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Benzos The Benzodiazepine MEGA THREAD - Direct Benzo Questions Here

Mracid

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Is it common to redose after a black out? I am prescribed clonazepam and i normally dont blackout as i have a really high tolerance but sometimes i accidentally go a little to far and then ill wake up and more than half of my prescription is gone like say ill take 8 x 0.5 mg pills sublingually and have a drink or two or take an opite and ill blackout and then when i wake up 10-15 pills are missing, and this happens almost everytime i blackout its like my body always wants more so i take more till i pass out or something and like i said this doesnt happen often but happened recently when i had 2-3 drinks with my benzos and i took about half of my script, i realize this is very dangerous but have any of you experienced this?
Seems like your conscious mind knows its bad for you but the unconscious is a child that only wants to feel good, so by blocking your ability to make conscious decisions, you become the unconscious mind trying to get comfortable.

Don't take this the wrong way but I think some psychological problems that might not even be around your head these days, are actually pushing your unconsious mind towards blacking out or ''dying without dying''. So in this sense, I'd look at what is bothering me or what has always been and how it can affect my unconsious mind, by observing psychosomative symptoms.
 

Zulualphakilo

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Hi guys, was mega into vals for a few months and during that time found some really great success with the music I make I was literally making some of the best music i've ever made and almost completely effortlessly. It seems to open a different chapter of my head that had so much more imagination and a higher intensity of concentration. Now I've been clean for a month, a really tough month its been, kicked almost all of the drugs out of my life cold turkey.

My problem is I can't remember any of the process of making any of the music (I struggle to remember the majority of the time I was using benzo's regularly) and I struggle to concentrate on the music too. I physically cannot make music anywhere near as good as I could back then. I actually sit and awe at some of it and question if it was definitely me who made it, its so much more complex than the stuff I can make now.

I need this musical edge back!!!!!!!
Is there anything I can do aside from loading myself full of diazepam again?
 

j215_phi

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Idk I didn't see anyone saying they were snorting them...plus like you said anyone that knows anything about xanax knows that snorting it does nothing to enhance it
 

j215_phi

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don't waste your time

I am taking my new XR xanax BY THE BOOK, so if anyone has 1st hand experience with crushing (and taking) an XR pill, please let me know how this worked out. Preferably, I would like advice from someone who knows their reaction to xanax very well and doesn't have a huge tolerance (or knows how to account for it).

The bottle of XR says do not crush or chew. My doc said something like "the release mechanism of xanax XR is not like that of OC, so you can't abuse them." Is it possible that crushing the pill only slightly destroys the time release mechanism instead of almost entirely destroying it like that in oxy? A friend of mine took crushed a 2mg pill and reported poor results compared to a regular 2mg xanax bar. Unfortunately this kid doesn't understand all the factors involved in the effectiveness of xanax, so he could have eaten a full meal just before he took the crushed pill for all I know.

I think my doc was completely feeding me a line about the XR xanax not being worthy of abuse by crushing (he even mentioned not snorting it, but duh...). Obviously, my xanax dosing habits were in question before I got the script today. I just want to know if I can crush a 2mg XR pill and get nearly the same immediate up and down effects of IR xanax (dosage = ?)Thanks for your help. I really want and need to take my meds by the book, so I can't run an empirical test. Any pharmacists out there? Thanks a lot.

it's going to be such a minuscule difference don't waste your time it's just like when oxycontin switched to time released with out a seal but rather rock solid pills that have a gelling agent as a filler
 

maul91

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Benzo withdrawal, help

I am 5 months benzo free after qutting them in december. First two months I saw big improvements, third month and especially the fourth month was a nightmare, very bad anxiety 24/7. Last weeks it feels like I am back at beginning, like I didn't quit them at all. Symtoms coming back. What the hell is this? I'm going paranoid over food I ate, analyzing stuff I did etc to find a reason why it feels like I've been taking benzos for 5 month when I've been fucking clean for 5 months.

Anyone know what this is? Ive been 100% clean from all drugs. Not even a zip of alcohol, nothing. I've been trying to eat as healthy as possible, ive lost 44 pounds. Cutting down on sugar and caffeine etc. I exercise everyday which helps temporary with the depression. Please any advise?

Btw,I took Xanax, Lunesta, Valium, Flunitrazepam, Ambien etc... The first two my main drugs, the others I tried a couple of times. Took benzos for about 4 years but not daily, with several breaks anything from 2 weeks to 4 months. The longest I took benzos for without before CT was 6 months or something. I must have developed a huge tolerance at the end because 4 months of total abstain - still didn't work on me.

Well I am benzo free for good now.
 

shadowstryker

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Benzo tolerance didn't drop?

How long does it take for benzo tolerance to drop? It's been like 4 months clean and my Etizolam tolerance hasn't really changed.
 

IMtrying

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not for nothing but should have dropped a bit in those 4 months. how many MG's were you taking 4 months back?

