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Benzo Discussion Vol. 3 (I think? Last night's a blur..)

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Thanks Effie, I'm coming off this time one way or another it's going to be staying off or not finding a replacement chemical habit that's going to be the tricky bit I think. My tolerance at the moment is stupid, Benzos are not a good choice for me at all, the stupidly quick tolerance and the need to taper I'm done with them....almost. I'd CT today of it was a practical option, but it isn't so its back down the ladder I guess, all seems to be going well at the moment I'm ahead of schedule, I think I could have dropped even harder but I'd rather be careful and get the job done than rush it and end up making things worse.
 
I've got about 60 mg (diazepam) left from a 112mg script i got on the 12th - ive been taking about 20-25 mg per day since then.

I NEED this to last me til like the 24th/25th.

Anybody got a suggestion on how i should dose witha downward titration til then? I'm supposed to be on 8 mg per day, but ive been putting myself thru heroin withdrawal since last weekend & have been taking codeine, loperamide & diazepam to keep me smooth in the meantime. Damn did i want a shot yesterday though.

So far today ive had 200mg of codeine & 2 of diazepam & plan on taking a maximum of 4/5 mg more today, after that i'm not sure how i'll schedule my dosing. I've been coming off them slowly for months & months now; down from 30 + mg per day & get a 2 mg reduction every two weeks. My doctor has been really good about it.
 
Genuine krka apaurin, are they gonna be worth nearly twice the price I pay for cipla zepose 10's?

bear in mind me and the missi only use 5 a week or so, so it's not like the price thing is that much of an issue, I've just heard they're better, but not sure they're gona be nearly twice as good.

Anyone tried both? atm23? ;)
 
Apaurins are about the best blues I've had, really clean feeling. Not had the other ones so can't comment there.
 
I'm getting a much undeserved reputation ;), I've always had to be pretty straight up with my doctors so I'm down on record as having abused drugs, although I'm fairly certain the addiction center didn't record my diaz issues. But none the less they know I have an addiction or habit forming issue, whatever you want to call it.

I have have been prescribed Diaz and other benzos in the past but never been fortunate enough to have a repeat script or the chance to do a back to back test, it would be pretty subjective anyhow as I'd more than likely just neck the lot.

Quality grey market stuff like Zepose 10's I reckon are probably about 8mgs, oddly my experience with PK imports are that the blister packed stuff is more likely to be rubbish and good old stars and Benzopine whilst not pretty are pretty consistent but more like 5-6mgs on the 10's but oddly the 5 's always seem a bit stronger.

Diaz is Diaz so IMO so its all down to price and ease of purchase, but if what were supposed to be 10's but only contained 5mgs that would be fine if the price was right and they were consistent.

When ever I've been offered Actavis the price has been stupid, I guess if your trading your scripts for other things then it might be different, but I've about as much chance of getting a diaz script as Mr Blunts has of joining the Aleister Crowley appreciation society (sorry MSB best I could come up with at short notice ;))

The best one I've had were those original MSJ's but they were purely recreational not and in consistently dosed, no good for daily use but great if you wanted to get totally wasted :D
 
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Quality grey market stuff like Zepose 10's I reckon are probably about 8mgs
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cool, in that case I think I'll stick with the zepose, which work out about 30p a tab, than go for the Apaurin which will cost me about 55p a tab...

though what rockstar says is interesting, the Apaurin were the "cleanest" diaz he's done.

I am of the diaz is diaz school of thought.....so imagined that an 8mg zepose-10 would be the same as a 10mg Apaurin (just 20% lower dosed), but again , atm, Sam, any other benzo afficionados cast any light on this..?

I've had me fair share of shit (chalk/phenax/unidentifiable compound) benzos, and am happpy enough with the Zepose, but have heard so many people banging on about Apaurins I wondered if they'd be worth the large price differential....

Probably not i think.
 
Ismene can deal with all questions about purity ;)

I'm not even going there its far too subjective especially when you've just pad 2X the normal going rate. You'll never get acces to the kind of stuff Rockstar canobtain, it's all too orangey for crows;)
 
Thanks, will pass up on the "opportunity" to buy the Apaurins for twice the price i think, I'm happy enough with the Zepose for our purposes.

