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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy DXM Thread - Part 2 - Robojesus, forgive us our sins

everthing is full of snow here no chance riding my bike. Also I have sport 4 times a week I go a lot in the sauna which I though helped a lot but all i want is just for this madness to stop. I think it will just be a matter of time befor eI tell my parents but Im scared not scared of being punished but they weill never think of me the same again they will always have this side though oh what a horrible son we have we should ahve toght him better. And I dont want them telling everyoone ...
 
any other good advice anyone could give me anything I could eat or drink ?
 
I'd give it a little more time before telling your parents and your doctor Lars. If you've coped with it for a couple of weeks, try and survive for another couple of weeks and see how it goes. Take it day by day, try and keep up your normal routine, or relax a little more if you feel stressed.

I'm not sure if there's anything your doctor can really do for you other than offer reassurance. There's no magic drug going to cure you - so even if you do tell him you'll probably not get any help. And having "drug-user" on your medical record from the age of 14 isn't going to be good.

The only answer is to avoid DXM and don't take it anymore.
 
You brain will be fine, just stay away from DXM for a while. Also don't even think of something as horrible as commiting suicide - it is never worth it. Many of the left over effects from drugs will disappear and you will see that you have many years ahead of you, and life can be absolutely amazing! Suicide is one of the most selfish things anyone can do - if you are worried about your parents reaction to the drug, then imagine their reaction to loosing a son! You will be fine, I assure you - at your age things feel like they are the end of the world, but as you go through life time and time again you will realize life is full of so many wonderful surprises and new experiences...

This will pass, and you have so much wonder ahead of you in life =] Also there isn't really anything shameful about using psychedelics, even if parents misunderstand it, it can be used for expanding the mind and understandings of the world. If you were using a horrible hard drug like Heroin or Cocaine then I could understand feeling full out guilt - but all you took was a psychedelic something that can be used to explore your mind. The only thing is you realized that spacing out trips between longer periods of time in essential to psychedelics. Just be safe and try not to do large sessions close to each other, but I would completely stay away from DXM for a while. You will be fine.
 
If you're so worried about alternative perceptual models being integrated and utilized into your waking life, stop taking these substances.
There are days I feel like that without drugs for sure, because these compounds can have very serious psychological repercussions.
Your brain is highly plastic, especially at your age, so what you do can shape how you think.
Abstinence from all drugs can be helpful, but the fact is, if you want to continue this type of research, be prepared to accept different ways of thinking.
 
thank you for all these wonderfull replys I have been waiting for a site like this which can help me undertsand. For anyone out their who thinks I wont stop. I am never gonna touch a drug again. Maby alcohol but not until Im atlest 18. I hope this will not have any long lasting effeks. Well I have heard of a other case where a 15 year old did the same and had really long depresions I think I just ge worried becasue it doesnt go back to normal fast enoughf I will try waiting a few more weeks if it get wors I will tell my parent an go to a doc and a pychiatran if it goes away I will tell them when im like 20 or 30 and well loughf about it. I will tell anyone else who wants to try drugs or who is in drugs. I understand why drugs are illegale now and I never went that far that I was able to check out my inside I only felt good at some points...
If their are any long lasting brain damges I will have to live with them... I think I do it to my self though by making my self think I have them I kind of start thinking I have them and it happens.

thank you so much. And I actually didnt think about having drug abuse in my record thanks for that to...
But a drug is a drug so one or a other way my parents but be embarresd if they found out
 
Good to hear your going abstinent- at least for a couple of years.

Your age shocked me a bit as well-
Stay safe & hang in there
 
That's imho a sign of you feeling better or at least not worse enough to not crave for it.
( i`m not hundred percent sure if i`m cool with my statement. because i craved for things while feeling bad and knowing it will make it worse if i do it again. and actually did.
but some things left me feeling so bad for too many times that i would no more crave for them. Amphetamine for example took me about 8 years to finally have learned my lessons.)

However give your brain a rest. And most important, follow your daily routine. The more activities the better.
You will feel better after time.
 
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zirbeldude said:
That's imho a sign of you feeling better or at least not worse enough to not crave for it.
( i`m not hundred percent sure if i`m cool with my statement. because i craved for things while feeling bad and knowing it will make it worse if i do it again. and actually did.
but some things left me feeling so bad for too many times that i would no more crave for them. Amphetamine for example took me about 8 years to finally have learned my lessons.)

