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NEWS: The West - 12/03/09 'Suspected drug death raises fears of potent heroin'

I have noticed heroin in the news so much more recently than before. Overdoses in Sydney, Perth, Melbourne. It's really, really sad.

Is this due to heroin being cheaper/easier to acquire or are there other factors? One year ago i never heard about heroin, now i hear about people doing it so often
 
Seems to be the same now as it was last year and the year before that and the year before that one I'm pretty sure.

You always seem to get a strong batch that comes around from time to time though and that's when it gets publicity because most users/addicts will not test their deals and just whack there usual dose then it's all downhill from their...
 
kind of brings back the reality of using drugs..
each time is a risk. whether you're overdosing or taking a pill which could potentially contain a dangerous adulterant..the possibility of death is never discounted.
 
Somewhat-damaged said:
I have noticed heroin in the news so much more recently than before. Overdoses in Sydney, Perth, Melbourne. It's really, really sad.

Is this due to heroin being cheaper/easier to acquire or are there other factors? One year ago i never heard about heroin, now i hear about people doing it so often
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No availability discussion, but mushi is right. Whenever a strong batch comes around that hits a few people too hard the papers tend to report it then. If you take a look at some of the articles in The Courier Mail over the past week during their 'Drug Scourge' bit, you'll probably see someone or other mention that heroin use has never really climbed back to it's heights since the drought in the early 2000's, whilst methamphetamine use seems to have taken it's place. I for one don't hear smack being talked about much in Brisbane.
 
Saw my first OD in the Melbourne CBD last week in a long time... possibly not since the late-90s. This is all anecdotal but I would be interested to see some figures on 000 call-outs for heroin in the Melbourne CBD area for the last six & twelve months.
 
I went to a mates house down in NSW yesterday to find out he has been booked into rehab for 9 - 12 months. Now he has been a heavy heroin user since he was 20 (now he's 31) but that's not what he's going to rehab for this time, he's in their this time for the drugs they give you to kick it mainly OCs and Valium, he's having more trouble kicking that then he has had kicking his heroin habit...

It's definitely still around just not as widely spoken about, if you want it you can easily find it within a week or less if you've got the right contacts...
 
they gave a friend of yours who is addicted to heroin, oxycontin and valium to get off of the heroin? am i reading that right?
 
troubling, no?

my scumbag ex was taking bupe, and his dr. was more than happy to give him scripts for all kinds of other shit - valium, zyprexa, tramadol...

i think they cracked down on it towards the end, and with any luck he is lying decomposing in a hole somewhere.
 
^ Valium I can see being used for anxiety purposes if needed. Zyprexa is not recreational as far as I know, and your ex may have needed it for treatment of mental illness. Tramadol he may have needed for pain relief, and since it works not only through the opioid receptors but through NE, 5-HT and possibly GABA, would have been one of the few analgesics that would have worked in conjunction with buprenorphine which will prevent opioid analgesics from working.

I don't know why they would use oxycodone to help a heroin addict out though; hearing from addicts trying to quit in OD it sounds like replacing one full agonist with another doesn't usually work too well when quitting.
 
^ Valium I can see being used for anxiety purposes if needed. Zyprexa is not recreational as far as I know, and your ex may have needed it for treatment of mental illness. Tramadol he may have needed for pain relief, and since it works not only through the opioid receptors but through NE, 5-HT and possibly GABA, would have been one of the few analgesics that would have worked in conjunction with buprenorphine which will prevent opioid analgesics from working.
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Mental illness he did have a propensity towards, but it was ice-induced psychosis more than anything else. He kept taking them because they apparently 'helped him get to sleep', a problem I'm sure he would not have had, if he wasn't shooting up so much gear at the time. The point with the scripts was all he had to say was doc was 'jump' and he doc's response was 'how high' - I think some docs feel the need to placate junkies, it's bizarre.
 
^Most doctors are right cunts to people referred to as "junkies". I really don't like that term - it's far too generalizing, and everyone has a different opinion of what junkie really is. It all depends on people you know, what you've done yourself, and how you rate others in better/worse positions with drugs.

Back on the doctor note; Withdrawal specialists can tend to see through most addicts habits, and will prescribe valium and what not in declining dosages, with daily/weekly pickups so they cant be abused so much.

I honestly think this forum should ban the term junkie, because by my reckoning, anyone who indulges in drugs for fun is a junkie in some way/shape or form. Same can be said for video game addicts, tv addicts, gambling addicts... they're all just as damaging to society/others. Drugs just carry that illegal stigma.
 
well if you knew what bupe was used to treat - you might have see how the term was used in its appropriate context. :)

and people who engage in recreational use are not junkies. junkies live by the habit - it is a day, in day out, year in, year out lifestyle that the term connotes. drug dependency and drug addiction are two very different ball games.
 
MrIbis said:
I honestly think this forum should ban the term junkie, because by my reckoning, anyone who indulges in drugs for fun is a junkie in some way/shape or form. Same can be said for video game addicts, tv addicts, gambling addicts... they're all just as damaging to society/others. Drugs just carry that illegal stigma.
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I understand your concern and I'm pretty sure I've never used that term on BL (in anything approaching a serious context) but I don't think more censorship is going to help. Judgemental people exist everywhere, even on a forum of drug users. Outlawing one word won't change what those people believe. :\
 
I reckon it would have been homebake, I know theres a lot more homebake down south and out west than the usual asian/afgan H we get in Sydney and melbourne(possibly brissy not sure)

Yeah it is sad, my cousin died of a H OD in Sydney on Christmas eve.

