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The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread

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If 2C-I is the same as 25I it will have to be the HCL for it work like that. If it isn't HCL you will have to buy HPBCD and mix them. I don't think there water soluble enless there HCL. I smoked a blotter of 500ucg earlier as the short but decent trip sounded good. THe blotter didn't burn that well so i probably wasted a lot but whatever, i felt some effects and could see what the threshold was all about. Next time I think I will dose 1mg Buccally to get its full potential. Mixed it with some synth cannabinoids, nice body euphoria with the 25I.
 
kishka, i beleive someone in this thread mentions that blotter is best placed in the upper gum but the liquid solutions are best administered under the tongue. i can't comment from experience except to say that blotter to the upper lip definitely works.

IamMe90 said:
I have to chime in that I think buccal administration is far superior to nasal admin. Nasal kind of defeats the point of 25i, which is that it's a nonanxiogenic, clean trip - when you nasally administer it, the bodyload is increased and the jarring come up can be anxiety producing. Buccal can be just as visual as nasal when dosed high enough but the trip is more positive and less nauseating. Definitely go with buccal my 2cents
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thanks for that. I have been wondering about this but haven't had time to try 25i buccally.
i tried 25d nasally for the first time last weekend and did not like it as much as when i tried the blotter. both experiences at ~800 ug.
also on this note: 1 mg 25C in one buccal dose proved to be quite anxiogenic... so i'm interested to experiment further.
 
Kishka said:
Since I can't dose on blotters (because I don't know how to do it). If I want to take a drop of liquid (2C-I-NBOMe) in buccal ? I just need to hold the drop of liquid in my mouth ?
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It's really not hard at all to make your own blotters and I find this method of administration much easier for buccal admin. Just buy some 140lb water color paper from an art store, cut out some squares and use your measurement tool to lay it on the paper. But yes, if this is somehow not possible, you can hold the solution under the tongue or between the cheeks by itself.
 
twelvesevndi said:
kishka, i beleive someone in this thread mentions that blotter is best placed in the upper gum but the liquid solutions are best administered under the tongue. i can't comment from experience except to say that blotter to the upper lip definitely works.
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I'm sure that either way works, but can you find where you read this in the thread. I believe I remember reading tregar saying that under the tongue is the way to go. Judging from the massive lingual and sublingual veins and their many branches visble on the ventral aspect of the tongue, I would say sublingual is better. At least in terms of rate of absorption. Placement here could perhaps increase salivation, and cause one to swallow some portion of unabsorbed 25I.

Like I said though, both would work.
 
IamMe90 said:
It's really not hard at all to make your own blotters and I find this method of administration much easier for buccal admin. Just buy some 140lb water color paper from an art store, cut out some squares and use your measurement tool to lay it on the paper. But yes, if this is somehow not possible, you can hold the solution under the tongue or between the cheeks by itself.
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Only lay one dose at a time if you're going this route. Unless you know exactly how to lay blotter laying multiple doses is a recipe for disaster with this compound.

Hopefully no one is foolish enough to explain to the unwashed masses how to correctly lay 50 sheets or similar. We don't need this stuff ending up on blotter sold as lsd. There are enough people doing that sort of thing already. I hope I'm not coming across as elitist because I want everyone to have access to the chemicals they want and the knowledge to take them safely.

There is no need for blotter. Evaporate a known dose on glass, scrap and place under your tongue. It's that simple.

When converting freebase to the hcl salt just add hcl a drop at a time until everything goes into solution. Allow plenty of time between drops for this to occur. A little goes a long way with hcl.
 
So I finally have a pre-planned time to take 25I this sunday morning. I havent tripped in a while so I am not sure what to expect especially as ive only tripped on a few substances. I dont know how to prepare, im taking 1mg buccaly early in the morning. SHould I just prepare to chill, some music, a movie or tv show to watch, some good talk. I will be with my fiancee although she will not be tripping, this will be kinda weird as its the first time ive taken a more then very small dose without her tripping on an identical dose usually as she is a lot smaller then me. Or should I prepare for a hardcore trip? I can handle myself quite well, not worried about visuals just mental loops / anxiety + bodyload etc.

Will it be hard for me to converse with my fiancee? if she's sober although she will be smoking grass. I will also be smoking grass + synthetic cannabinoids through out the trip. I will just be hanging out in my room. Will it have much of an afterglo?, how long until im back to baseline on average? Any info on how I should prepare would be great, looking forward o this as ive been looking for something as visual as possible.
 
