- Sep 5, 2019
I find the come up quite intense with shivering, dizziness and a little anxiety. My guess is, if I split a dose in half and take it 10min apart, would that reduce the instant rocket launch?
I was skeptical about it but recently ordered 4-aco-dmt freebase and it worked surprisingly well. It was a pain to store, handle and weigh though as it becomes an oil at room temp. Do all the 4-subs become that messy when in freebase or are other ones more stable ?Never tried smoking a 4-sub tryptamine, sounds like it could be great though.
If you smoke it, the come up is much easier.
Best to convert into a freebase using baking soda, though the salt can be smoked directly itself (better to do this with the hcl rather than the fumarate, though i will admit, i have smoked the fumerate salt many times).
Smoked 4-ho-met is awesome. The comeup is fast, short and easy. The whole thing is a full psychedelic experience in 90 minutes total with very little anxiety.
Used to like vaping 4-aco-det furmate in a meth pipe; gave a nice rushy trip. Sometime would mix a little in when vaping dmt.
I have a Gemini-20 and weigh anything that isn't super potent with it. It varies by +/- 2mg unless the batteries are low, for something like this that doesn't matter. I use it for all drugs, even stuff like DOC which is active at 2mg and where 3mg is WAY stronger. I do this using liquid measurement, I weigh 50mg which might be anywhere from 48 to 52mg, and dissolve it in 50mL of alcohol. Then I dose with an oral syringe. This divides the error across all the doses. 1mL could have between 48/50 = 0.96mg and 52/50 = 1.04mg, which is totally acceptable. You can do the same with any substance, though keeping tryptamines in liquid causes them to degrade quickly.
I think the weighting error would be about +-10mg, maybe +-20mg, so per dose that’s at most +-5mg, if you’re fine with that. But it depends on the scale, though it’d be very surprised if the error is larger than that.
Make sure there is some weight on it already (and add the 4-HO-METs weight to it), that way it’ll be more accurate, that’s good practice for 0.001g scales as well.
My 4-ho-met is a mixture with mannite. I dont think that I would smoke that. Next time I will split the oral dose and report back, if that does anything to the come up
I did with unsubstituted EPT. I figured that since it was nebulizing at a lower temperature than it's vaporization point then I wouldn't have to worry about it being the fumarate salt (which may or may not be an issue anyway.) It didn't work particularly well, but it may be that it was too dilute. I tried subsequently tried with the freebase and that wasn't much better. I had better luck vaping the salt on quartz coils, but I am not confident about that being either efficient or healthy.Has anyone tried vaping a tryptamine salt dissolved in PG/VG? I can't remember what my metocin is, I think fumarate. For some reason I've just never invested in the kit required to properly "smoke" delicate tryptamines, maybe it's some subconscious bias about having something around which would also function as a crack pipe. But vaping seems somehow cleaner and is just so much more convenient anyway, technological hassles aside.