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Higher purity crystal methamphetine

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Hey Stato, I reckon Footscrazy is on the money about it being Hcl meth that has been cut with solvents. To me when I look at those 3 pictures the last one looks *almost* like a shard of ice with some smaller crystals surrounding it, this suggests that cutters have slowly been evaporating and what you have left is meth Hcl. I bet once it is fully dried out what you have resembles photographs of 'ice' posted earlier in this thread.
 
^ I think from that photo its pretty clear that the majority of your 'meth' is a fast evapporating solvent of some kind that has been used to adulterate standard D-Methamphetamine Hcl.

Meth is a potent drug and smoking pure ice is an experience almost incomparable to smoking low purity gear. I can't remember exactly how much more potent than dexamphetamine D-methamphetamine is but I know that it is notably more. Meth also has the advantage of being in a purer form than 'dexies' which have enough pill binder to make them relatively useless for anything other than oral dosing or low to moderate insufflated doses.
 
Hmmm, I believe as previously suggested by Christ! that methamphetamine is quite hygroscopic, although I am not sure to what extent. Perhaps the meth is picking up some water weight while losing the weight of fast evapporating solvent? Those numbers really don't add up and I would be interested if someone could explain them.
 
is it any better. or any difference at all if you're smoking methamphetamine through a vaporizer? Or is it not worth trying?
 
sorry if this is a stupid question..i've only done meth once, which was a year ago, and that was using a GP...Am looking at doing it again but this time a GP isnt going to be possible...so was wondering what else can i use to smoke it up??

Was thinking a spoon? would that be alright?
 
Some people just use a halogen screw type light bulb with the contents gutted and a bottle cap + straw poked through screwed onto the end of the bulb.
 
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Some people just use a halogen screw type light bulb with the contents gutted and a bottle cap + straw poked through screwed onto the end of the bulb.
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Thanks for the quick reply, appreciate it..

Although getting a light blulb and doing all that stuff isnt going to be possible as well..due to people being around and what not thats why i was thinking a spoon...just grab the spoon go to the toilet put some gear on it and keep my mouth as close to it as possible to try catch all the smoke.. but dunno if it will work so thought i'd ask on here..
 
^ I don't think a spoon isn't going to work. Glass works best for puffing meth due to the rate of heat transfer. Foil for this reason is a fairly shit option too but it'd be better than using a spoon. Use a straw to suck through too, or if you don't have a straw, a rolled up piece of cardboard or paper.
 
Might do a spoon is thick though, i cant say that it would work.. but if that's the case though you should probably just take it orally or snort it or something.
 
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Although getting a light blulb and doing all that stuff isnt going to be possible as well..due to people being around and what not thats why i was thinking a spoon...
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A spoon wouldn't work well, if at all. As footscrazy said, glass at the right thickness is best and it can't really be beaten.

I've used foil in the past but my skills of smoking off it are poor, I ended up wasting lots.

I would just snort it/eat it if I were you :)
 
Like stato I have experienced "gooey" gear that had a very potent smell to it. The circle Im in name this gas and normal shards gear.. Ive always been kinda perplexed at their reasoning of difference. But yeah the gas that comes around with the smell is often moist and sticky. From my internet research Im in the know that it shouldnt be like that and is probably cut to shit. Luckily its not a regular thing!
 
^ I've only come across wet stuff like that in QLD and yeah, it was cut to shit. Victoria and QLD seem to have quite different cultures in that QLDers seem more likely to eat or shoot their gear - wet stuff like that is ok for those methods, but in Melb, where there's such a smoking culture, wet shit like that just wouldn't be easy to move.

Stato - if you were getting an effect from taking the wet shit orally, it wasn't freebase.

