Mental Health Experince with autism

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Have recently been diagnosed as on the autism spectrum. So many things finally made sense. I used to think i had like 10 different issues- anxiety, agoraphobia, body dysmorphia, ADHD, etc, but it seems like it may all just be weird manifestations of autism, intermingled with PTSD and addiction. I made it to 29 without being diagnosed by being a flawless actor. Now I'm realizing that's a massive hindrance, as now I can't drop the mask even if I try, so it's hard to communicate my true problems with a therapist


I guess my question is: anyone have any experiences with things they found helpful? How to meet an autistic community? Career choices? Addiction treatment for autistic people? Therapy methods that make communication issues easier?

Another conflict I have is "coming out" to my parents. Long story short, my parents have lots of experience with autism, and because I was such a great actor for most of my childhood, will likely not believe what I tell them, because I hid "traditional" signs, which makes for an awkward conversation. My mom will likely never accept it, so I've accepted that i probably will never tell her, but i would like to tell my dad, who i am closer to, and who is more open minded
 
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Have recently been diagnosed as on the autism spectrum. So many things finally made sense. I used to think i had like 10 different issues- anxiety, agoraphobia, body dysmorphia, ADHD, etc, but it seems like it may all just be weird manifestations of autism, intermingled with PTSD and addiction. I made it to 29 without being diagnosed by being a flawless actor. Now I'm realizing that's a massive hindrance, as now I can't drop the mask even if I try, so it's hard to communicate my true problems with a therapist


I guess my question is: anyone have any experiences with things they found helpful? How to meet an autistic community? Career choices? Addiction treatment for autistic people? Therapy methods that make communication issues easier?

Another conflict I have is "coming out" to my parents. Long story short, my parents have lots of experience with autism, and because I was such a great actor for most of my childhood, will likely not believe what I tell them, because I hid "traditional" signs, which makes for an awkward conversation. My mom will likely never accept it, so I've accepted that i probably will never tell her, but i would like to tell my dad, who i am closer to, and who is more open minded
Things that have helped me has been learning to play the guitar, singing, writing my own music. Learn to do something like knitting, carpentry. something that’s tactile with your hands artwork etc. explore, be creative, learn how to do something so you can support yourself with by selling it on Etsy! The sky is the limit! Search online in your local community for an autism Society in your state, city or county. go to meet up.com and see if you can find autism meet up groups for adults. My heart goes out to you. I’m 37 years of age and a female. I had body dysmorphic disorder in my 20s I had self harm in my 20s that was very scary nearly killed me more than once. I was self harm free for about three years but in the last year and a half I’ve started struggling with it again. As to the addiction aspect of autism and treatment for those that are autistic with addictions I have no suggestions in that arena because any assistance I have received where I live has been unfortunately very biased toward me because I am white,I’m well spoken and I am a Christian. I wish that wasn’t the case but it is. 😣
 
I have Asperger’s. It was noticed when I was 19 when I was seeing a counselor about alcohol (long story). I struggle a lot with sensory overload and anxiety. I have a hard time going shopping or to restaurants because of everything going on. For a long time, I drank to cope with it. Things that have helped me are mostly being aware of myself and my needs. I know I need a lot of alone time to recenter, especially after spending time with people or in public. I get really irritable when I don’t get my quiet time. Showers are a good escape to start with.
 
I guess my question is: anyone have any experiences with things they found helpful? How to meet an autistic community? Career choices? Addiction treatment for autistic people? Therapy methods that make communication issues easier?
i found the diagnosis helped me stop being so hard on myself for just not being able to do stuff well that other people find easy. i was diagnosed in rehab at 32 so it was too late to influence my career choices, but i was pretty stereotypical.... physics, maths, computer science. working in that area means that most people are somewhere on the spectrum, some more than others. i find them easier to cope with.

tbh i haven't looked for any therapy that makes things easier. but one thing i do that has made things easier is say at interview that i am autistic, a lot more than i seem (women present very differently to what people expect) and that therefore i struggle to cope with excessive meetings, i need communication to be very clear, especially around tasks i'm expected to complete, and that i can be extremely blunt so if i say anything unprofessional or inappropriate please just let me know and i will learn from it (i can't bring myself to say that i learn etiquette by fucking up cos its a bit embarassing still not fully understanding how to behave in your mid 30s). my current employer took this very seriously and has generally been amazing. its really helped me be able to concentrate on doing my job well rather than waste energy on things that don't help my actual work objectives.

