The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread (3rd edition)

[Anon610]

I would say in context of NBOMe taking LSD a "few times" does not equal to being experienced. NBOMe isn't LSD. Be careful with this substance, especially nasally: IT WILL exceed your expectations. For better or for worse. My LSD experience is perhaps a few hundred times "a few" and that's ignoring the other substances: I prefer phenethylamines to tryptamines. Yet i was in utter disbelief when i did 1mg(nasally) for the first time.

Trust me, with this stuff intensity is on another level compared to LSD: It might not be as deep. But it'll punch you in the face harder. And it won't use fists, no, it uses a rusty AK47 as a blunt weapon.

A "regular" dose of this is comparable to a heroic dose of LSD i'd say. Specifically, the open-eye visuals and synesthesia(seeing sounds, tasting color) are immense. As is the stimulation/euphoria(which can be too much to many.) So start with one cap.

I hate being the negative nancy in this thread but everything warrants caution when it comes to 25I-NBOMe. It irks me that it's now considered the new "all the other kids do it" drug like DXM and Salvia. Others consider it "cheap-ass' version of LSD" or a simple toy(i'm looking at you, you dirty Shroom purist hippies.)

It's all false. It's infinitely more dangerous than DXM or Salvia to abuse. And it's more intensive of a psychedelic than LSD even if many people like to blindly proclaim that all research chemicals are jokes. Stereotypes are never good, especially not here. Be careful.

While my first time easily ranks among the best times i've ever had... I am extremely hesitant to ever use the substance again due to once taking too much(just 2mg mind you.)

Also, FYI, nasally the come-up is not very pleasant for a first timer. First of all it hits really fast, faster the more you take. In 10-15 minutes you'll be essentially fully engaged(perhaps even +++) yet it'll still keep rising for an hour total. It's surreal how fast and hard it hits. Also if alcohol is used as the solvent it's quite painful.

Interesting. I'll have to give it another try in about a week and a half. I consumed 1800ug in increments over the course of 3 hours. Irresponsible of me yes, but definitely was weird how it went from I barely feel anything to full blow tripping. I can't wait to try 900ug with zero tolerance on my gums all at once. Curious, could I put the blotter tab in a small amount of vodka and insufflatee it?

 

[bloodshed344]

Interesting. I'll have to give it another try in about a week and a half. I consumed 1800ug in increments over the course of 3 hours. Irresponsible of me yes, but definitely was weird how it went from I barely feel anything to full blow tripping. I can't wait to try 900ug with zero tolerance on my gums all at once. Curious, could I put the blotter tab in a small amount of vodka and insufflatee it?

Why not put it in water? I guess if you're not sure if its freebase or not. If you have to use vodka I'd say fuck it. Sounds like a painful start to a trip (AKA instant bad vibes, like the pain of starting off a trip with snorted 2c's.)

 

[bigbadwolf]

yea we took it on friday night and it was very intense. visuals were pretty wild. Wasnt expecting as much. My mate ended up freaking out and ringing his mum to pick him up but she didnt mind so it was all well that ends well. The come up is especially intense. Full body tingling and then some mild visuals but within 15-20 mins eb=veryting is jumping out at you and completing the smallest task is extremely difficult. I would probably say its the best experience ive had on drugs and look forward to doing it again :D

Thanks for all your advice on the matter aswell cheers guys

 

[pandahaze]

What Darkstorn said pretty much summed everything up. Even with 1.2 mg I was in another world, literally. I can't imagine going above it. I haven't tried LSD yet, but I'm really annoyed by how people see it like shitty, fake LSD or some dumb expression just because they can't handle it. I can agree that it lacks LSD natural feeling. But it's obviously more psychedelic than LSD. You should just get to know it better and understand the mechanics of the trip, finding your sweet spot etc.

 

[Axed]

Which NBOMe is best for a music fest in your opinion?

 

[Sepher]

Curious, could I put the blotter tab in a small amount of vodka and insufflatee it?

Absolutely, yes. It's how I dose whether it's powder or blotters. 0.2-0.3ml plain vodka should be plenty to wash out a couple of blotters, just squirt on and mash about for a coupla minutes, suck up into a syringe then nasal spray. It's not especially pleasant snorting vodka but it's bearable, soon passes, very effective. Don't use much solution, not needed, not a good idea snorting more than you have to.

