Tried 4-FA for the first tme today and I must say... it's been pretty disappointing. This could have something to do with me using amphetamine every day for the past week or so, but... initially I dosed almost 200mg, (~190 to be exact) and, I guess I was expecting it to have the same kind of drive as straight amphetamine... but... I woke up this morning relatively clear headed, dosed 4-FA after sorting a few small things... and that was pretty much my day wiped out.
I redosed a few times - actually I've taken probably 400mg 4-FA today total, I think either my supposed "gram" was underweight, or my scales are off. Either is possible. But initially, I did not feel particularly good at all, just lethargic, sluggish, unable to do anything... this wore off as time went on (I've read tthat the effects of 4-FA can come in stages) but did not really at any point manifest into anything definitively good.
I've attempted to augment the experience with other milder substances - 40mg tianeptine (actually 200mg over the entire day), 200mg phenylpiracetam early on because I was just not enjoying the lethargy at all. 120mg noopept - I know this is a megadose but noopept megadoses if taken rarely I have always found to be quite anxiolytic and enjoyable. 800mg piracetam... and, just recently, 40mg Coluracetam and 40mg NSI-189. Risky combininig all these things with such a known drug - but honestly I just didn't think it was doing much of anything good.
Ended up buying 4 beers and am halfway through my 4th... but alcohol sucks and I forgot momentarily, so ended up relenting at the end of the day on my no goddamn benzos rule and took 20mg valium and 1mg etizolam. Feeling better now, but... no real amphetamine stimulation to speak of. Just now I did my last 60mg or so, having previously measured my blood pressure and HR, having read that this was a concern with 4-FA, potentially, in some people. and also just coz I have the required equipment. Came out as 117 / 75, so characteristicallly fairly normal. HR was actually 100... but could be to do with the beers I've been drinking.
Anyway so yeah in shiort I don't think I'll be getting any of this shit again. I was really curious about the flourinated amphetamines but with this particular one, my curiosity has been sated.
BUT, I see reports everywhere praising the stuff! What is happening here?
Either, I got a bad batch (possible)... my brain chemistry is just weird (also possible)... or... what?
Anyone here thoroughly enjoy 4-FA? Am I doing something wrong??
Been really craving ketamine recently, for some reason a good friend of mine who has never been into it betore (despite my best efforts, lol, as we've hung out a lot) randomly mentioned he'd be interested in trying it. And on this kind of day usually, rather than all the other shit... I'd just do a little ketamine and I feel like that would sort it.
Might end up breaking the promise to myself in my signature, I'll have to check how long it's been... but if I do, it's still a win.
Also been using benzos almost every day now for the last 2 or 3 weeks. Need to quit that ship ASAP. Think I am gonna get so gabapentin, just in case. I have some pregabalin but, IMO, it's just too stupefying for my liking.
I do wonder if these more chronically dangerous habits like amphetamine and multiple benzos might be somewhat cancel out some of the good effects. But even so, the effects are very disappointing.