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The Big & Dandy bk-MDMA (Methylone) Thread - Redosed

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Hi Big and Dandy bk-mdma thread,

I'm probably going to try methylone for the first time this weekend, and I'm wondering if 200mg is roughly equipotent to 80-100mg MDMA "magically" /empathogenically, and also, if taking 100mg T+0.00 and another 100mg an hour later seems like a reasonable dosing plan?

I'm quite a small guy and am always careful with any new chemical.

I honestly find my sweet spot with MDMA is just under 100mg, 80-100, at 100 I can find myself floored (no tolerance, small guy, infrequent user, etc.)
 
If you are small, I wouldn't start with 200mg. Start with 50mg (I have never taken any, but plan to get some soon and have been doing lots of research on it), even though it's apparently 1/3rd as strong as MDMA.

You can re-dose all day for days with no ill effects as far as i'm aware, and there is no (or very little) bad comedown like MDMA, because it isn't as hard on your brain.

So anyway, if after an hour you're not feeling anything on 50mg, take some more, and so on. This stuff apparently lasts for about 3-4 hours aswell, so I don't think you'd need to re-dose after 1 hour (once you find your "sweet spot" anyway)

Did you read this? http://www.methylone.com/experiences/
It's what convinced me to try it for my social anxiety.

Based on that 1 guys experience of using it for 2 years, it seems to only cause problems when you take it very frequently and in larger and larger doses.
 
You can re-dose all day for days with no ill effects as far as i'm aware, and there is no (or very little) bad comedown like MDMA, because it isn't as hard on your brain.
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i wouldn't take that as a fact, to be honest.

and btw, there are people who don't get bad comedowns from MDMA.
 
Well of course, everybody is different, and with Methylone being not studied very much we can only go by anecdotal reports online, and that's what I've found out so I'm just sharing.

People that don't get bad comedowns from MDMA? I did it the other day and wanted to shoot myself the day after, if only I were so lucky :/
 
I have been using Methylone for more than 4 years now and thats because its one of my favourites.
Only for recreational use never been abusing it or taking it on a daily basis. I must say that anything under 150mg is underwhelming and will probaly dissapoint you.
My first experience with M1 was amazing i did 180mg and it hit me hard. Maybe because it also was one of my first times doing drugs.
Today when im dosing M1 i usually go for a 250mg dose. I know that its very easy to get the urge to redose on this one, but it will never be near as good as the first dose. So my advice is to spare it for another time.
 
Ophidian said:
I have been using Methylone for more than 4 years now and thats because its one of my favourites.
Only for recreational use never been abusing it or taking it on a daily basis. I must say that anything under 150mg is underwhelming and will probaly dissapoint you.
My first experience with M1 was amazing i did 180mg and it hit me hard. Maybe because it also was one of my first times doing drugs.
Today when im dosing M1 i usually go for a 250mg dose. I know that its very easy to get the urge to redose on this one, but it will never be near as good as the first dose. So my advice is to spare it for another time.
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I understand what you're saying about 150mg being underwhelming, but I'm in a unique situation where i'm not looking to "roll", I just want to have the confidence to be around other people, and shed my social anxiety, which is why i'm going to try low doses first and see if they actually help, or not. I don't want to go to university on moving in day while rolling, so I can experiment and find my own 'sweet spot' before then, hopefully, if it works as advertised.
 
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I understand what you're saying about 150mg being underwhelming, but I'm in a unique situation where i'm not looking to "roll", I just want to have the confidence to be around other people, and shed my social anxiety, which is why i'm going to try low doses first and see if they actually help, or not. I don't want to go to university on moving in day while rolling, so I can experiment and find my own 'sweet spot' before then, hopefully, if it works as advertised.
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Yeah my post was more an aswer to "infectedmushroom" and the thread genereally.
In your situation i think you are on the right track with the low doses. But i dont know if its a solution, give us some feedback anyway.
 
Ophidian - thank you for your anecdote, that gives me a better idea.

I've read the focus of M1 trips isn't so much on the empathogenic qualities although they are present, and is still enlightening / introspective to some degree. Can anyone comment as to the "quality" of methylones magic/seretonergic effect?

