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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 25E-NBOMe Thread

Any more experiences with this compound? I enjoyed my last dose of 25d so much that I'm eager to try more of the alkylated NBOMe's.

It seems that people are dosing 0.5mg-1mg. Would you say it's about equipotent to 25i then? Or a little closer to 25c (750ug of 25c is my sweet spot)? Or another useful way I can gauge dosage; can anyone recommend a (complexed, buccal) dose which would be approximately equivalent to the intensity of 20mg 2c-e oral.

I will still be titrating but knowledge is power..
 
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This one is going to start becoming a lot more common. Any new reports on it? I was always on the fence about 2C-E. Sometimes I loved it but the misery of the come up... Ugh!
 
Figured I'd bump this with some tidbits.

A 1000mcg/ml aqueous solution of the HCl with 1% Tween 20 is active at 100-200mcg, strong psychedelic at 500mcg, 750ug-1000ug is almost too much. Not much difference between plugged/buccal.
 
So has anyone IMed these compounds? I don't snort, smoke, and buccal admin seems inconsistent. I bow to the power of 2C-E, reports in this thread make me very excited.
 
sekio said:
Figured I'd bump this with some tidbits.

A 1000mcg/ml aqueous solution of the HCl with 1% Tween 20 is active at 100-200mcg, strong psychedelic at 500mcg, 750ug-1000ug is almost too much. Not much difference between plugged/buccal.
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So for the folks at home, that should be equal to other preparations that use surfactants / are complexed but may be more potent than regular non-enhanced preparations?
 
I'd say that IM is pretty dangerous due too the very nature of the NBOMe compounds, I'm sure it would increase side effects as well, snorting is known to.

Buccal is not unreliable if you do it properly. I'm talking about NBOMe's in general of cause.
 
Fagott said:
I'd say that IM is pretty dangerous due too the very nature of the NBOMe compounds, I'm sure it would increase side effects as well, snorting is known to.

Buccal is not unreliable if you do it properly. I'm talking about NBOMe's in general of cause.
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I found the 2C family horrendous when snorted, but a few of them (2C-B, 2C-C, and 2C-D) are actually very nice when IMed. Onset is smooth and consistent, and gentle. I had assumed the NBOME family would be the same. Assuming all things equal (like the dose will be titrated up from a very small amount, etc), is there some property that should make the NBOMEs dangerous that route? I am not into snorting things....and with every drug I have tried snorted vs IM....IM is always preferable and even smoother in many regards.

Not ruling out buccal administration, but that would have to wait until such time as a complexed form is available for use.
 
^ I really would be extraordinarily cautious about IM with NBOMes. With them being so potent and dangerous with "safer" RoAs, I would think that IM would be a huge risk.
 
morninggloryseed said:
Onset is smooth and consistent, and gentle. I had assumed the NBOME family would be the same. Assuming all things equal (like the dose will be titrated up from a very small amount, etc)
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I think that's a wrong assumption, NBOMe's and 2C's don't have much in common. Also titrating doses with the NBOMe is difficult because they cause a monster tolerance like no other serotonergic psychedelic.

That said, I recall psyd00nym IM 25C in the beginning when it became available, so it sure is possible, and if done properly it might actually be safer than snorted, what do I know :)

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, is there some property that should make the NBOMEs dangerous that route?
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I think no one knows, there's just a lot of people dead from NBOMe's so using them warrants care. Buccal/sublingual just seems the safest ROA.

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Not ruling out buccal administration, but that would have to wait until such time as a complexed form is available for use.
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It doesn't need to be comlexed for buccal if it's the HCl salt.
 
Ok guys you convinced me. I will stick with buccal. I bet the complexing thing is something I can master....can't be as hard as getting white DMT fumarate from bark. :)
 
500ug IM was +++. Very clean phenethylamine and it seems 'classic psychedelic' enough for me to make silly posts I will always (try) editing away in the morning. :)
 
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500ug IM +++ in about 45 min.


LSD has a mythos about it, if you are lucky enough to have some LSD you have a special thing.
LSD is a fragile molecule and it has an incedible history.
If I were holding a gram of it, I would probably feel a lot of power.
LSD tartrate is so incredible, it will emit white sparks when shaken in dark.
Because of its history, and because it is difficult to make, and because it is fragile and will die
and because it is extremely valuable on the market, a gram of LSD is something you should feel a lot of power holding.

I don't feel anything earth shattering holding this substance in my hand.

