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Comparing The Pacific to the excellence that was Band of Brothers is a sick joke--though to be fair, the former had a superior soundtrack.
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Totally fucking agreed man (sorry Coffedrinker lol). The Pacific was so disconnected and jumped from place to place and character to character instead of sticking with one unit. It was still a good show but compared to Band of Brothers? Not nearly half as good.
 
Does it necessarily take one to know one, or is that just how it always seem to play out?
 
The LOTR movies were tedious, especially when they tried to write lines that kinda-sorta sounded like something Tolkien would write, when in reality it just came off as generic pseudo-Old English sounding schlock. I love the dialogue that Tolkien wrote, but so much of it was hacked up for the movies. I really wonder why they always seem to do that. They did it with V for Vendetta too. There were so many cool lines they could've used from the graphic novel, but they chopped it up into typical generic bullshit. Why must movies be cheesy?
 
Sliders was an awesome show and never should have been cancelled.

Space Odyssey may have been underrated when it was released, but that's no reason to overrate it now.

Solaris with George Clooney is about as good as space movies have gotten so far.
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
I really wonder why they always seem to do that. They did it with V for Vendetta too. There were so many cool lines they could've used from the graphic novel, but they chopped it up into typical generic bullshit. Why must movies be cheesy?
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they're trying to fit hours - hundreds of hours - of material into two or three hours. something's got to give. that's what gives.

it's hard (for me) to see how anybody could have managed the competing restraints of time, money, and all the other hundreds of variables which go into creating a big-screen version of a book, as well as peter jackson did.

i can totally understand that others may disagree and hate the adaptation but i'm inclined to think it's likely some people just love the books so much they're opposed to any movie adaptation of the book on principle and no (practical) adaptation would please them.

alasdair
 
^Heh, reminds me of the lifelong confusion I've experienced when people say something along the lines of, "the book is better than the movie". Really? You remember the thing that took you on average anywhere from double to quadruple the hours of life experience to get through, that gave you profoundly more opportunities to project your own identity into it, and demanded much more of a personal investment from you as having had more of an impact on you than the thousand-peopled film industry's adaptation and distillation of the same narrative into an audio-visual form for mass consumption? ... Huh. And to say only that would be to discount all the other differences between the experience of a book and the experience of a movie that could make one "better" than the other. It's quite common to take a shit reading a book. You can start it married and finish it a divorced triple murderer. Well, it's all quite a conundrum to me.
 
^i don't know, i'm pretty sure peter jackson left out at least a full stop and three commas from the books. what a hacque!
 
I couldn't get into LOTR at all. I've tried on several occasions to watch The Fellowship of the Ring, because I kept telling myself that if I could just finish it once with an open mind I would realize the genius and fall in love with the series. This part never happened, even after sitting through the entire film.

Jim Jarmusch's Dead Man is probably my favorite western.

I was bored with Clerks and Clerks II.

I can't be bothered with superhero movies anymore, Batman included.

Eraserhead is extremely overrated.

Avatar was neat visually, but I was unimpressed with the film as a whole.
 
psood0nym said:
^Heh, reminds me of the lifelong confusion I've experienced when people say something along the lines of, "the book is better than the movie". Really? You remember the thing that took you on average anywhere from double to quadruple the hours of life experience to get through, that gave you profoundly more opportunities to project your own identity into it, and demanded much more of a personal investment from you as having had more of an impact on you than the thousand-peopled film industry's adaptation and distillation of the same narrative into an audio-visual form for mass consumption? ... Huh. And to say only that would be to discount all the other differences between the experience of a book and the experience of a movie that could make one "better" than the other. It's quite common to take a shit reading a book. You can start it married and finish it a divorced triple murderer. Well, it's all quite a conundrum to me.
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nicely put...

in short, of course the book is better than the movie! duh!

alasdair
 
Bardo5 said:
Avatar was neat visually, but I was unimpressed with the film as a whole.
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I don't know how uncommon this opinion is. I think anyone who has seen literally any other movie could tell you Avatar's story was cliched and done-to-death. The visuals seem to be the only reason most peopled bothered with it - I mean, I remember when the movie came out and every single conversation was about "how awesome the effects were" not its "deep, compelling story".

Agreed about Clerks, though.

- Firefly was a terrible, terrible show and all the Joss Whedon fanboys who to this day lament its cancellation, need to get out of the basement and go meet a lady.

- Fletch was Chevy Chase's best movie.
 
Avatar was just John Smith and Pocahontas in a science fiction setting.
 
L2R said:
^i don't know, i'm pretty sure peter jackson left out at least a full stop and three commas from the books. what a hacque!
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Not what I meant. I guess my point was missed. I am not saying that a movie should be as complete and intricate as a book, and I know they are two entirely separate entities. My complaint was that they took dialogue from the book and then mish-mashed it with dialogue used as an approximation of the original author's voice, but it comes off as just half-assed and melodramatic, rather than concise and compelling like it was in the book. I noticed that with both LOTR where they used Ye Olde English cliches all over the place, and V for Vendetta when they cut out loads of interesting lines and completely flattened certain characters.

I'm not talking about taking up another whole hour of cinema, but simply not bastardizing the content so much.

It seems like cool dialogue is an endangered species in movies.
 
This young false Casanova who made the lasts Batman in the series. What's his name again? The director I mean.

I love Fletch by the way.
 
captainballs said:
Sliders was an awesome show and never should have been cancelled.
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I loved the show, but thought it should have ended after they made it back to their original world and Jerry O'Connell unsuccessfully attempted the "squeeky fence door" trick.

Clerks bored me as well.

and Bardo, I'll be damned if I let you trash David Lynch!
 
David Lynch is a dirty pervert: he created Elephant Man.
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
I'm not talking about taking up another whole hour of cinema, but simply not bastardizing the content so much.
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next time, when watching something and this comes up, quietly remind yourself that you're likely not part the target audience...

alasdair
 
Just because I'm proudly outcast from the lowest common denominator doesn't mean I can't bitch about certain things from time to time.
 
In many cases, I prefer to watch the movie version before I read the book.

I also think that if you can't appreciate a film reboot of a book, you're being willfully stupid and short-changing yourself.
 
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