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slimshady793

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Hi,

can anybody tell me a few rcs which are comparable to mdma in terms of euphoria and empathy? I had great sucess with treating ptsd, dissociative disorder with mdma and methylone. Are there other rcs which are comparable?

I was thinking about the APBs maybe.
 
The APBs or the 2Cx families are probably the nearest. I've heard reports of 2cb being quite close to MDMA with more psychedlia.
 
^ sort of, though it's not a classic empathogen in any sense. the APBs are probably the closest relatives of MDMA, though it would be much easier to sustain 2C-B for a longer period of time as it's relatively nontoxic and won't deplete serotonin/etc in the same way.
 
I found 2cb to be nothing like MDMA - try 6 APB as it's quite similar.
 
Some friends of mine recommend 4-Methylmethcathinone (4-MMC), a.k.a. Mephedrone to be a close substitute for Mdma.
It's supposed to bring closely the same euphoria as Mdma, but without the psychedelic aspects and the body high.
But you shouldn't mess with the stuff too often, it could be dangerous and not much is known about it.

Other than that, Methylone is also similar to the effects of Mdma, but maybe without that "empathogenic", lovely feeling.

You can give Mda, Mdea, Mmda a shot too
 
ßk-2c-b far the most similar drug to MDMA.
I use it like 2 months and I never miss mdma.
Comparing to mdma, it has no comedowns, also no disturbing effects next days.
A slight headache if you're hungry and tired.

But still want to know more info about ßk-2c-b.
I give a break to drugs cuz can't predict the long term effects of this substance.
 
Thanks for help.

I think I will try 6-apb and bc-2c-b. What about the 5/6-eapbs? I will stay away from mephedrone, but I tried methylone and found it pretty close to MDMA. Unfortunately its difficult for me to get my hands on 2c-b or MDMA so I have to stick with other chemicals.
 
wtf are you guys talking about

4MMC is the only answer
mephedrone is not like MDMA, but it's what comes to mind when you ask for an "RC MDMA"
it's also much better than methylone
 
yeah, but mephedrone sounds to dangerous to me. I ordered it once...Looked at the stuff and decided not to try it ;) meth like crystals
 
6-APB is pretty close! I'm gonna try 4-FA next! Most people seem to have positive experiences with it, describing it as a sort of milder MDMA with less of a crap comedown/next day effects.
 
I wouldn't touch 4-FA myself.. 2-FA on the other hand seems great (for a halogen) but there's no need to fuck with sert like that.. i guess if that's your thing. Myself I'd prefer an amp analogue to be like an amp, not some goobed out dumbfest, especially since other para-amps that release SERT are neurotoxic.
 
Abject said:
I wouldn't touch 4-FA myself.. 2-FA on the other hand seems great (for a halogen) but there's no need to fuck with sert like that.. i guess if that's your thing. Myself I'd prefer an amp analogue to be like an amp, not some goobed out dumbfest, especially since other para-amps that release SERT are neurotoxic.
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Just for the record - SERT doesn't stand for Serotonin, it means Serotonin Reuptake Transporter.
 
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People tell me 5MAPB is much closer to MDMA than 5 & 6 apb which are more likened to MDA. I don't know but bk-2CB is more like a 2C drug than a roll to my mind.
 
According to Harvey, J. A. (1978). "Neurotoxic Action of Halogenated Amphetamines" as cited on wikipedia, 4-FA does not cause long-lasting depletion of serotonin unlike the other halogenated amphetamines or MDMA itself.

Are there reports for 5-MAPB out there yet? I remember looking into it a few months ago but not really finding much...
 
St3ve said:
According to Harvey, J. A. (1978). "Neurotoxic Action of Halogenated Amphetamines" as cited on wikipedia, 4-FA does not cause long-lasting depletion of serotonin unlike the other halogenated amphetamines or MDMA itself.

Are there reports for 5-MAPB out there yet? I remember looking into it a few months ago but not really finding much...
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There's no proof that any serotonin-releasing drug causes long-lasting depletion to be fair.
 
I seem to remember seeing a study done comparing a binge dosing protocol in rats on mephedrone, methylone, MDMA and maybe a few others. MDMA was the only there where after a week (or more, don't remember) the rats still showed below baseline levels of serotonin.
 
I've done 2c-b a couple of times and have found it to be for me a rather strong psychedelic, and nothing like MDMA, not entactogenic (although it is reputed to be), not empathogenic at all and not lovey.

I have not tried the BK 2c-b version. It sounds as though that is much different?
 
JWills20 said:
There's no proof that any serotonin-releasing drug causes long-lasting depletion to be fair.
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lol.


The authors found that striatal levels of serotonin and those of its metabolite 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid were severely depleted by 50 to 80% in brain of a chronic user of methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) whereas concentrations of dopamine were within the normal control range. Our data suggest that MDMA exposure in the human can cause decreased tissue stores of serotonin and therefore some of the behavioral effects of this drug of abuse could be caused by massive release and depletion of brain serotonin
http://www.neurology.org/content/55/2/294.short
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cosmosmariner said:
I've done 2c-b a couple of times and have found it to be for me a rather strong psychedelic, and nothing like MDMA, not entactogenic (although it is reputed to be), not empathogenic at all and not lovey.
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This. It's fun though. Best mixed with something else IMO
 
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