Another conflict I have is "coming out" to my parents. Long story short, my parents have lots of experience with autism, and because I was such a great actor for most of my childhood, will likely not believe what I tell them, because I hid "traditional" signs, which makes for an awkward conversation. My mom will likely never accept it, so I've accepted that i probably will never tell her, but i would like to tell my dad, who i am closer to, and who is more open minded
totally feel you on your parents. mine knew when i got the diagnosis cos they needed to complete the diagnostic questionnaire independently of me. that was brutal i didn't realise they thought i was so weird until i saw their answers. my mum still thinks that i should just magically learn how to fit in with how she thinks i should behave. i tell her she should just learn not to have type 1 diabetes, doesn't go down well but what the fuck am i supposed to say?!?!? oh yes i have a condition that is 80% genetic i'll just learn not to have it. like if i could i fucking would being a fucking weird awkward freak my whole life hasn't exactly made things easier. not to say that i think that of all autistic people, i'm certainly not suggesting it of you.

you don't have to tell her if you don't think it will be useful. hopefully your dad will respect your decision not to tell her.

do you feel any sense of relief?

the hardest thing i find is autistic meltdowns. i am quite good at avoiding situations where sensory overload is likely to be an issue after ending up stuck in a cave with weird coloured lights a few years ago. but ones caused by emotional overload are still basically unmanageable. i am more prone to them when i'm tired, but most of the time i can't control that. they are exhausting and embarassing and have a very negative impact on my interpersonal relationships. i'm still half convinced that i am just using it as an excuse for being a massive bitch. i've looked for resources on managing them but not found much of use, if you have an issue with these and find anything useful i'd be really grateful if you could share.

also, one day when i was being particularly harsh on myself about the impact of autism on my life, a friend of mine with an autistic son told me she thinks we are the next stage of human evolution. i don't care if that's factual (i doubt it for very low functioniing autism), it was a really refreshing perspective and i've felt better about it ever since.
 
I currently have a case manager for my therapy needs. Covid makes it hard to get a referral, atm. I was able to work through a lot of my major traumatic issues with my case manager by simply being vulnerable. But there's a lot of gridwork to it too, yaknow? In order to make a change I had to be open to it and prepared soul-wise, which for me required a lot of meditation and quantum thinking. I felt changes from one "therapy" session in particular where I was able to strip away all the layers of abuse from my ex-girlfriend.

In my past experiences with therapy I did not have as much success. and I blame myself. If I had put in the necessary commitments to change my thinking and my emotional state, I would have made better gains. Those days of therapy was a lot of going in without a whole lot of knowing what to talk about. Needless to say, I wasn't actively working on bettering myself. I honestly didn't know how. I was stuck in a rut.
 
I was diagnosed with level 3 autism in around August last year after getting really severe autistic burnout.

I haven't found anything to help specifically with treatment for addiction, but I've found things like occupational therapy and speech therapy and psychology for autism really useful, though I'm lucky as it's funded by my government where I'm from.

The biggest help I've found has been connecting with other autistic people, particularly late diagnosed people who have experienced going through life without a diagnosis. If you want to reach out, feel free!
 
I was diagnosed with level 3 autism in around August last year after getting really severe autistic burnout.

I haven't found anything to help specifically with treatment for addiction, but I've found things like occupational therapy and speech therapy and psychology for autism really useful, though I'm lucky as it's funded by my government where I'm from.

The biggest help I've found has been connecting with other autistic people, particularly late diagnosed people who have experienced going through life without a diagnosis. If you want to reach out, feel free!
I have Asperger's and was diagnosed in my mid 20's. I've never heard of levels. Therapy helps. Find a therapist with experience with Autism.
I guess it's now called Level 1. High functioning Autism. Level 3 would be sever symptoms where you need help with day to day activities like getting dressed and eating. Makes me think you don't have Level 3 if you're functioning enough to use the website and even attempt to reach out to other people.
 
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I have Asperger's and was diagnosed in my mid 20's. I've never heard of levels. Therapy helps. Find a therapist with experience with Autism.
I guess it's now called Level 1. High functioning Autism. Level 3 would be sever symptoms where you need help with day to day activities like getting dressed and eating. Makes me think you don't have Level 3 if you're functioning enough to use the website and even attempt to reach out to other people.
That seems like a fairly typical answer from someone who doesn't actually understand levels, which you wouldn't given that you're using 'high and low functioning' which were never official autism diagnoses.