I have a very low tolerance for benzos and usually only take .5 - 1MG xanny. thats once of twice a month we needed at most. once that month goes by I can go back down to .5 to put me back to bed w/o a problem.

w/ Etizolam I used to be able to put back 4-6MG; I only would buy a 2-3 week worth supply of those. then I'd let a month go by before buying anymore. after that I would go back down to 1-2MG to help me sleep at night. so it surly does drop but its all based on person to person and addiction to addiction, so its a matter of time, man. let more time pass and it will eventually drop w/o a doubt.
 

dirzted

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It seems you most likely have an anxiety disorder and although it was probably exacerbated by the benzodiazepines it still has lingered in you despite your honorable abstinence. To clarify however, you definitely are NOT feeling withdrawals, but you're having major anxiety episodes for the first time since your usage, creating an equally challenging scenario. I would encourage seeking professional help and perhaps starting on other, less abusable medication. Good luck tho I know how rough it can get with anxiety but just know that taking a pill will only make things worse, keep up with the exercise tho sounds like you've been doing everything right so far <3
 

mike.vick

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It seems you most likely have an anxiety disorder and although it was probably exacerbated by the benzodiazepines I disagree with this on more level then one, but firstly on a philosophical level, being that anxiety is fed by thinking about it and things like this. it still has lingered in you despite your honorable abstinence A non-proper taper can cause things to seem like they could possibly linger, but don't think like this, it's stupid. To clarify however, you definitely are NOT feeling withdrawals you don't know that but you're having major anxiety episodes for the first time since your usage,I wouldn't call them major or create any extra attention to things which shouldn't be. creating an equally challenging scenario. I would encourage seeking professional help and perhaps starting on other, less abusable medication. Ahh, sack up and get it together. Good luck tho I know how rough it can get with anxiety but just know that taking a pill will only make things worse, keep up with the exercise tho sounds like you've been doing everything right so far <3
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Raysu

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It can take a long time to readjust after coming off meds and rebound anxiety even worse than before happens though usually that is initially after stopping. I'd suggest if it's to the point where you are worrying over everything that you talk to your PCP or a counselor. There are meds besides benzos that can help and if you're sincere about not returning to using benzos explain to them why so they can better help you or at least lay some fears to rest about what is typical. I've had plenty of ups and downs and been on many drugs and long term benzo use and sometimes just admitting how I feel to a medical professional curbed some anxiety. Picking up healthy hobbies to distract me from thinking too much also was helpful to a degree.
 

xxwhxteleopard

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Considering benzodiazepines are treated for anxiety and panic, often 'short term' treatment option. You used them for 4 years recreationally! When I took Xanax, I railed tons and ended up taking more during the high without realizing. That was the 3rd time I took Xanax and I took so much that it was almost dangerous. 3 months later, I'm still suffering from horrible anxiety and depersonalization. That being said, I'm diagnosed with GAD. You, could very possibly be suffering from something as well. Just a guess though.
 

maul91

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Guys, I didn't express myself correctly. Im well aware the anxiety comes back. I have OCD on paper and I seriously think I have GAD. But that's okay, I can live with that as I've done in over 10 years. The weird thing is, the symtoms of Benzo withdrawal has come back last weeks. Tinnitus, dizzy vision, stiff neck, sleeping disturbances etc. and it scaring the shit out of me. Im thinking what if all these months was for nothing because I ate something bad etc. I've read about waves/setbacks that its normal for recovering but how exacly does that work?
 

shadowstryker

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Usually 3mg is my dose. Back when I was using often I took 40mg at one point, but it ended poorly with me in rehab.
 

Soulgasm

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A long-ass time. I think it's permanent to some extent. After six months or so with a healthy lifestyle, mine went back down to a point where a reasonable dose will quell panic/anxiety and have decent effects. 40mg of etiz at once is a hell of a dose though.
 

mike.vick

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^^ yeah i tooke like 20 one time by sheer recklessness and youth - I fell down the stares and think I got a concussion.
 

Speed King

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I took a few Etizo . I think they are great. My opinion is this, whoever said six months, or more, should start backing off their dose now. You better do everything else to help you out like eating vitamins and minerals, do some research into alternatives like nootropics. I'm a benzo user myself and I plan on lowering my usage, as an example of harm reduction. Back off your dose a tiny bit a week and you'll be fine. We're always here for shpport.
 
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Raysu

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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but some of the drug can end up being stored in fat cells and during detox saunas, hot showers, exercise is encouraged to sweat it out. Have you stepped up your workout? Maybe your body is eliminating what's in those fat cells now?
 

panic buss

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xanax xr is rediculous

I am taking my new XR xanax BY THE BOOK, so if anyone has 1st hand experience with crushing (and taking) an XR pill, please let me know how this worked out. Preferably, I would like advice from someone who knows their reaction to xanax very well and doesn't have a huge tolerance (or knows how to account for it).

The bottle of XR says do not crush or chew. My doc said something like "the release mechanism of xanax XR is not like that of OC, so you can't abuse them." Is it possible that crushing the pill only slightly destroys the time release mechanism instead of almost entirely destroying it like that in oxy? A friend of mine took crushed a 2mg pill and reported poor results compared to a regular 2mg xanax bar. Unfortunately this kid doesn't understand all the factors involved in the effectiveness of xanax, so he could have eaten a full meal just before he took the crushed pill for all I know.

I think my doc was completely feeding me a line about the XR xanax not being worthy of abuse by crushing (he even mentioned not snorting it, but duh...). Obviously, my xanax dosing habits were in question before I got the script today. I just want to know if I can crush a 2mg XR pill and get nearly the same immediate up and down effects of IR xanax (dosage = ?)Thanks for your help. I really want and need to take my meds by the book, so I can't run an empirical test. Any pharmacists out there? Thanks a lot.


all i know is that 60 2 mg xanax xr costs $800.00 supply and demand my ass whos gonna pay you over 13 a pill???????
 
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