Driving, just passed a sign that said "pregnant? Need help? Call us -bethany Christian church". At least all of them aren't *huge* hippocrits
No one gives a shit about a definite life that's out of the womb that needs help, do they?
I recall talking to my parents a few years back, suggesting I was more willing to adopt than to have my own child due to bad genes on both sides. They were shocked and horrified.
Both my parents were. They want me to continue their bloodline and my sister is asexual; the wife and I determined our line will end here, so we considered adoption for a while. At this point we're not financially ready but I wouldn't rule it out. Any spawn of ours would be predisposed to addiction, anxiety, OCD, and schizophrenia. I wouldn't want to risk giving a child all the woes that we already suffer through.Wow he was horrified that you would adopt? That's confusing to me.
[USER=523975 said:✿Dai₷y✿[/USER]]If you are the woman who finds herself pregnant then it is your buisness what you do from there.
Anyone else: your opinion and what it is based on is irrelevant.
I’m adopted and the bond I formed with my Granny was the closest out of all her grandchildren and even her own children, my aunts and mother. My Granny had vascular dementia but she never once forgot who I was. I was the only one, all the way until she was 93 and died that she remembered because that’s how close we were. We were bonded the moment I was placed in her arm until the day she died in mines. Being adopted has nothing to do with human connection.I believe in an overpopulated planet. I believe in our future. I care more about our species than I do all other life in the universe.
I believe it makes more sense to care less about more autonomous humans; the more autonomous they are, the less you care about them: that's natural.
Vulnerability is cute.
This is why toddlers are cute and tax accountants are not.
It sucks to grow up and gradually shift from that cute lovable thing to a human that nobody cares about, but - hell - there are a lot of us. Too many to care about.
The strongest bond you can have (I think) is to your biological children. I never adopted children. So, I don't know. But, the bond with my child is extremely strong. She is a person, separate from all people. She is the only person on the planet that I could possibly feel this way about.
I can imagine a bond forming with an adopted child. I don't think there is much of a difference, but I imagine there is a difference. Maybe that makes me an asshole.
I have considered adopting a child, but I am driven on a primal level to reproduce and I honestly don't want to (adopt). I totally see the nobility (as someone said) within the adoption process and I have a lot of respect for people who do adopt children - particularly if they can have their own and they chose not to - but at the same time, it confuses me a bit.
I love my grandfather. I have a lot of pride in my family. I am a mix of European ancestries. Scottish, English, Irish and German. There have been some weird people in my family for sure, but I don't believe that some families need to be ended... I think generations can bleed into each other and it not be genetic.
To some extent, I think the assholes win if some of us believe we deserve to die.
Yes, I don’t know how I turned out as well as I did considering I was raised by an ice queen. As for my drug use starting around age 14, she immediately deemed me an addict and started going to al-anon meetings. Her father was an alcoholic so she’s convinced it’s in her genes and I got the “bad” gene. She had scoliosis and was in constant pain but wouldn’t take anything stronger than ibuprofen nor would she drink more than one glass of wine for fear of activating her “addiction gene”.Wow, your mom sounds like a nutter...
Nope, just the reality. It corresponds to the Bible belt.
It’s funny after I posted that I started thinking about my mother and she actually doesn’t fit in with the majority of people I’ve known growing up as far as their beliefs. She’s from Long Island and lived most of her life there, or in CT just like me. She’s racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, thinks anyone using substances is a “low-life junkie” and just overall had a very negative vibe and view of the world. The only takeaway from my childhood that I agree with her on is religion, she thought churches were fronts for getting money from people and rejected her Catholic upbringing. Yet, she went and had me and my siblings baptized. When I say she’s a hypocrite and completely full of shit that’s just one example of why. Also, all the things I listed describing her are things she would never actually admit to. Sorry to ramble, I don’t even remember the original topic or post I wrote I just can’t stand her.Yes, I don’t know how I turned out as well as I did considering I was raised by an ice queen. As for my drug use starting around age 14, she immediately deemed me an addict and started going to al-anon meetings. Her father was an alcoholic so she’s convinced it’s in her genes and I got the “bad” gene. She had scoliosis and was in constant pain but wouldn’t take anything stronger than ibuprofen nor would she drink more than one glass of wine for fear of activating her “addiction gene”.
I know it corresponds to the Bible Belt, just didn’t want to sound judgmental or offend anyone. Growing up in New England and being used to people having certain beliefs then going down south or somewhere in the Midwest is jarring.
I agree 100%. Throwing morals into the mix is what gets everyone worked up. Abortion is a medical procedure just as a colonoscopy is one, yet I don’t hear any objections to that.I’m not sure why I can’t make a very practical argument that has nothing to do with morality and you can just call it irrelevant.
I just don’t view abortion as a moral issue. I view it as a medical procedure that should be available.
The fact that I think it should be rare but not stigmatized, the fact that I think birth control should be available widely and that sex education should be done early and well... those are not medical or scientific opinions (although I’d argue they are practical and they are supported by some studies as being effective deterrents for unwanted pregnancy).
But when it comes to the final issue of whether or not I think abortion should be legal, I see it as a policy decision that should be made using science, not morals
I agree 100%. Throwing morals into the mix is what gets everyone worked up. Abortion is a medical procedure just as a colonoscopy is one, yet I don’t hear any objections to that.