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hmmmm, i guess it would be pretty easy for ppl to be located (by internets federal police squad )and contacted by local police.

I know a kid who had a phonce call from local police station for posting a pill report on bluelight. He was told politely not to do it again.

If I was to organise a hammer delivery from this site - I wonder what my chances of being contacted - or visited - by police would be.

edit: im australian, and the fella (no - not me, i dont do E) who put up the pill report lives on gold coast
 
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I know a kid who had a phonce call from local police station for posting a pill report on bluelight. He was told politely not to do it again.
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Thats pretty weird. Must be something more to the story, can't imagine the cops would take the time to track someone down just to call him and say not to post pill reports :/
 
well, the internets police (no idea what name they have - who from memory is based in sydney) monitor heaps of drug websites - along with more serious stuff like child porn etc.

when they view message boads, they can see a posters details - send a generic request to the ISP for billing address info etc.

So it dont take em much time - its part of what these ppl get paid to do

Then just pass the tips (along with however many others they gather in that time period) to the various local police stations.

Then some bored coppa has to go through the info - and warn some stupid kid not too recommend others to take certain pills.

My mate Greg's cousin works for the IT side of this team. He spends all day shifting through porn (not commercial sites, but more underground stuff, like peer to peer tracker sites n stuff) to find criminal shit. He has some pretty gross stories to tell (yes, ive heard them first hand when he was up in brissie to visit the family)

You might have seen references to this division of coppers - they often get some screen time whenever theres a big hacker story that makes channel ten's excuse for a news service
 
Mr Tee Blah said:
well, the internets police (no idea what name they have - who from memory is based in sydney) monitor heaps of drug websites - along with more serious stuff like child porn etc.

when they view message boads, they can see a posters details - send a generic request to the ISP for billing address info etc.

So it dont take em much time - its part of what these ppl get paid to do

Then just pass the tips (along with however many others they gather in that time period) to the various local police stations.
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Is that the same thing for BL?

Can someone remind me why we don't swim?
 
Because we are implying the same thing. Whether we pretend its not us using drugs or not would be irrelevant because the cops aren't that dumb.

I have seen people post ridiculous amounts of drugs on BL and never heard of any one being contacted by the police from it.
 
Surely the pill report story isnt tru its a harm reduction site warning people of dangerous pills on the market probly saves a few lives
 
This thread is getting off topic. The stuff you guys are chatting about is here say. Everyone should be of the opinion that cops do troll certain sites.. I'd guess mainly looking for child exploitation material and predators personally, but who knows.

So what is stopping cops acting as the buyers or sellers on that silk road place? And busting people that way?
 
^ It is. And good point about the cops potentially looking to bust people through Silk Road.

The story about the pill reports doesn't sound right. :\
 
poledriver said:
So what is stopping cops acting as the buyers or sellers on that silk road place? And busting people that way?
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I think they have recommended, user reviewed sellers. So theoretically a buyer could be busted but it would only be once per seller and that would be the end of the sellers reputation. Also the seller would have to make legitimate transactions prior to that to get the reputation.

The buyer never gets any other info about the seller though so it is meant to be impossible for sellers to be ID'd. The buyer is the one taking the biggest risk because they have to provide a location for the products to be sent to.
 
Poledriver its like ebay people rate them and give feedback so if someone has no feedback or rating would not buy from them
 
gotcha. so i guess it's not possible for a sting to operate where they set up as buyers and sellers and get good feedback and then hit the public?
 
Its possible if the cops are prepared to sell drugs for a while. Or if someone buys off an unrated seller who is a cop. Also there is the added risk of a buyer having their mail detected. Obviously these are risks that some people are willing to take.
 
I really don't see too many coppers going on a site like that to bust small time users purchasing small quantities of drugs, that said its definately a risk and therefore these transactions are probably best avoided.

It is funny because I bet traffic on the site has increased dramatically as a result of this article, its just like the reports on where the heroin is at in Richmond or the 'Kronic' range of products, the media giving free advertising to the people and products they condemn.
 
the silk road is digitally untraceable..the way the tor network works is it bounces around your net communication from server to server around the world so no one can see your actual location, its also more complicated than that but goes wayyy above my head too. no one knows who is accessing the site nor can police or anyone for that matter determine where the site is located...and when you purchase stuff it takes that transaction and sets up a bunch of dummy transactions so no one can tell who the real transaction is...and most items that get caught through customs that are concealed where intercepted because of a snitch or something..sooo the idea is if all is kept quiet about your secret purchase and the right precautions were taken then everything should be kosh..my cousin has a friend who gets stuff mailed to his house every week with drugs..and he hasnt been caught "yet"...

if you read on the website they tell you everything they do to keep you anonymous..only way you would get caught is being dumb
 
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Sourcing - lol
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lol yeah I actually stumbled upon this article quite a while ago on American abc news.
I remember thinking the exact same thing... "If you haven't heard of it yet, you damn sure have now."
See it's lapses of simple logic like this that make me think the War on Drugs is more geniune stupidity than politics.
 
^What if anything does that have to do with *snip*?

*snip* is great as far as i'm concerned. It encompasses all that bitcoin stands for. Free Market Trade. De-Centralized trade and a brilliant selection of choice to it's users.

I can't honestly be sure how long a site like that will last, but for the time being it's a pretty neat resource if you're willing to spend some time understanding the system instead of thinking "oh, it's probably the cops".

99% of users are familiar with PGP encryption which ensures only the user meant to see certain data see's that data. Overall it's a really well implemented system. They also offer hedging (because of bitcoins unreliable value fluctuation) So sellers on the site can pay like 8% or something (i think it's added onto the end value of the product anyway) to hedge their bitcoin prices to the US Dollar, which means that even if the value drops (eg at 9am lets say BTC is worth $10USD, and at 9pm that night it's worth $5 - you had a transaction worth 100 bitcoins at 9am, it would pay out 200 btc at 9pm because the value had changed). This also means that whoever is funding silk road has a shitload of money worth of bitcoins stockpiled to fund this operation.

Likely this person was mining in the infancy on the bitcoin system. Something I wish i knew about in 2009, let me tell you.

I think one of the greatest aspects of the site is the use of an Escrow system, which personally in the drugs trade is an oxymoron (not once have i ever done a drug deal that i expected i could get a refund or my money back if the gear didn't arrive or was shit). What this means is that for every sale made, most sellers will let the buyer leave the funds in SRs escrow system until the item arrives - then the funds are released and a feedback is left for the seller, or if nothing arrives some form of compensation is paid or unpaid depending on the resolution between seller and buyer.
 
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spacejunk said:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/592417-IMPORTANT-WARNING-Everyone-must-read!!
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I think its pretty common knowledge who one of the informers is. Plus its a public forum and it makes sense that the coppers are monitoring sites such as bluelight, Ive changed the way I post, I now post as though the coppers are watching every post.

Ive personally toned down my posts about RC's because if you look at the front page of Aussie drug discussion a good % of threads are now about RC's which to me is a red flag to cops to start cracking down on people ordering RC's online, plus it encourages people to start ordering RC's and drugs online and in my selfish way I see this as fucking it up for me lol

I know RC's need to be discussed from a harm reduction point but I now do my reading and posting in the EU section and other forums, I just dont want love letters and feds kicking down my door because of posts on BL
 
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^if you think i'm actually an informer you're really wrong and have been trolled something chronic. Common knowledge lol.
 
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