However give your brain a rest. And most important, follow your daily routine. The more activities the better.
You will feel better after time.
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yes wow that a lot of time... did you have any long term damaged? yeah I am sure though i wont go take it again.... i will stop for sure! but did you ever have wierd dreams?
 
i was not talking about dxm. i talked about amphetamine. and i din´t use it 8 years straight.
some years i didn´t touch it at all. mostly a few times a year.
sometimes more often and most use was almost 6 months daily.
but i had several psychotic breaks after tweaking too much.
that happened just too often and the last one was too hardcore. that was 3 years ago.
i didn´t touch it again.

and about dxm.
the following is something i wrote on another forum about dissociative induced mania
(it´s kinda off topic here, but it might interest you).
i used dxm about 5 months almost daily.
300mg when i got up and 300mg in the evenings. and on the weekends i took trip doses from 600mg-1,2g
i had a few breaks where only took benzos and or amphetamine.

i have been into dissociative induced mania myself after messing a little too much with dxm a few years ago. it made me a different person in a not so positive way.
i behaved in ways i usualy never would.
like going in a pharmacy and asking for a ketamine injenction. and even arguing with them.
and many many other even dangerous things.

at first everything was cool...i mean it was cool the whole time.
getting stuff done.
be very very confident with chicks. not that i am unconifdent in that area but the kind of approaches i made. damn. :/
this all ended with an amphetamin induced psychosis (after a 3 day binge).
and after a while (months later) i realized how wack i was. this just was not me.
this stuff turned me into an asshole.

the problem is that you don´t notice it yourself how it changes you....sure the positive things....but if the mania gets too strong only the people around you notice in an unpleasent way the change of your personality.

it took months for my coginitive abilities to recover. very often i wasnt even sure when a memory popped in my head if it was a thing that actually happend or if i dreamed it.
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and about weird dreams, it´s not unusual to have them after dxm or any other psychedelic.

i have btw also been in states like you are atm. and it was not permanent.

keep your head up. ;)
 
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multinutrient supplements, cod liver oil supplements, mixed nuts, whole grains, mixed berries and bananas, grapefruits, all the protein you can get like seafood, wheat, poultry, beans, beef, and a lot of clean water.

this diet in combination with sobriety should clean you right up. :) remember your brain stays in development until around 25 years old and has an early window of opportunity when it benefits most from experience. stay in school.
 
lars90 said:
I understand why drugs are illegale now
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I was feeling you right up until you said this lars! Never say that you understand why drugs are illegal - do you think the best treatment you could be given is the police breaking your door down, dragging you through the courts and jailing you for using a drug?

If you wouldn't like that, which I guess you wouldn't right? then lets not support criminalising other drug users.
 
when the dxm and its effects leave your system, you will feel fine. Drugs have a way of psychologically making you feel crazy,depressed, suicidal, and everything in between. Just know that you will inevitably feel fine and you need to lay off the DXM for a bit.
 
zirbeldude said:
i was not talking about dxm. i talked about amphetamine. and i din´t use it 8 years straight.
some years i didn´t touch it at all. mostly a few times a year.
sometimes more often and most use was almost 6 months daily.
but i had several psychotic breaks after tweaking too much.
that happened just too often and the last one was too hardcore. that was 3 years ago.
i didn´t touch it again.

and about dxm.
the following is something i wrote on another forum about dissociative induced mania
(it´s kinda off topic here, but it might interest you).
i used dxm about 5 months almost daily.
300mg when i got up and 300mg in the evenings. and on the weekends i took trip doses from 600mg-1,2g
i had a few breaks where only took benzos and or amphetamine.




and about weird dreams, it´s not unusual to have them after dxm or any other psychedelic.

i have btw also been in states like you are atm. and it was not permanent.

keep your head up. ;)
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very intresting what you say but my question was actually if had any long term brain damages?
i know that dxm ant ketamin are very a like.... just ketamin is not so bad as dxm...


today i feel the best sene a long time i only get the depresions because i make my self think this will never go away so its good knowing that im not the only one having this


I think i know why i had the bad memory becausw i havent slept good or dremed for weeks so my brain wasent anle to save all the stufff... so it kind of over worked it self it has gotten better after those dreams its a lot easyier for me to rember stuff now ...

thanks for your advice dont get on it again just stop like i am doing right now ....
 
Ismene said:
I was feeling you right up until you said this lars! Never say that you understand why drugs are illegal - do you think the best treatment you could be given is the police breaking your door down, dragging you through the courts and jailing you for using a drug?

If you wouldn't like that, which I guess you wouldn't right? then lets not support criminalising other drug users.
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urgh god no thats not what i meen... I know why they were made illegal not becasue the police wants to take us the great feeling away that it gives us but because people are not the same when their high they get adicted and they damage them selves with out being ale to stop. You can prettty much control anything in your normal state but once your hoooked your hooked this is what the state wants to cut down and you will only be able to stop when you understood this... This is why all the legal drugs like alcohol, weed(just in holand and california if you get a perscription) and nut meg are legalbecause the high they give it not adicting enoughf to rewin a life. And weed is just illegal because it opens gateways to new drugs that why they are debating if it is supose to be legal lised...
 
im not going on the dxm again i have heard of many people who got brain damged i dont want to end this way so ill cut all drugs who know when the next time will be when i drink alcohol again maby 18 20 or even 25 ... The life while being sober is so much better then it is while being high. Today I have felt the best i have ever felt sinse the las dxm dosage... No more drugs ....
 
Ismene said:
Don't be too hasty lars, no more DXM fine, no-ones arguing with you there but mushrooms? LSD? Oral DMT? These are drugs that can make you cherish life.
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are you tring t get me back to do drus? no drugs never again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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