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Anyone else had a codeine addiction?

I did in June and I blame my doctor a little bit.

It seems so common in the US to be nearly always be prescribed a Paracetamol/Opioid combination so that they're not abused (obviously you can do CWE's but at least they make the effort to stop abuse). But I've NEVER been prescribed Co-Codamol, Co-Dydramol etc... always 30mg Codeine Phosphate tablets, or 30mg Dihydrocodeine tabs so I could take as many as I wanted without the fear of taking too much Paracetamol.

Helped kick the habit with the help of a Psychiatrist (privately) and now only take opioids recreationally, no longer habitually.
 
I wouldn't say that I'm "addicted" to Codeine, but I definitely have a dependence.
I would also like to state that Codeine withdrawal is mostly (and quite surprisingly) physical, more than mental.

Errmmm.... I'm drunk so I'll end this here.
Good luck Eveleivibe <3~:)~<3
 
Yeah I've had a codeine/morphine then heroin addiction then used subutex to get clean.
So now take codeine for my back. I don't take much only 150mg of codeine a day. So a tiny amount, but I'm addicted to it!

Realised this when I didn't have codeine till evening I had a runny nose, felt rough then had codeine and very quickly it all went away! Just like what happened with stronger opiates.... Was a bit surprised if I'm honest.

Thing is I'm prescribed straight 30mg codeine and also take OTC co co and brufen and codeine.... So I'm not worried as my GP is more than happy with prescribing codeine, I just take OTC to spread my script a bit further.

Things its an opiate so it will still have WD and putting your nose up at it is pointless and a bit naive if I'm honest.

I think 12mg suboxone seems a bit high for a codeine addiction,
 
Wcote I started just like you.

I was on 8 mg. i had cravings, felt empty until I had increase to 12 mg.
12mg holds me n to the poster above believe me it is a lot psychological as well as physical.
 
For a Codeine addiction I don't think Buprenorphine should be used at all!
It's like giving someone Fentanyl for a paper-cut on their finger in my eyes. I could be very wrong (I usually am) but I think tapering is the way to go.

I'm also prescribed pure 30mg Codeine tablets for musculoskeletal pain and take 150mg 3 x a day.
I take Ibuprofen or Aspirin most of the time and have some outdated Capsaicin cream. But recently I've been given some Piroxicam gel which - when I wake up with my leg(s) seized stiff in excruciating pain - is working wonders :)
So when I got that I thought I could start tapering my Codeine again.

The thing is that I've just been sent another ATOS "Limited Capability for Work Questionnaire".
And this seems to happen every fucking time that my GP and I are getting ready to taper. So the stress that I know this, and also the appeal that will predictably happen when they think I'm fit for work causes, increases my pain and I've got to stay on the same fucking dose until it's done with and the cycle will probably repeat :X

Sorry, this was a bit of a rant. But the main message was that you should keep on Codeine and taper. Even get down to using 8/500mg Co-Codamol and then take the leap of Codeine absence.

I hope you all manage to get off it :)~<3
 
Some GPs will follow the view that if you have an opiate addiction then you need to be put onto a meth or subutex prescription to get clean....... Weird I know. Even for codeine.

Was going to come off codeine myself, but then found other pain killers had much worse side affects.

So I'm just going to stick with it.
 
Oh god here we go AGAIN! I asked for no judgement n I asked for like minded people. I know the general consensis re bup but as I have been on it for 7 months there is no point saying that to me. As I have already stated that no one knows my story. I did not just take a few extra pills. I tried cr/ taper many time was suicidal etc n I have a small child to attend to.

I am not suggesting that others with codeine addictions take the route I have (though a lot have, know this from a codeine support site n it helped them). Besides why should people on heroin/oxy only have the ight to alternative script. People with codrine/DHC/hydrocodone struggle too but we 're made to feel like complete wimps n I find it EXTREMELY offensive as I went through hell due to my addiction. Financially I went from £4,600 saving to £,000 in debt, I almost lost my family, my mental health has suffered, almost thrown off my masters.