My innerself, I dont want to encourage the use of H but if your dead set on trying it just give smoking a go, you should be fine.

Every time ive ever shot H I do half of what I get just to be sure and most times the first shot does nothing then I do the second and im good, but its pretty unusual to get really good stuff and it usually is the junkies who've been getting shit or havent been yusing for awhile therefor tolerance has gone down and they do a normal shot and bang theyre gone. If you do decide to shoot it get enough to smoke some first, wait till its completely worn off and shoot a third of what you smoked, take your time with the plunger too, dont just slam it down, do it over a few seconds. Most of all be careful, I dont think ill ever shoot H again because I hate testing it first by smoking(such a waste for me) so I just dont bother. If you really wanna try shooting an opiate get a micron fiter and do some morphine or oxy, I know I shouldnt be suggesting it but IMO IV morphine is better than most H anyway, oxy not so much but you still get the feel for what IV opiates do.
 
seriously...heroin is way better than morphine with the rush....once in the body heroin turns into morph anyway but its all about the journey....man : )

i wouldnt recomend using opiates to anyone though.
 

Heroin spike puts medics on alert
By Kate Sikora
The Daily Telegraph
June 01, 2009 12:01am

HEROIN is back on the streets of Sydney, sparking fears society will soon have to brace itself for the return of daily overdoses.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the deadly and highly addictive drug is re-emerging and its use increasing after almost a 10-year drought.

Paramedics and emergency department doctors are beginning to treat an increasing number of addicts who have overdosed on heroin.

Its usage in Sydney has slowly been increasing over the past six months.

Amphetamines and ice continued to remain cheap and popular among users, but heroin has been branded "a main player" again.

St Vincent's Hospital emergency director Dr Gordian Fulde warned of the return of daily overdoses.

"It's on an increasing incline," he said. "It's been back for more than six months but it's nothing like what it used to be like in the bad old days."

Heroin use peaked in the late 1990s but began to decline as the war in Afghanistan and a crackdown by Australian police tightened the market.

With heroin use came an increase in crime.

Bureau of Crime statistics and research last year reported about a 25 per cent jump in possession and use of heroin.

Dr Fulde said the drug had never left the streets but more users were needing medical help.

"It will never go away completely," he said.

"We are seeing it more ... it used to be zilch about 12 months ago."

Experts were unclear as to exactly why the spike was occurring but believed heroin's availability had increased and the price was cheaper.

Addicts unpractised in using heroin probably were overdosing due to its strength - and thus being recorded as seeking help -- Dr Fulde said.

Most concerning was the level of drug use. Addicts are making powerful and deadly cocktails by mixing ice with heroin.

Sydney paramedic Sandy Macken said treating drug users was becoming increasingly difficult due to the mixing of drugs they were taking.

"It is very hard to sedate them and instead of using 10mg we might have to use 30 mg ," she said.

"We are having to administer Narcan a sedative more frequently."

News.com.au
 
what a load of shite that article is ^ narcan, a sedative takes the cake!

heroin is a depressant, why would you give them another depressant?
 
There was a "heroin lab" busted that was on the gold coast 9 news just before I joined. They found glassware and what was believed to be synthetic heroin... Don't know if it was H, fentanyl analogues or he wasn't doing any synth and was just a chemist that liked to play around. If anyone could find the news to this as I cant on the web it would be great as a lot of deaths happened a few months before
 
my innerself said:
"Police were called to the station at 6am after the 24-year-old woman’s body was found by a passer-by."

OMG, thats terrible, 24 is way to young to die.

I have been organising myself a shot of heroin (my first heroin shot) for the past 2 weeks, which was going to go ahead this Saturday. I've been liasing with a Heroin user about this and had it all set up. Im definately not going to touch the stuff, not now. This is exactly the thing I was worried about and have been researching the drug alot recently so I could have all my bases covered. Its definately not worth the risk.
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Make sure you 'taste' the shot, too. That is, plunge half-way, wait a few seconds to test its strength, then withdraw or finish the shot.
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ Valium I can see being used for anxiety purposes if needed. Zyprexa is not recreational as far as I know, and your ex may have needed it for treatment of mental illness. Tramadol he may have needed for pain relief, and since it works not only through the opioid receptors but through NE, 5-HT and possibly GABA, would have been one of the few analgesics that would have worked in conjunction with buprenorphine which will prevent opioid analgesics from working.

I don't know why they would use oxycodone to help a heroin addict out though; hearing from addicts trying to quit in OD it sounds like replacing one full agonist with another doesn't usually work too well when quitting.
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I was on Zyprexa for bipolar disorder - it's an anti-psychotic. Not a bad rec drug if you drop with Val or other drugs and booze. It made me fat, though, so I've been switched to quietapine (Seroquel) which doesn't make you fat but is a rather unpleasant high.
 
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