And they're detrimental to autistic people. 'high functioning' was assigned to Aspergers, those who could work and be productive members of society. Autism with no intellectual disability.

'low functioning' was for those stupid non verbal idiot people who we have to take care of. Autistic disorder - autism with an intellectual disability.

Under the old diagnostic criteria I would have been labelled as Aspergers. But you and I have a very different level of impairment. I need one to one support with every single daily living activity - medication, showering, dressing in clean clothes, eating every meal, tidying my apartment, washing my dishes, socially interacting with a group of people. I cannot, as you said, live independently and I receive 30 hours of 1-1 support paid for by my countries government to support me. I was assessed properly, by a specialist in the area, and given a level 3 tier label.

Levels do not refer to what you can or can't do. In any case, I'm often non verbal in person and have severe sensory issues to the extent that showering is painful and I can only eat the exact same brand and flavour of honey yoghurt for breakfast for the past 1.5 years. I have to order my socks online so they don't have seams, and sleep in special blankets. I constantly wear ear and eye protection. Levels refer to my support needs, not my functioning.

Level one is 'requires support' which is not a lot.

Level 2 is 'requires substantial support' which is a fair amount

Level 3 is 'requires very substantial support'

Again, I literally require 1-1 prompting or full assistance with regard to any and all activities of daily living. I am unable to survive independently. I exist because of my support workers.

They changed to levels because they realised, rightfully so, that Aspergers was catching too many people in a 'high functioning' label who were really struggling, like I myself do. Can you honestly sit there after I've told you all the stuff I can't do independently and tell me I'm high functioning or not level 3 because I can use a computer? Do you really think that little of us autistic people who need support to function better? Like we all have to be completely stupid or something.

*Most* level 3 people have co-morbidities such as severe, moderate or mild intellectual disability, movement disorders, speech delay. I don't have any other developmental issues. What you're describing as level 3 autism in them is a cluster fuck of various different developmental issues. I just have the autism.

So you need to view it as just the autism, and not throw all the other stuff in too, because that isn't what level 3 looks like.

Level 3 people don't always have a voice, but this level 3 guy does and I really am not a fan of your tone. Why the hell would I lie about that? I literally have a diagnostic letter and 25 page full assessment written going into extreme detail about my autism. Hey I hung out with this gay guy and did meth with him tonight and he said 'you are obviously highly intelligent but you clearly have severe autism' so uh yeah my dude, just because my brain isn't mush doesn't mean I'm not level 3?

'level 3 guy use computer. Level 3 guy not acting retarded enough for 'high functioning' Asperger's man to agree with his diagnosis. All level 3 people must be dumb because we are better than them due to being high functioning. Level 3 and low functioning people are all useless and can't do anything or achieve anything, unless high functioning Aspergers people.

Sorry, but there isn't actually a tiny bit of difference between your brain and my brain. I'm just as smart, in fact I have a law degree (from when I was level 1 before I burnt out severely) so I've probably achieved more. But hey, can't let a 'low functioning' guy seem like he's managing better. That just wouldn't be fair, we have to maintain the sense of superiority over the stupid ones.

If you and I are actually the same except for the one fact of how much support we each require to live our lives, how can you view yourself as better than non verbal autistic people? Ido Kedar is non verbal, he was forced into ABA as a child before his mum pulled him out and got him a letterboard. Boom. Communication. Graduated valedictorian of his honours mainstream classes at highschool and published 3 books.

And he was called low functioning. How about that.

Like sorry I keep coming back to this. I am actually astounded that you said what you said. To imply that because I try to enagage with people online using a computer I cannot be high functioning. Is it not possible that I am both able to utilise technology but simultaneously have poor ability to understand tasks of daily living. My WHODAS (global disability score) was 70%. I scored in 'severely impaired' in every category but mobilisation and 'extreme impairment' for community and social access. My score was severe overall. I scored 4/8 with an independent life skills questionnaire, and the things I was able to do independently were book a cab or an uber, take my medication if reminded, operate my phone. And I scored far far lower than the average within my demographic in all areas of social inclusion (in person and electronic), home integration, productivity, and some other area.