Don't bother preparing. It's a great psychedelic for just fooling around, enjoying the visuals, and whatever else you happen to find yourself doing. :) Childlike wonder and curiosity is one of the *-NBOMes' specialties, and it's hard to cultivate that sort of experience if you're adhering to a strict preconceived plan. You need spontaneity.

That's not to imply that it can't get very intense, in a very good way!
 
OTGee said:
So I finally have a pre-planned time to take 25I this sunday morning. I havent tripped in a while so I am not sure what to expect especially as ive only tripped on a few substances. I dont know how to prepare, im taking 1mg buccaly early in the morning. SHould I just prepare to chill, some music, a movie or tv show to watch, some good talk. I will be with my fiancee although she will not be tripping, this will be kinda weird as its the first time ive taken a more then very small dose without her tripping on an identical dose usually as she is a lot smaller then me. Or should I prepare for a hardcore trip? I can handle myself quite well, not worried about visuals just mental loops / anxiety + bodyload etc.

Will it be hard for me to converse with my fiancee? if she's sober although she will be smoking grass. I will also be smoking grass + synthetic cannabinoids through out the trip. I will just be hanging out in my room. Will it have much of an afterglo?, how long until im back to baseline on average? Any info on how I should prepare would be great, looking forward o this as ive been looking for something as visual as possible.
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Make sure you hold your saliva in your mouth for atleast 20-30 minutes to let it absorb. I usually try and rinse with mouthwash and brush my gums with a dry toothbrush, not sure how much good that'll do though.

It won't be anything hardcore. I never feel any negative bodyload and haven't heard of any from friends. Music is very good. I would start the trip without any grass. Give it 1.5 - 2 hours. The state of mind is usually so clear headed it's worth exploring without fogging it by getting stoned. It's unlike a lot of psychedelics. That's not to say it isin't a good thing, weed synergizes well with it and will kick the intensity up a lot and that sounds like where you wanna be.

I'd say I could handle myself better at a party on 1mg buccal of 25i rather then a couple blunts. Theres no thought loops or paranoia. All just imo of course

Happy trails :)
 
kong said:
Only lay one dose at a time if you're going this route. Unless you know exactly how to lay blotter laying multiple doses is a recipe for disaster with this compound.

Hopefully no one is foolish enough to explain to the unwashed masses how to correctly lay 50 sheets or similar. We don't need this stuff ending up on blotter sold as lsd. There are enough people doing that sort of thing already. I hope I'm not coming across as elitist because I want everyone to have access to the chemicals they want and the knowledge to take them safely.

There is no need for blotter. Evaporate a known dose on glass, scrap and place under your tongue. It's that simple.

When converting freebase to the hcl salt just add hcl a drop at a time until everything goes into solution. Allow plenty of time between drops for this to occur. A little goes a long way with hcl.
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I was explaining the general process of laying blotter, I wasn't implying bulk laying or single laying. the person obviously wanted to lay blotters for personal use, and that is MUCH easier to do than the evaporation technique you just mentioned. If you have the tools to accurately measure out 25i in solution (which you should if you're going to even BOTHER with this chemical) then laying on blotter is just as easy.
 
skillet: It took a week to change colour, and when it happened, it happened quickly. Maybe autocatalytic?
 
theotherside said:
As it turns out I will getting this one first as far as the NBOMe's are concerned. Would like to wait and try it at the beach soon but will probably do a few allergy tests leading up to it. High hopes for this one.
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If you have never taken 25c, 25b, 25I, DO NOT TAKE THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME OUTSIDE, OR IN PUBLIC. these have intense visuals and you can easily lose yourself. You eyes become huge, and your skin can get either a green hue or if your getting warm, of course kinda red! its obvious looking right at someone that they aren't quite.... 'right' (or whatever the sober public thinks is wrong). Its very strong and hits pretty quickly without any warning or any noticeable come-up. it could make you sick for a second if you have motion sickness, and you don't want to throw up in public, draws attention to the fact you aren't 'right'. its a very opening and wakening experience, its an associative so you can share an awesome experience with those who are also enjoying the experience. Fare warning, for those who are having a bad trip, the mind is completely open on this stuff so as much as it sucks, these people do need to be watched and kinda babysat, you really dont want stupid shit to happen .... :(
Ive seen the good and bad with these psychedelics, dont underestimate them, no matter how often your try them. Just because you've done it before, guarantee, you will NEVER have the same experience, no matter how hard you try... actually, best advice, dont try, itll be okay, JUST. LET. GO.
 