Thanks for your help :D
 
can anyone give me info on small pale blue pills with a breakline and msj on the other side? these any good? i heard they are inconsistant.
 
atm23 say what you want but anyone will tell you EU benzos are nearly always better than any Asian ones are mate. Ask effie she knows, I would imagine Sam will tell you much about the same. I would not pay twice the price for them though, used to get 50 Apaurin for £25 which was pretty shithot.

Reichter 10's are good too up there with Apaurins. With the Asian ones the HK 10's or the 5mg stars are probably about the pick of them.

It's clearly not worth paying twice the price but they are cleaner feeling. I've been offered a very good price on msj's which are not bad, and at the price definately a bargain.

The likes of roche, daz etc from pakistan have been tested several times to contain arsnic, mephedrone even once. Why anyone would do that I don't know but those things are full of crap. Same as you get some like the WW's, stadas etc that are probably more like 5mg.

But anyway moral of the story is that EU benzos are the best.
 
Just had 4 HK blues.

They feel so clean. As good as anything I've had off a doctor. And the price is v good.
Prob around 7.5mg at a guess.

Is it just me, or does anyone else experience serious depression the day after taking benzos?
 
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Just had 4 HK blues.

They feel so clean. As good as anything I've had off a doctor. And the price is v good.
Prob around 7.5mg at a guess.

Is it just me, or does anyone else experience serious depression the day after taking benzos?
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if you read the list of side effects on The leaflet you will find this is one of them potentially .
I found it can be a few days after when i used to take binges .
I just take as scripted most of the time now.

Oh yeah The best Benzos are the legit ones btw.
 
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can anyone give me info on small pale blue pills with a breakline and msj on the other side? these any good? i heard they are inconsistant.
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Yeah, they're inconsistent alright, but they've tested at 8mg - 30mg, so you're far more likely to get a pill that's dosed over than one that's dosed under. Hence the fact they're one of my favourite black market brands.

As for the EU vs. Asia debate, I have to say I'm with Rockstar on EU benzos being far more reliable, though that isn't to say there aren't a lot of perfectly good Asian meds out there because there are.
 
^ Is that the wee tiny msj's? I thought they were good when I had them, did seem a bit inconsistant but had no idea they were over the 10mg in some cases! I ate about 5 of them through out the day/night at work one weekend, had a couple pints with everyone when we'd finnished and I was absolutely fucked when I got home.

Concidering the price I'm currently being offered them at I think I will be snapping up a few. Those HK's are really clean cornish I agree, probably the best of the Asian ones.
 
Yeah, the tiny little things. Wouldn't think it would you?

They're usually sold at a pretty good price too, which makes them all the more appealing, but I definitely don't recommend drinking with them. The difference between having drunk eight pints and taken 30mg diaz and having drunk eight pints and taken up to three times that amount is pretty stark. Especially if your tolerance is fairly low. Probably best to keep MSJs aside for bedtime really.

HKs are another I've never had a problem with. Just because they're sourced in countries with lax controls on drugs doesn't always mean an absence of production values, though unfortunately it often works out that way.
 
Has anyone tried Stadas? Loads of them locally aswell, pretty cheap. I've had them once and thought they were good but I pigged out abit and ate about 20 of them in 3-4 days. Hard to say because of this but it's a choice of them or the msj's tomorrow.
 
Proper Stadas are pretty highly regarded by all accounts. Never had them myself though.

The ones doing the rounds now are mostly knock-offs (they say 'D10', whereas a proper German Stada has 'F10') but I'm not all that sure about quality. People seem to be buying them though.

Here's a genuine Stada for reference:
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That's them there aye. I'm not sure these say anything on the back, can't honestly remember (wonder why?!) but they must have been decent lol. Think I'll go for them tomorrow purely cos the guy drops off. Sunday should be a bit less savage this week!
 
hk's are by far my fave diaz, so consistant, better then anything else ive tried inc uk prescription ones
 
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