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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread - Third opinion

Bitchniggaz

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Well it might not follow the 50% increase in potency, but generally phenethylamines are about twice as bioavailable plugged and snorted as they are orally. It might not extend to the DOC class, but I know people who have experience with both nasal and oral DOC who say nasal is twice as potent, and generally nasal and rectal potency of, for example, 2C-Xs is about double for nasal and rectal. I have only ever taken DOC orally so I can't speak from experience here.

Too bad that most phens hurt like crazy to snort.
2cb up the nose is one of the worst things ive ever experienced.
Def not a nice way to stsrt the trip.
 

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Have you ever tried snorting just 2mg of 2C-B though? It barely hurts at all.

As for how DOC and DOM compare, personally I find DOC better in every single way to DOM. I have never had a satisfying trip from DOM, it always seems to be lacking something. It feels like I'm waiting for it to develop all the way and it never does. I've taken it up to 7.5mg (one time I even took it at 12mg but I had insane tolerance at the time, this was many years ago). At 7.5mg, I found it barely visual, slightly stimulating, very transparent on the body, and not much developed mentally or emotionally. Whereas 2mg of DOC will give me great visuals, euphoria, a deeply introspective and satisfying trip, and has a plateau stage where I just feel perfect after about 10 hours of the come-up/peak.
 

Bitchniggaz

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No only snorted it once.
Took 20mg orally and then 10mg up the nose.
After that ive only done it orally since my nose felt wrecked for days after.
 

sin_is_synthetic

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Saw DOC on this list
 

Xorkoth

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Drug prohibition laws are immoral and destructive.

DOC is fantastic and I'm glad I stocked a lifetime supply years ago.
 

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DOC (and most all phenethylamines) are extremely stable. If you use some alcohol to prevent microbial growth, and store in the refrigerator, it should last as long as you'd ever need it to.
 
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