I have the HCL salt, I don't know how to put blotters (and I don't want too for the moment). I just mix 10mg/10ml from now. Just waiting the right occasion to trip :)
 
I absolutely love the name "Solaris". I'm pretty much sold on that alone. Seriously though, I'm hoping this compound will be hyper-analytical like DOC. Definitely looks like it has that potential. On a slight tangent, I don't find DOC generally visual at all (feels more like noise on this compound), its almost completely a mind trip, which has taken me far deeper than any other psychedelic drug (Phenethylamine/Tryptamine/Erogloid/Arylcyclohexylamine or combination thereof). I'm wondering if comparable or possibly greater depths could be achieved with 25I. Time will tell (well a month or so...).
 
IamMe90 said:
I was explaining the general process of laying blotter, I wasn't implying bulk laying or single laying. the person obviously wanted to lay blotters for personal use, and that is MUCH easier to do than the evaporation technique you just mentioned. If you have the tools to accurately measure out 25i in solution (which you should if you're going to even BOTHER with this chemical) then laying on blotter is just as easy.
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I wasn't suggesting you were, my apologies..my point was directed at no one in particular:)
 
Tried 25I-NBOMe yesterday morning, kind of a let down but still very interesting. Bodyload was fucking amazing, my favorite out of all psychedelics. Visuals, was expecting more but maybe il just have to dose higher. It also lasted a little longer then expected with me still tripping a few hours after it should have come down. Very sparkly and great purple visuals. Felt very extraterestrial and alien, reminded me of acid while also reminding me of all the new RC psych's. Will wait a while before trying again and try a better set + setting but its a very interesting substance, good experiance overall. May write up a trip report if I get the time.
 
Does the Bodyload is rougher than 2C-E / DOC ?

I also know it feels weird to ask that, but if I want to dose on my blotters (I have 1/4' blotter art from Internet).
I need to know how many ml my blotters can hold, then mix the solution with the chemicals. Pouring the blotters and dried them ? :)
 
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Buccal Administration? 25i-Nbome

I've heard that the best way to take complexed 25i-NBOME blotters is through the buccall route. I've heard that the upper teeth is the best. I'm still a bit confused as to what this means.

So the blotter is placed on your gums at the crevice where the gums and cheek meet on the top? Does it matter what part of your teeth? The front near the lips, the side where the cheek is more?


Also, is it THAT big of a difference whether or not you don't swallow your spit for thirty minutes?
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I don't think it makes a huge difference as to where in your mouth you hold it, seems to be mostly personal preference whether under tongue or on gums, though under tongue you're more likely to be swallowing it.

Not too familiar with 2CI-NBOME so not sure on the specific advantages/disadvantages of oral vs. sublingual, but in general you wanna avoid swallowing it, as it may be destroyed or poorly absorbed in the stomach. Through gums, it directly enters bloodstream and avoids 1st-pass metabolism.
 
This belongs in Psychedelic drugs - check the BDD gudelines in my sig - so moving it there :)

BDD > PD
 
Merging this into the Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe thread, doesn't need to have it's own thread.

I don't think it's extremely important where you hold it but what I would do is first rinse my mouth with mouthwash. It helps remove a layer of dead skin cells on top of the inside of your cheek and the alcohol in it helps dilate the blood vessels. Then if you hold blotter paper in the crevice I think the purpose is that it sits there comfortably without moving too much but I am not necessarily convinced that it is also ideal for absorption. I think you can move it around in your mouth and let the blotter soak with saliva, then spread the saliva all over the inside of the mouth with your tongue and stick the blotter back in the crevice for a while, and repeat.
All in all it should only matter marginally, but not swallowing the saliva IS quite important. You see the drug is not active orally and destroyed in the stomach so all saliva that has dissolved drug in it is wasted when swallowed. Do not swallow for as long as possible. I'm not sure if it's known how long is long enough but I see people holding it for 30-40 minutes. Maybe check posts by NBOMe veterans like Erny if they have discovered a trend that indicates how long of a time is enough to keep the blotter and saliva in your mouth.

I myself take the compounds snorted, methodically cut with mannitol so please do not consider me an experience-expert on the matter but I do know enough theory to tell you the above.
 
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