Be warned: NBOMes hit hard and fast nasal dosing like this. With blotters it takes me over an hour to really start getting desired effects, nasal ROA you will be tripping inside ten minutes getting VERY visual fast, you'll be peaking in about an hour ( peak takes nearer three hours for me with blotters. ) Body load is noticeably increased, though passes away faster so swings and roundabouts. Take a smaller dose than you've had of blotters to be on the 'safe' side. Redosing also works with this ROA, much better than trying to redose blotters which ain't very effective.

 

[Anon610]

What Darkstorn said pretty much summed everything up. Even with 1.2 mg I was in another world, literally. I can't imagine going above it. I haven't tried LSD yet, but I'm really annoyed by how people see it like shitty, fake LSD or some dumb expression just because they can't handle it. I can agree that it lacks LSD natural feeling. But it's obviously more psychedelic than LSD. You should just get to know it better and understand the mechanics of the trip, finding your sweet spot etc.

I think this sums it up. Finding your individual sweet spot.
First try I used about 1800ug within the first 2 hours. Thinking it wasn't going to work. 5 hours later I finally peak and it was awesome. Though I don't understand how some people have issues with vasoconstriction. In my first day I wasn't very smart and within 24 hours consumed 2700ug of 25I-NBOMe. Unfortunately I hate the tolerance issue this compound has. Any effect with say 2C-E? I want something I can do more than once every 7 days. haha, Escaline looks interesting.
Seems to be the next thing on my hit list.

 

[Anon610]

Also anyone notice a cross-tolerance between 25I-NBOMe and DXM?
I used DXM the day after 25i definitely not as effective. Probably isn't good for my brain, but I work all week so I'll have a whole week to be sober. I feel great.

 

[bloodshed344]

What Darkstorn said pretty much summed everything up. Even with 1.2 mg I was in another world, literally. I can't imagine going above it. I haven't tried LSD yet, but I'm really annoyed by how people see it like shitty, fake LSD or some dumb expression just because they can't handle it. I can agree that it lacks LSD natural feeling. But it's obviously more psychedelic than LSD. You should just get to know it better and understand the mechanics of the trip, finding your sweet spot etc.

How could you say it's more psychedelic than LSD without having tried it? 1.2 mg LSD would floor almost ANYONE (except for someone with an NBOME-fucked tolerance, lol)
I haven't tried LSD either btw.

 

[dan k]

How could you say it's more psychedelic than LSD without having tried it? 1.2 mg LSD would floor almost ANYONE (except for someone with an NBOME-fucked tolerance, lol)
I haven't tried LSD either btw.

I will confirm 1mg lsd blows 1mgnbome out of the water... that's a ten strip...

1mg nbome is more comparable to 300-500ug lsd

 

[Anon610]

Absolutely, yes. It's how I dose whether it's powder or blotters. 0.2-0.3ml plain vodka should be plenty to wash out a couple of blotters, just squirt on and mash about for a coupla minutes, suck up into a syringe then nasal spray. It's not especially pleasant snorting vodka but it's bearable, soon passes, very effective. Don't use much solution, not needed, not a good idea snorting more than you have to.

Be warned: NBOMes hit hard and fast nasal dosing like this. With blotters it takes me over an hour to really start getting desired effects, nasal ROA you will be tripping inside ten minutes getting VERY visual fast, you'll be peaking in about an hour ( peak takes nearer three hours for me with blotters. ) Body load is noticeably increased, though passes away faster so swings and roundabouts. Take a smaller dose than you've had of blotters to be on the 'safe' side. Redosing also works with this ROA, much better than trying to redose blotters which ain't very effective.

Alright, thanks. Definetely going to give it a shot. The 900ug blotters just seemed slow, and not as 'powerful' as I wanted it to be. So next weekend I'm probably going to dissolve 900ug of 25i-NBOMe in 0.3ml of vodka. I can tolerate snorting vodka.

 

[doomsdayguy]

What Darkstorn said pretty much summed everything up. Even with 1.2 mg I was in another world, literally. I can't imagine going above it. I haven't tried LSD yet, but I'm really annoyed by how people see it like shitty, fake LSD or some dumb expression just because they can't handle it. I can agree that it lacks LSD natural feeling. But it's obviously more psychedelic than LSD. You should just get to know it better and understand the mechanics of the trip, finding your sweet spot etc.

Perhaps you should try actual LSD. 25i is great, but it is 100% visual and 0% introspective. People don't say that because they "can't handle it." Most people legitimately enjoy the vast introspection that classical psychedelics give us and aren't here "for the visuals."

You can agree it lacks LSD natural feeling... having not tried LSD? What the fuck dude?

I'm really annoyed by people who cannot form a logical argument for something. Keep calling the kettle black, pot.

