutic effects. to claim otherwise would to be A FUCKING TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
 
Is that the consensus?

In Russian Roulette there is a danger for every player even if only one eats the bullet.
 
loneliness can drive people to play games like roulette
I think that what really makes people most mad is loneliness.
This particular argument persists to allay loneliness and as long as we participate we are helping in some way with the main problem.
 
That is a very nice temperament pupnik.

There is a bigger picture, absolutely.

I hope we can at least bicker with one another into old age.

Storms are beautiful.
 
if you got to handpick your dosage every time I'm telling you you wouldn't be comparing something as BENIGN as LSD to BULLETS. There are other ergot derivatives that are actually really good for your brain and won't make anyone psychotic, they make you smarter and have anti-aging effects, such as hydergine, bromocriptine, and nicergoline.

http://smart-drugs.net/article-hydergine2.htm

You just took a hit of acid, and your dose was too high so now you're like, "idk about that stuff its dangerous" when a dosage that would've just added a little magic to your evening would have left you right as rain. I don't even have much faith that you actually did take LSD, but rather something like 25-I-nbome. Which I would also argue is dangerous.
 
Shadowsblaze said:
I've seen it turn tough guy assholes into real persons who changed there behavior.
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This is how some of my closest friends described it's effects on me, many years ago. I'm sure it's already been said in this thread, but LSD should not be a "lifestyle." No psychedelic, and indeed very few medicines are ever safe when taken regularly. Furthermore, I would argue these substances only provide true value when taken very sparingly and for the right reasons.

I once hear it said that "the best use of psychedelics is not to enjoy yourself while on them, but to help better understand how to appreciate life while not on them." I can't say I disagree. :)

SG
 
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Taking 20 to 600 hits of LSD each day is equivalent to the dosage required for these ergot derivatives to produce therapeutic benefits. Was that the point you were trying to make?
 
SONN said:
if you got to handpick your dosage every time I'm telling you you wouldn't be comparing something as BENIGN as LSD to BULLETS. There are other ergot derivatives that are actually really good for your brain and won't make anyone psychotic, they make you smarter and have anti-aging effects, such as hydergine, bromocriptine, and nicergoline.

http://smart-drugs.net/article-hydergine2.htm

You just took a hit of acid, and your dose was too high so now you're like, "idk about that stuff its dangerous" when a dosage that would've just added a little magic to your evening would have left you right as rain. I don't even have much faith that you actually did take LSD, but rather something like 25-I-nbome. Which I would also argue is dangerous.
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I am just messing with you. I know you are talking about a dose 1000x smaller than those above, but I was not making a comparison between bullets and drugs either, I was stressing what danger means (do I win smart ass of the year yet?).

Also just because some chemical sounds or looks almost exactly like another means nothing in and of itself. Just look at radioactive isotopes. Then once again, and just to make a point, it should not simply be assumed low doses are inherently safer.

Seriously though, low dose LSD is what they have given as a placebo dose in certain studies and even early writers considered a hit (100 micrograms) an overdose of LSD; so maybe they are safe.

I think another safety mechanism is time between uses; I could see low dose usage not allowing for that, but that is simply based on personal experience (I have not found that in the literature).
 
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as someone who was sold 2 blotters of GENUINE LSD (i still know the guy and get his acid for people) as a 14 year old, i wish i could have undone that mistake. im susceptible to HPPD and found it immensely difficult going back to school and attempting to explain how bubbles look like tiny little flying planet earths to me now. after trying other trips like mushrooms, 2c's, synthetic tryptamines, pure DMT etc i think acid is probably one of my least favourite, and it definately leaves the same style of long lasting effects as Nbomes do. only on 25i/2ci have i experienced the same hyped up manic trips where we devolve into these hour long psychotic giggle fits over the silliest shit, i think those kind of tripping experiences are bad for the mind, i prefer a more peaceful trip. i think 2c-b is greatly preferable as an introductory classic psychedelic, or mild dose mushrooms.

i think people hold lsd with such a high regard because of what it means to the trip/hippie world, not how it actually IS as a subjective drug.
 
Whiteroom- I'm an INFP as well. I always feel alien and unusual compared to most, good to see another Lol. I bet this place is above the going rate as far as weirdo INFPs go. It Fits me 98% , my reaction in a conflict are still calculated though, not prone to irrational decision making. Just drugs...
 
whiteroom67 said:
Ahh I see... me, largely unnecessary for trying to achieve what I am searching for in the psychedelic experience.
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So, does this change the way you look at reality in your day to day or is tripping a separate experience where you know your senses are compromised and draw no astounding conclusion from it?
 
I see proper tripping not as way to temporarily enjoy oneself while tripping, but as a temporary way to see how to experience the joy of living when not tripping, or under the influence of anything, really. But everyone has their own way I guess.
 
You believe you find the joy of living and you have that when not under the influence of anything. Then what happens?
 
Well when we truly find the joy within living life when not needing to be under the influence of any drug on a regular basis, or even just in general, then I believe if we truly allow ourselves, we then become at peace with ourselves and our place within this lifetime, this universe, and we accept what and where we are, and everything we experience in this lifetime improves, within and throughout.
 
First time skimming through this thread. Hilarious. My girlfriend has strict parents(not born in North America) and they argue in very much the same way as the op. A closed off brick wall who will never change their stance and repeat the same ignorant statements ad nauseam. Eventually you have to lol every time and realize it's simply a waste of breath.
 
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