There is such a difference between the effects of pure methamphetamine and cut stuff though. I remember when purities started increasing in Melbourne and I gave some experienced friends some (tested) 10% pure 'speed'. They loved it and thought it was the best ever, which I think goes to show how dismal the street purity of 'speed' can be. Also, I think many of the people who thought they had 4mar 1 year to 6 months ago probably just came across some of the purer meth that was going around. Street purities reached 60-70% for awhile which is a massive increase on the usual. I doubt the street level user would've ever come across higher than 80% pure gear. The 99%+ pure stuff I used was due to cleaning it with acetone and A/B myself.

Ah yeah, the other thing I was going to say, is if you can't smoke it, plug it! IMO it's the best way to take it - it gives you a better high/rush than smoking - I was just addicted to my crackie.
 
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Not wrong, the wet shit is a pain in the ass to smoke. Getting it from the bag, then from the straw into the pipe is a mission. Smokes up too quick and just leaves you plain unsatisfied.

With acetone washing how much should it clean? A mate washed the stuff that Im getting and it went from 100mg to 91 mgs. Im guessing that is pretty decent?
 
You'd hope that acetone would remove all the impurities, and a year back you'd be pretty much guaranteed that it would remove most of them meaning your stuff was around 90% pure, but there are several new cutters that have come on the scene that aren't removed by an acetone wash. Was this the wet stuff that you cleaned? How did it look when it was washed?
 
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^ I've only come across wet stuff like that in QLD and yeah, it was cut to shit. Victoria and QLD seem to have quite different cultures in that QLDers seem more likely to eat or shoot their gear - wet stuff like that is ok for those methods, but in Melb, where there's such a smoking culture, wet shit like that just wouldn't be easy to move.

Stato - if you were getting an effect from taking the wet shit orally, it wasn't freebase.

I think many of the people who thought they had 4mar 1 year to 6 months ago probably just came across some of the purer meth that was going around. Street purities reached 60-70% for awhile which is a massive increase on the usual. I doubt the street level user would've ever come across higher than 80% pure gear. The 99%+ pure stuff I used was due to cleaning it with acetone and A/B myself.
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Yeah I've always thought this as well ;)

In my meth taking days I would usually get average stuff. The few times I've gotten really pure stuff it was a different experience...tiny bits last for so long in the pipe and you get so much smoke. My mates that IV would always throw up after shooting a point, and it would keep them up for ages. A gram would last three or four times longer than normal.

There's always been a fair bit of wet meth around in Adelaide. Usually it's quite good, sometimes it's a waste of money and occasionally it'll be very strong. The strong stuff was normally a red colour. The rumours were that it was from a local producer.

I've cleaned my gear with acetone before, it's always a bit disheartening how much you get back :) you have to do a fair bit at once to make it worthwhile IMO, or at least to make you feel it was worthwhile.
 
^ It's not really not worthwhile though, as regardless of whether you wash it or not, you're still using the same amount of gear - it just looks better when it's a big amount! (oopsy just saw you said to make it feel worthwhile ;))

I still think it's always worthwhile though, as I believe having a more homogenous sample means the vaping temperature is more stable - ie. you wont be getting the cutters burning off before the meth, so instead the meth can heat up, hold heat and vape consistently, giving you a better hit. Because of this you'll most likely get more hits off the same amount of gear than you would've got without washing out the cuts. Plus you're not inhaling the random shit.

Do you know how pure the good wet stuff in Adelaide you mentioned was - have you ever washed it? I just can't see wet stuff being more than 20%, maybe 30% of it's only gluggy, and even then those would be maximum's.
 
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Nah this isnt the wet stuff. That was a rare batch. This stuff that I saw was in good sized shards, looked exactly like a quartz rock you would find in a driveway. Smoked great, and the puddle was clear and veiny. What I have come to know as "good shit" haha.
 
Do you know what it looked like once cleaned? When I've cleaned good shit with acetone the result is very tiny, very sparkly little crystals.

I've never actually acetone washed shit cut with isop or any other of the new cutters which acetone doesn't remove - anyone who has - but does it look like after the wash?
 
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