I did not decide on a whim to go on suboxone it was carefully thought out n 8mg was not enough for me so I'm on 12 mg. i'm so annoyed with the general consensus that if you're a heroin/oxy addict your suffering n it's terribly hard addiction but rember codeine addicts only know codeine n it is extremely addictive n strong if you've not had anything else. People who have taken stronger drugs n come up with stuff like "you shouldn't be on bupe/suboxone if you've only got a codeine addiction."

Yes I get all that about different strengths but addiction is mostly psychologically n having the suboxone helps while we work through our issues similar to H/oxy addict has to do. We do not become "addicted" to suboxone, our bodies become dependent on it - so when it's time to go through the withdrawals ( and yes I'm aware they are difficult) I will not be longing for the sub like I did codeine as the *relationship* is not there, if that makes sense - same time the memory is codeine is going more distant.

That's my explanation although I do not see why I should HAVE to keep defending/ explaining/ justifying myself to people. People on H/oxy etc do not have to explain why they choose a particular path of recover so neither should we.

Evey xxxx
 
I'm not judging you.

If subutex is working for you then great!

I'm not attacking you, just myself found it easier years ago to detox using codeine.
 
Im sorry wcote. Some people are attacking me on another section so when I first read your post I snapped. It's not your fault n I shouldn't have snapped at you as we all have the right to our opinions.

Evey
 
No worries!

Yeah as I said codeine addiction is serious, to not judge as a minor addiction is naive.


I know codeine can be laughed at, but I have a friend I give him 60mg of codeine and he is baked!

Its easy to forget its converted into morphine, and 60mg is 6mg of oral morphinr which for an opiate naive person is a lot!

In hospital people can come in with serious injuries and get 2-4 mg of IV morphine and it sorts them out.... That's only equivalent to 80-100mg of codeine.

My point being yes to and oxy and heroin user codeine is weak, but if your tolerance is to codeine then it is still a serious addiction.
 
maybe I'm just lucky with morphine and codeine, I've been taking it everyday for 18 Months and don't think I've any real dependence.

My tolerance to Codeine has risen and I regularly take over 200mgs, I've always kept my total daily intake down and only ever use SR morphine but I don't find opiates all that alluring.
 
I did like the IV thing I had after my last op, you just pressed a green button and got another hit, morphine was a totally different experience IV compared to oral.
 
Eveleivibe said:
Some people are attacking me on another section so when I first read your post I snapped......

Evey
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I'm sorry Evey if it felt like I was having a go at you or being judgemental of the way you're going about your treatment <3
It was purely just a personal opinion - The main thing is if it works for you then that's that :) <3~:)~<3 Love and Luck to you honey
 
Does oxyCodone count ?

Oxycodone's chemical name is derived from codeine. The chemical structures are very similar, differing only in that
Oxycodone has a hydroxyl group at carbon-14 (codeine has just a hydrogen in its place)
Oxycodone has a 7,8-dihydro feature. Codeine has a double bond between those two carbons; and
Oxycodone has a carbonyl group (as in ketones) in place of the hydroxyl group of codeine.
It is also similar to hydrocodone, differing only in that it has a hydroxyl group at carbon-14.[7]
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tink it is 13 times more potent not sure though

I has that adiction
 
^ yeah, you nailed that 100% bupe is simply inappropriate to replace codeine; bupe is a far, far more potent opiate, with a far, far lengthier half life.

IMHO using bupe to manage a codeine habit is like bringing a rocket launcher to a fist fight: you won't have a codeine habit, but you're gonna change your entire landscape.

Duration of codeine detox: 5 days on average. Duration of bupe detox: 2-3 months on average. Trust me, nobody needs that kind of disparity in their life.

Edit: sorry, jumped in right at the end there, and was responding to Monstanoodles post on page 1.
 
Hey!!! So glad to hear from someone else. It's a lonely world.

