Ah, those were the ones that Hans guy made and tested, right?NDEPA type compounds which are also modeled after a less-constrained simplified LSD structure are apparently also active and potent.
I see what you mean. I though for a minute you were referring to a methelenedioxy-LSD type SAR travesty. In the end we're talking about constrainedness: liberating modifications to LSD (like the molecule that is the subject of this thread) stand a good chance of working if they 'adhere to alternate configurations of other families like the PEAs', as you put it; modifications that do not make it less constrained, but merely fiddle with potentially important constituents, are less well tolerated.That is what I meant by mixing SARs: that LSD may not tolerate modifications that adhere to alternate configurations that belong to other families like the PEAs.
yes I will be carefull with it im not sure if its coming in powder or possibly blotters. Do you guys expect this to be a visual expierence? Also is this is not a lysegamine? Is it even considered a tryptamine?^ Interesting, be careful and keep us posted pls
The duration seems hard to predict and I'd 'hope for the best prepare for the worst', but if I would take a wild guess I think maybe something like 2 hours shorter than LSD? On account of the primary metabolism not really happening at positions that are different (the 4th ring), but instead just dealkylation and 2-oxo-3-hydroxy oxidation of the indole nucleus, all of which would still be expected to happen with NDTDI. But maybe a bit easier if enzymes gain more steric access to the structure, hence the guess that it might be a little shorter. [Or would it be a LOT shorter because MALT / 5-MeO-MALT are as well?]
Mostly saying that as a gamble to see if it turns out to be a close estimation. Like I said: clear your schedule to be sure.
About the quality of the trip: impossible to say, you cannot predict it - the metabolism you can take an educated guess at (mine was only moderately educated I think) but visual etc you cannot say looking at the structure.yes I will be carefull with it im not sure if its coming in powder or possibly blotters. Do you guys expect this to be a visual expierence? Also is this is not a lysegamine? Is it even considered a tryptamine?
also is there any documentation or any trip reports from any NDEPA's. I just wanna get a litle more info before going at it.