Being 1/3 as potent as MDMA i'd assume 200mg is roughly like 70mg MDMA in this regard? That being the case, even though i'm small I can still happily handle 100mg-200mg of MDMA (forget my last comment about it,) so would 200mg at once be an alright dose?
 
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infectedmushroom said:
Being 1/3 as potent as MDMA i'd assume 200mg is roughly like 70mg MDMA in this regard? That being the case, even though i'm small I can still happily handle 100mg-200mg of MDMA (forget my last comment about it,) so would 200mg at once be an alright dose?
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here's an excerpt from the wikipedia page on Methylone:

Methylone acts as a mixed reuptake inhibitor/releasing agent of serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine.[3][10] In comparison to MDMA, it has approximately 3x lower affinity for the serotonin transporter, while its affinity for the norepinephrine and dopamine transporters is similar

i guess the stimulant (side-)effects will be stronger at higher dose. i'm not sure, have you done it before? because it is never a good idea to start high with a new compound, even if you are experienced with similar drugs (in this case MDMA).
 
No, this weekend will hopefully be my first experimentation.

I will likely start at 100mg and redose within 2 hours if needed.

Erowid claims that individual reactions to dosage vary considerably, i'm gonna play it safe.
 
Methylone changed my life. I have used it every couple months over the last year and everytime it is great. It really helps me with my problems that I deal with in life.

The main reason it changed my life is because it cured my OCD. It did it the first time I took it along with nitrous. The next morning I woke up and all my OCD tendencies were gone. Just like that. It's been over a year and they havent returned and I am so grateful. Another way it has helped me is by reducing my social anxiety. It is the best drug I have ever taken and I am so glad I discovered it.
 
go with 150 Methylone is great but to feel the peak effects a good size dose is req. Personally I will do a half g or more in a night on occasion. Dont do that But try 150 to 200 You will love it. Be safe meanwhile Dont drive or be around crazy shit eat it and get floored hanging out with a special someone or some good buddies.
 
methylone is a solid drug but I've noticed the peak isn't as long as an mdma peak. Also, it is being sold as molly almost everywhere which is pretty annoying, I think it needs to have its own nickname, or maybe it does and I just don't know about it. A pro to it is a better, easier comedown than mdma, imo.
 
The real non-scientific name of methylone is bk-MDMA. Methylone could, in fact, be construed as the nickname of this compound.
 
absolutely love and miss methylone. my favorite dose was 180-220mg. blissful drug.
 
How long would one need to go off effexor ( venlafaxine ) before dosing methylone and it to have a close to full effect? I've read that effexor has a very short half life (a few hours) so would 1 day off it be enough? I am only on 100mg daily and have been alternating 50mg every second day in hope to jump off soon (I don't need it anymore) but would also like to try methylone again, would missing a dose for a single day be long enough to get close to full effects?

Thanks.
 
I'm sorry but this is a very bad idea since the Venlafaxine has built up in your system and will not be fully eliminated by simply quitting one day. So it would be really dangerous to do bk-MDMA. From the Venlafaxine wiki-entry:

The development of a potentially life-threatening serotonin syndrome (also more recently classified as "serotonin toxicity")[38] may occur with venlafaxine treatment, particularly with concomitant use of serotonergic drugs, including but not limited to SSRI and SNRIs, many hallucinogens such as tryptamines and phenethylamines (LSD/LSA, DMT, MDMA, MDPV, mescaline for example), dextromethorphan (DXM)/dextrorphan (DXO), tramadol, tapentadol, meperidine/pethidine and triptans and with drugs that impair metabolism of serotonin (including MAOIs).
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If you don't need the medication anymore work out a taper plan with the doctor. Good luck with that.
 
theblueEagle said:
methylone is a solid drug but I've noticed the peak isn't as long as an mdma peak. Also, it is being sold as molly almost everywhere which is pretty annoying, I think it needs to have its own nickname, or maybe it does and I just don't know about it. A pro to it is a better, easier comedown than mdma, imo.
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M1 is used around here. Although I'm not a fan of methylone at all, give me a few dutch e's instead anyday!
 
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