I've been addicted to codeine for about 8 years. I'm a hyperactive metaboliser, 350mg codeine gets me a lot further than 80mg of oxy. I had the opportunity to swap but it turned out being uneconomical. That said, my tolerance is fucked, I've tapered down to about 100mg a day. I've been clean a few weeks here and there over the years, cold turkey due to being away from pharmacies or not having any money/shit to sell... I relapsed every time. I never get high really , even if i take 800+mg (yes, there is some benefit in going to this high a dose. morphine is not the only active metabolite of codeine). I get a bit of a buzz, but its faint compared to how it used to be. (would nod off 150mg)

At my worst I was taking 800mg 2-3 times a day, I've spent just about every cent I've earnt in the past time on codeine, which amounts to about $15000 a year in the later yaers (Yes.. kept my job.).. Not to mention sold countless valuable things for pennies on the dollar, stole, cheated, etc.

I haven't tried rehab or any prescribed meds to quit. I've had success using dextroamphetamine to harshly taper off codeine. My brain seems to attribute WD symptoms to the stimulant side effects .. and obviously I'm occupied. That was the worst part i found being sober.. time dragging on and on and on. It is somewhat conceivable that I'm just switching one addiction for another, but I feel like about a year ago something 'clicked' - I'm not trying to get high anymore, I'm just trying to avoid WDs/sobriety.. Also I was exposed to stimulants a long time before I met codeine , I think if I were going to have a problem with such things, it would've happened when I was (subconsciously) searching for an addiction and discovering such things. I can't recommend this course of action, but it's helped me greatly. I'm almost at the point now where I feel like I could just drop the codeine altogether. I regularly go 36+hrs instead of 24hrs without a dose, WDs aren't too bad. Almost there.

Message me if you'd like
 
Hi, it' is pretty dead tonight.

Yeah, I was on dihydrocodeine myself, starting at 60 mgs per day, and skyrocketing to crazy large amounts within a few years. Dhc could only be obtained on the street back then, and was low demand, so prices weren't too high. (In the UK H drought, anything opiate based was a high-value item), so even my heaviest usage didn't work out too expensive, but I still spent every single penny I earned on the shit. I did progress to H in the end, so I'm pretty impressed you stayed with codeine through your whole use. When you're using massive doses and barely getting high, that's the fucking pits for any addict -it's a trap, cos your shackled to something you don't even enjoy anymore.

I have tried using stimulants for opiate WD, but it left me feeling worse than ever. I have a lo pain tolerance, which is why I have never been able to ride out a cold turkey detox. So it's great you've gone 36+ hours without a dose. I could never have reached that far; I'm mean that's seriously impressive to me. Good thing about codeine is the duration of detox. The drugs so short-lasting you really don't feel like shit for too long
 
yeah , it's definitely seemed like if you can make it through 3 nights cold turkey, the morning of the 4th day you start to feel a little better (still horrible, but better than the night before). No help staying clean though haha.. the cleaner you get, the more tempting it is to try and get 'proper' high again.

I've been lucky enough not to come across heroin, or any other suitable replacement. I would have been on it for sure if I had, without a doubt. Shit if I came across it today I'd be on it straight away, just because of the chance of getting properly high for the first time in so long.
I've had some close encounters, lived with an ex addict for a while (who thankfully stayed clean), but its never been a realistic option to me. Once I got offered a bulk buy of stolen morphine.. I didnt buy it because it was a one-time deal and I didn't have the funds. While I had the option to get on oxy and that could've overcome the ceiling(ish) effect of codeine doses, it only would've been able to support my early years addiction, theres no way I could get enough to keep up with the later years. I've never come across it on the black market except for friends who would get a box given to them after surgery and not use them. No endless supply for sure... Things are pretty locked tight here in australia in terms of prescription opiates, at least in my experience. I just hope I remain lucky enough to never come in contact with it.
 
brimz said:
Does oxyCodone count ?



tink it is 13 times more potent not sure though

I has that adiction
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I have 17 year Methafdone addiction , 20 year Heroin , 20 year Benzo every day for 20 yeatrs n now i on Oxycodone basiclly codeine but a sched 1 cd that is only prescribed to folk dieing or in the highest pain category



So be happy thAT YOU JUSYT ADDICTED TO FUKIN CODEINE .

eVER HEARD ME MOAN ABOUT IT NO ;)

hAVING SEX LATER THAT WILL TAKE MY MIND OFF things give it a go does wonders .<3
 
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