---snip---

And now, a story.

My local high school has seen a massive influx of kids trying psychedelics. They all think they're taking LSD.

They're all actually taking nbomes of some sort. I would guess it's 25C because the visuals don't seem to be as overwhelming (from talking to those that have had it), or they could be taking a smaller dose. The tabs are very clearly complexed, and the dealer plays it off as "part of the laying process." It's just sick that this guy is passing this stuff off as acid. One girl has had acid ONCE (from a different source) and thinks that the nbome is just "more powerful LSD"

It truly makes me sad. I recently tripped with a girl who had only tried the nbome, and she wasn't ready for the acid mindfuck at ALL. The entire gentle come up she kept saying "I'm not tripping that hard." But 2 hours later she was dead silent

I hope that these RCs aren't ruining the psychedelic experience for these kids. nbomes leave an empty trip with much to be desired.

 

[pandahaze]

Don't give me the what the fuck dude, do I have to try it to know that it feels natural than NBOME? I mean everybody say it, it's a fact which everybody agree on. I meant it that way. What bugs me is that people compare it with LSD, whining constantly that it lacks that natural feeling, spirituality etc. LSD is LSD, nbome is nbome. It's not cheap LSD or fake LSD. I really wanna try it and I'm sure I'll not compare it with nbome after I experience it.

 

[Anon610]

Weird getting 25I-NBOMe flashbacks on high doses of DXM. 3 days after.

 

[catching fish]

Noob question. I've got a couple of 1200 ug tabs but that seems like a massive dose for a first time.

Would cutting a tab in half and trying that out be a wise choice? I'm fully aware it won't be evenly distributed on the tab but I'm no rocket science.

Is 600 ug unreasonable for a first time? Obviously there is no true answer to these questions but just thought I would ask some experienced users. What sort of dose range does it get truly dangerous. I'm no psychonaut but I have a reasonable history with different psychadelics but I'm
new to research chemicals


Edit:
Is there much of a difference between 25i-NBOMe and 25c-NBOMe in terms of the dangers? I know 25i can cause some very serious health issues in some people. What about 25c- is it the same story? Less chance of adverse effects? More?

Thanks

 

[pandahaze]

600 ug is very reasonable for a start. I started with 1200, it was too crazy. Then tried half tab which was very pleasant. I think mines were evenly distributed, you can't know without trying.

 

[zouloum]

Perhaps you should try actual LSD. 25i is great, but it is 100% visual and 0% introspective. People don't say that because they "can't handle it." Most people legitimately enjoy the vast introspection that classical psychedelics give us and aren't here "for the visuals."

You can agree it lacks LSD natural feeling... having not tried LSD? What the fuck dude?

I'm really annoyed by people who cannot form a logical argument for something. Keep calling the kettle black, pot.

---snip---

And now, a story.

My local high school has seen a massive influx of kids trying psychedelics. They all think they're taking LSD.

They're all actually taking nbomes of some sort. I would guess it's 25C because the visuals don't seem to be as overwhelming (from talking to those that have had it), or they could be taking a smaller dose. The tabs are very clearly complexed, and the dealer plays it off as "part of the laying process." It's just sick that this guy is passing this stuff off as acid. One girl has had acid ONCE (from a different source) and thinks that the nbome is just "more powerful LSD"

It truly makes me sad. I recently tripped with a girl who had only tried the nbome, and she wasn't ready for the acid mindfuck at ALL. The entire gentle come up she kept saying "I'm not tripping that hard." But 2 hours later she was dead silent

I hope that these RCs aren't ruining the psychedelic experience for these kids. nbomes leave an empty trip with much to be desired.

Actually, I've had almost no visuals with 600ug of buccal 25i-NBOMe. The only visuals I had was a fov change. But I found it quite introspective. At one point I started to question what reality was and how we process it. Everyone reacts differently(to some extent) to a drug. 15mg of 2C-B gave me much more visuals than 25i even though I'd consider my 25i experience more intense in general.

 

[Darkstorn]

I will confirm 1mg lsd blows 1mgnbome out of the water... that's a ten strip...

1mg nbome is more comparable to 300-500ug lsd

ROA plays a big part yet people seem to ignore this aspect. I've never tried blotters so i can't say about them but judging from what people(incl. you) say about it: Blotters are extremely inefficient. In fact... I've never seen 25I-NBOMe in blotter form yet it's everywhere in small 3mg(way too high a dose) bottles.

