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Misc Interesting Article on Addiction

cowboycurtis

cowboycurtis

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Does this article piss me off because I'm one of the ones that need multiple treatments and still fucking up well into my late 20's or is it because this article is dead-wrong? Author seems a bit uninformed on statistics or at least they experienced some kind of anomaly in their addiction. What do you guys think?

www.drugfoundation.org.nz

Most people with addiction simply grow out of it: why is this widely denied?

The idea that addiction is typically a chronic, progressive disease that requires treatment is false, the evidence shows.
www.drugfoundation.org.nz www.drugfoundation.org.nz
 
"There are many paths to recovery – and if we want to help people get there, we need to explore all of them. That means recognising that natural recovery exists – and not dismissing data we don’t like." - artcl. quote

It is a mystery ! Maybe the power of the Lord could help.

It is a possible advance to certain pathways of science and the study of pathways that can be redirected !! And also so that the mind and stimulus can be expanded and redirected.

So it seems in opinions and of many projects of research too.

S I do think a strong mind that has faith can help and be a most wonderful strength. ♡
 
A family clinic doctor that was new in community local gave me a prescription for Fuckin cant evven remember the name

fuck it let me say prayers

i cant even remember all this shits name.
so now i remembered. he wrote me a prescription for tramadol

I told him i didn't want it because i get really sick off of it like i do from a muscle relaxer also.

he said cant give you pain pills. i asked him if he is afraid of the government and he got really angry and mad at me and said " i am not going to discuss politics with you" !!

so i found more idiots that are willing to give me more garbage in powdered gabapentin capsules now.

I have to find a nice pain management location and get to it asap.

gabapentin is just like a bad trip or me with pretty colors and enhanced everything including short-fused murmuring.

Back o.t. triggered

baby asprin has more benifits than gabapentin.
unless the gabapentin is being used for a specific reason. But it does not work for pain for me specifically.
 
Now. Seriously, perhaps there is a bit of truth to the article.

But have I thought that we just don't replace one addiction with another? Before my abuse of my prescription drug I was addicted to exercise and healthy eating. Bordering on mental insanity (counting macros from caffeine :ROFLMAO: ). Maybe after I finished my drug addiction, I ended up addicted to gambling or who knows what.

There was a time when I was addicted to pornography (15-18 years) and stealing (kleptomania) and eventually I grow out of it but I ended up replacing them with others.

Maybe I'm talking rubbish but I wanted to reply anyway lol.
 
Certainly not saying these people don't exist. I know a few personally. What I'm disagreeing with is that this is the norm.
 
I guess it's an HR forum but regarding addiction there's no way to predict anything. One junkie for lifer suddenly became clean after a year of decade long dysfunctional heroin use while the other percocet user on a once in a blue moon turned into the same junkie for lifer. It happens quite a bit and vice versa. Sometimes the only thing that works is to let things run their course and there are far worse things in the world one can do--but somehow the guilt over substance abuse is very powerful. So many worse things out there but society shames addicts so heavily to the point that it can become literally impossible to defeat psychologically?

Nothing like somehow being possessed by a demon and not able to control your own actions while vividly watching it happen over and over. It is actually horrifying. At some point everyone has to take credibility for their own actions but it feels like at times a user has zero control. Regardless as long as anyone doesn't stop trying or OD there's always that chance. It is not acknowledged how often random relapses occur. People lie about that and for a good reason. But I'm beginning to think barely anyone did not relapse here and there when it comes to sobriety.
 
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Maybe I talks shit, but I think addiction (or those who cannot overcome it) and depression are very closely linked. That is why there is an urgent need for much more effective ADs. At least SSRIs have never worked well for me (sertraline, fluoxetine, and escitalopram).

GetMeOutOfThisCRAP said:
I guess it's an HR forum but regarding addiction there's no way to predict anything. One junkie for lifer suddenly became clean after a year of decade long dysfunctional heroin use while the other percocet user on a once in a blue moon turned into the same junkie for lifer. It happens quite a bit and vice versa. Sometimes the only thing that works is to let things run their course and there are far worse things in the world one can do--but somehow the guilt over substance abuse is very powerful. So many worse things out there but society shames addicts so heavily to the point that it can become literally impossible to defeat psychologically?

Nothing like somehow being possessed by a demon and not able to control your own actions while vividly watching it happen over and over. It is actually horrifying. At some point everyone has to take credibility for their own actions but it feels like at times a user has zero control. Regardless as long as anyone doesn't stop trying or OD there's always that chance. It is not acknowledged how often random relapses occur. People lie about that and for a good reason. But I'm beginning to think barely anyone did not relapse here and there when it comes to sobriety.
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How much truth in this. There are people doing things a thousand times worse without even feeling remorse about it.
 
There's always someone worse off than you. I'm as guilty of comparative suffering as the next guy, but it does no one any good. Everyone's journey is their own.

And if you go no one may follow
That path is for your steps alone
 
I think, for me, the silliness of this article really lies in its effort to quantify the lengths of different addictions to so absolute a figure. There might be some statistical truth to those numbers, but they seem rather arbitrary.
 
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