But I do think if Hoffman came upon 25E-NBOME instead of his LSD-25
things would have still become psychedelic. Sure, the acid tests would have been a little less haphard
because there would have been a 2-drink limit for everyone's safety
but that's about it. I think if Hoffman made 25ENBOME I would feel I was holding something sacred.

From a strick POV, in my opinion this substitution accomplishes all that LSD does and I know that is saying a lot.
But I was really impressed and not just because I like phenethylamines and am partial (ok that may be some of it)
but it had almost no body impact and even with the best LSD, I still feel like I've taken a drug of some sort
25E was really clean. At about 8hr there is a minor comedownish feeling, but far less taxing than a dose of LSD.

I do see that it lacked a certain something, but it could very well be set/setting
There was no special purpose tonight and it did feel like I've been there before.
But I see a lot of potential with this substance.
I'm not sure there are many synthetics outside of the 2C family I really feel that way about
I love miprocin, iprocin, ethocin but none of them compare to mushrooms if we are being honest about it
For sure none of them compare to pure psilocin.

I would easily put 25ENBOME into the category of 'classic psychedelic' and I would also label it 'accessible' psychedelic. 2C-B is about the only other phenethylamine
that feels like that. I cannot say that of things like 2C-E, DOC, 2C-T-7 because I find these incredible tools,
they all are for one reason or another not psychedelics most people find useful or fun.

2C-B is the only other synthetic that really comes to mind as feeling this accessible.
But for the record, there was no 'shallow' feeling or 'this stuff isn't deep'
This was a substance that will have even the hard core head deeply satisfied I think.

I am not at the moment curious if I'll like the other NBOMEs but I wouldn't oppose the idea one day.

Sorry about the formatting, ill fix that later
 
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Really wanting to get in on this one now. Had some interest for awhile but.....
 
So for the folks at home, that should be equal to other preparations that use surfactants / are complexed but may be more potent than regular non-enhanced preparations?
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It should, yes. Anecdotal evidence suggests that adding 1% tween 20 increases the efficiency of buccal absorbtion just as well as HPB cyclodextrin. Maybe it's confrmation bias but I have noticed that non-"complexed" NBOMe is a little slower to be absorbed.

Other surfactants should work just as well. (Tween 80 is cheap... maybe even lecithin.)

Also, plugged administration of the same sol'n works very well, probably rather comparable to IM. Rapid onset (20 mins), peak in about 60 mins, about 4-6 hour duration, +++, with 500ug.

Starting dose should probably be about 200ug. For good +++ effects, try 500ug.

Effects are quite similar to LSD and other "classic" psychedelics. Visual distortions, dilated pupils, increased perceptual sensitivity. There's a bit of a stimulating, energetic "restless" component to it that should be familiar to anyone who's done 2C-E or larger doses of LSD, but nothing that is unbearable.

I do wonder if this would be useful in 50 - 100ug doses as a 2C-D/light LSD type nootropic/stimulant.
 
Maybe il just do 500mmg then. ya I complex wit hpbc. Ive done a few of the 25x's and tons of the 2cx's Im sure 500 will b fine
 
sekio said:
Starting dose should probably be about 200ug. For good +++ effects, try 500ug.

Effects are quite similar to LSD and other "classic" psychedelics. Visual distortions, dilated pupils, increased perceptual sensitivity. There's a bit of a stimulating, energetic "restless" component to it that should be familiar to anyone who's done 2C-E or larger doses of LSD, but nothing that is unbearable.

I do wonder if this would be useful in 50 - 100ug doses as a 2C-D/light LSD type nootropic/stimulant.
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I'll try a dose of 50ug-100ug and see how it stacks up in a week. I can concur that 500ug was probably twice as much as one would need for a light +++ unless there is a crazy dose/response curve at the low end of dosing.

I felt none of the restlessness of 2C-E. In fact, I was always on the lookout for '2C-E like effects' but to me there just wasn't any....visually it looked like 2C-B but there was a little bit of the 'DOM seriousness' to 25E-NBOMe. Thankfully none of the intensely unpleasant DOM energy. None of the 2C-E coldness that I normally associate with that substitution....yeah I just all around loved this stuff...25E-NBOMe was 'da bomb' I wish I had stock in it!

Makes me even more curious to see how the halo ones feel for me.
 
Did just under 1mg hpbc complexed buccual . 25e seems to kick in slower than the others but it has great visuals pretty similar 2ce with bodyload similar to other 25x's will definitely be doing this again. Ive done 25c,25i and i think this one is my favorite but i loved 2ce. when I get time I will do a trip report
 
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