And in that form it's scary as fuck. I hate comparing NBOMe to LSD because of how different the intensity is. LSD isn't supposed to be easy or fun specifically but compared to NBOMe i'd make that claim. You don't have to be as involved in the trip as with NBOMe: I find i can operate almost normally at doses exceeding 500mg of LSD if i focus. If i focus in NBOMe, i can think logically. But that won't get rid of the all-encompassing visuals and auditory hallucinations... And so it becomes worse. Logic dictates that the intensity of the effects is too high to ever return back to a normal state.

For this reason i compare it to DMT in intensity instead. Imagine being on a DMT trip yet feeling otherwise "sober" in the head(NBOMe is very weak in this department i find, apart from confusion and paranoia.) It's neither fun nor spiritual. That's how just 2mg feels to me. :/

Actually, I've had almost no visuals with 600ug of buccal 25i-NBOMe. The only visuals I had was a fov change. But I found it quite introspective. At one point I started to question what reality was and how we process it. Everyone reacts differently(to some extent) to a drug. 15mg of 2C-B gave me much more visuals than 25i even though I'd consider my 25i experience more intense in general.

You're right, people do seem to react differently. But not overly so: Most of my friends who did similar doses to myself agreed upon its intensity. I'd say the biggest culprit is in fact route of administration. To me 25I-NBOMe is by far one of the most visual substances i've tried.

/E: To sum it up, IMO NBOMe isn't particularly trippy; It'll take a lot of external stimuli to be able to actually go deep. By that i mean music, art etc. The entire experience is essentially driven by what you hear and see. LSD and other things... More psychedelic in the original meaning of the term definitely. But like i said earlier, NBOMe is like a dirty, rusty AK-47 used as a club. :D

 

[Anon610]

ROA plays a big part yet people seem to ignore this aspect. I've never tried blotters so i can't say about them but judging from what people(incl. you) say about it: Blotters are extremely inefficient. In fact... I've never seen 25I-NBOMe in blotter form yet it's everywhere in small 3mg(way too high a dose) bottles.

And in that form it's scary as fuck. I hate comparing NBOMe to LSD because of how different the intensity is. LSD isn't supposed to be easy or fun specifically but compared to NBOMe i'd make that claim. You don't have to be as involved in the trip as with NBOMe: I find i can operate almost normally at doses exceeding 500mg of LSD if i focus. If i focus in NBOMe, i can think logically. But that won't get rid of the all-encompassing visuals and auditory hallucinations... And so it becomes worse. Logic dictates that the intensity of the effects is too high to ever return back to a normal state.

For this reason i compare it to DMT in intensity instead. Imagine being on a DMT trip yet feeling otherwise "sober" in the head(NBOMe is very weak in this department i find, apart from confusion and paranoia.) It's neither fun nor spiritual. That's how just 2mg feels to me. :/



You're right, people do seem to react differently. But not overly so: Most of my friends who did similar doses to myself agreed upon its intensity. I'd say the biggest culprit is in fact route of administration. To me 25I-NBOMe is by far one of the most visual substances i've tried.

/E: To sum it up, IMO NBOMe isn't particularly trippy; It'll take a lot of external stimuli to be able to actually go deep. By that i mean music, art etc. The entire experience is essentially driven by what you hear and see. LSD and other things... More psychedelic in the original meaning of the term definitely. But like i said earlier, NBOMe is like a dirty, rusty AK-47 used as a club. :D

Dude a lot of people put 25I-NBOMe in blotters. I have 900ug tabs.
They're efficient if you put them under your gums. Under tongue doesn't work as well, and swallowing doesn't work.

 

[Darkstorn]

Dude a lot of people put 25I-NBOMe in blotters. I have 900ug tabs.

I wasn't discounting that. Just stating that i've never seen them. I've seen them available online. But i see them in the thousands(literally) on the street in bottles. Which is extremely dangerous and irresponsible especially seeing as one bottle is several doses and half the people taking it don't know this. Even i didn't, until i researched it after taking my first(1mg) dose. Turns out it was actually two quite decent doses. So, one of those bottles is 6 doses effectively. For experienced people.

They're efficient if you put them under your gums. Under tongue doesn't work as well, and swallowing doesn't work.

I didn't say they don't work. I'm saying an equal dose nasally works a lot harder. And faster. Hence, not as efficient.

/E:I'll make a proposition: When talking about NBOMe doses, ALWAYS take ROA into account. You can't just say "yeah 500ug is fine" if you don't know the ROA. It should be obvious but there's a pretty good reason why it goes ignored: Most people don't know it. The responsible thing is to make them know.