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Zopiclone or Zolpidem?

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Which do you prefer for

a) its intended use (getting to sleep)

b) getting high (if that's possible)
 

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Zopiclone had zero recreational value for me, but was better than Zolpidem for knocking me out. Zolpidem can be kinda fun and weirdly trippy if you "fight" the sleep. I kinda like it with a joint and then just succumbing to the sleep. ymmv though. It's also pretty good at knocking you out ime.
 

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You can certainly get a high from them but are great for sleep, I found if I took some oxy and zolpidem I could get a great nod going but that's terrible harm reduction so I advice against it if you are sensitive to that mix, been in an ambulance too many times from mixing opiates and sleeping drugs like benzos or z drugs
 

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Every time I hear the words Zopiclone I can taste that horrid metallic taste in my mouth.
I definitely noticed that on Eszopiclone, too, but I wouldn't describe it as horrid. It was mild for me and didn't bother me.

I loved Eszopiclone for sleep. No abuse/recreational potential but it was great for sleep and was not addictive (for me at least, after 5 months)
 

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Damn,if they getting so popular!
You can still hardly sell em here and IMO Z-drugs are used to wean us off benzos in a grand scheme. Patient asks for benzos, doc doesnt want to loose patients by scripting nothin, so he script Z - drugs. Patient goes out disappointed, but notices he can get " something " outta it.
Same Way they did it with barbs! Aaah Nembutal! Either i get desperate and rob hospital pharmacy at gunpoint or never gonna see em again.
 

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Every time I hear the words Zopiclone I can taste that horrid metallic taste in my mouth.
Funnily enough, the last few times I've had Zopiclone the metallic taste was totally absent for some reason but the effects were as expected.
 

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I notice the taste is a lot more noticeable with the generic brand than the Imovane brand.

I actually started to get used to the taste though. It felt like something was missing when it wasn't there.
 

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Not everyone gets it, but it’s a fairly common reported side effect.
Yeh, I always used to suffer from it and as Kaden_Nite said, it became a side effect I expected and had grown used to. But recently I chanced upon some and the metallic taste was totally absent.


Having said that, I've just realised that this would be around the same time I went down with Covid-19...
 

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It makes all beverages taste like they're spiked with zopiclone. The sweeter the beverage, the more bitter it tastes.

When I first tried zopiclone, I kept trying to wash the taste away with vanilla coke, which seemed to just make me more aware of the fact that there was nothing I could do to rid my palate of this gastly poisonn.. fine with it now though.
 

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Not everyone gets it, but it’s a fairly common reported side effect
Nope I don't taste anything off Zopiclone, I chew mine in half, 2 or so at a time used to eat up to 8 if I'd been raving, my ex could taste them off my lips after kissing him goodnight lol he hated the taste used to give me as funny look when I'd crunch them up lol

Not tried Zolpidem but apparently it's not as long lasting, 3 hours instead of 6 I think so they're good at getting you to sleep but not if you wake up during the night, so I'm the UK they prefer to prescribe Zopiclone
 

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b) getting high (if that's possible)
How many times do I have to say this for the love of God!!!!

Go take a 7.5mg one, crush it up, remove thepill casing & if you dont use them I'd NOT suggest the full 7.5mg but it's upto you I guess. Go snort that shit right up inside your nose & give it 5 minutes & I promise you you'll fucking understand all too well.
 

Zopiclone bandit

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For some chemical reason that ROA is quite different, it kicks in with effects like a low dose of 4-HO-MET & sometimes your vision will go pure black & white. That is just the start of a truly bizarre experience that is like.............well I class it as 4-HO-MET crossed with 4-MeO-PCP.

I'm not alone in this as everyone who has said I'm full of shit in the local junkie scene round here I've given them a huge dose (snorting it kicks in a good 3/4 times harder than eating it & is quite a different experience) I've dropped fucking Junkies with a big mouth, they weren't carrying their balls in a wheelbarrow after snorting 7.5mg with no tolerance believe me.
 

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I’ve e come across Zopiclone 10.0mg , haven’t bought them yet, just want to know which one is better for sleep? I currently take Ambien 12.5mg.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thank you,
LOTW
 

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I’ve e come across Zopiclone 10.0mg , haven’t bought them yet, just want to know which one is better for sleep? I currently take Ambien 12.5mg.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thank you,
LOTW
Well Ambien is the brand name (one of them) for Zolpidem. So that should take care of that.

As for the difference between Zopiclone and Zolpidem (Ambien):

Zopiclone increases both stage 2 and slow-wave sleep (SWS) while Zolpidem increases only SWS and causes no effect on stage 2 sleep.

Zopiclone is very similar pharmacologically to benzodiazepines.


Much as I'd like to: I cannot claim credit for the above ever so eloquent way of describing the difference i.e. I just did the hard work for you:


I can, however, attest to the fact that Zolpidem is active for a much shorter duration (around 3 hours if I'm not mistaken) and its purpose is to INDUCE initial sleep and let your body take over from there. Zopiclone is active for a far longer period of time (which I guess makes sense given the above little factoids).

The jury is out on the above though usually. In THEORY and IF your body takes over naturally from Zolpidem then it's ACTUAL sleep that you're getting this as opposed to, let's call it, a "drug induced" sleep which may or may not leave you feeling fresh and ready to take on the world when you wake up in the morning. Same principle as alcohol really i.e. while one may have a few drinks (or more) and go to bed there is evidence (scientific) that you're not REALLY getting any sleep (there's a whole explanation to this but which I don't recall in great and intricate detail).

I can also tell you that Zopiclone (7.5mg) gives you a hangover similar to a benzo. hangover (well it does me anyway). And some complain about a metallic taste that it leaves in your mouth both when taking it and for most of the next day (that's also my experience). But as has been noted above: some experience this and some don't and from what I gather it's brand related.

I don't know where you're from but I've never personally seem Zopiclone 10mg i.e. only ever seen or heard of 7.5mg. But I'm guessing (according to an Internet search anyway) that 10mg is available.

Just for fun here's a nice article for you (pretty nicely laid out and to the point):


If I personally were to make the choice: it'd be Zopiclone purely because I know that almost 100% of the time when you're "out" you're "out" until the next morning. With Zolpidem: you take your chances i.e. I've used them before too. It's not unheard of to fall asleep on Zolpidem and then wake up a few hours later and then spend the rest of the night and early morning staring at the ceiling.

Oh and Zolpidem and vats of booze are not a great combination either just by the way i.e. it's one sure fire way of doing things and not remembering what you did (or said) the next day.

Oh and also: Zolpidem you are SUPPOSED to take as soon as you get INTO bed i.e. not before and then wait to get sleepy as they don't work that way.
 
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