It's actually so fucking annoying when other autistic people say the same shit that government services use to deny me the support I need. If I'm seen as too smart by the agency that does my funding, I lose part of it, especially if I advocate for myself, god forbid, like some kind of assertive autistic person. No, my intelligence has time and time again resulted in supports denied. Because people lump me in with your lot who have little to no huge impact of autism on your life and could manage without the label and probably get away with not telling people, when I actually need support workers to go 'actually Eli you have to change that shirt it's got yoghurt and coffee on it. And maybe have a shower. Have you brushed your teeth and had your meds? Oh you haven't even had breakfast? Okay let's start there's when they walk into my house.

But I'm smart. So I can't be level 3.

When I got diagnosed and I told people the vast majority of friends and people u knew were like 'you didn't already have a diagnosis?' or said things like 'you did always seem a bit Aspergers' or some of them congratulated me for finally going through with it. When people meet me it's not a matter of them finding out if I'm autistic, it's a matter of when and to what degree, dependent on the effort I will put into masking.

I masked (covered up) my autism for 20 years because I was smart and self aware enough to know that doing the things I did and acting that way made me not get any friends. So I stopped. And I studied people and learnt their exact behaviours, emotions, and script. Life is a script to me, and everyone follows it. It's predictable. And I can usually stay one step ahead on a good day and make it seem like I know what I'm doing. But it comes at a huge fucking cost to my energy levels. Acting like I don't have sensory issues and trying to cover up and compensate for my social deficits broke me eventually and I wasn't able to do it anymore. So I used to be level 1, when I masked it. When I stopped masking I became tiered at level 3. An obvious consequence of not masking.

My life is far better for it. But holy shit I wish neurotypical people and other autistic people would understand that levels don't refer to literally what someone is or is not capable of doing like writing or speaking, gets that often there are other developmental disabilities muddle up there, and realise that functional labels are harmful.
 
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Makes me think you don't have Level 3 if you're functioning enough to use the website and even attempt to reach out to other people.
As @Eligiu said, that isn't how it works. You can have severe autism and sensory issues and still be able to use a computer and talk to others through said computer.

I've spoken to Eli on voice chat before and he's definitely autistic. I don't think it is our place to judge which Level he fits into. And I don't think that anyone would bother lying about which level of Autism they have.
 
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As @Eligiu said, that isn't how it works. You can have severe autism and sensory issues and still be able to use a computer and talk to others through said computer.

I've spoken to Eli on voice chat before and he's definitely autistic. I don't think it is our place to judge which Level he fits into. And I don't think that anyone would bother lying about which level of Autism they have.
Truthfully no one who isn't a developmental psychologist with 15 years experience in diagnosing women and transgender people as adults who have masked their whole lives has any ability to tell me what level I am.

I don't need anyone but the government funding place to believe me and if random internet stranger wants to say in their first sentence that they don't know anything about levels then proceed to be loudly and unmistakably wrong about levels that is sort of just hilarious to me.

But no one who interacts with me leaves thinking they just left a discussion with a neurotypical person. The extent to which you or Arrall or anyone else will perceive my level of autism revolves around the simple factor of how much effort I am willing to expend in covering up an intricate part of who I am. Most of the time these days, I tend to not bother much at all because I truly do not have the energy to do so, so when people talk to me over voice chat they often get an info-dump of over-explained overly verbose and extremely detailed irrelevant nonsense while they wait for the opportunity to interject and change the topic.

And yet still, none of that has anything to do with my ability to type words into a computer. Like you do realise loads of non verbal level 3 autistic people use alternative communication methods like text to speech apps and letterboards to socially connect with people? And they often start to thrive when that happens? Me and my non verbal client *do* communicate, just not in spoken words. We do it over our actions instead.

I think you have an extremely specific view of autism my friend, not Arrall. Directed at the guy who responded to me. Please learn more about it before you throw higher needs people under the proverbial bus.
 
Have recently been diagnosed as on the autism spectrum. So many things finally made sense. I used to think i had like 10 different issues- anxiety, agoraphobia, body dysmorphia, ADHD, etc, but it seems like it may all just be weird manifestations of autism, intermingled with PTSD and addiction. I made it to 29 without being diagnosed by being a flawless actor. Now I'm realizing that's a massive hindrance, as now I can't drop the mask even if I try, so it's hard to communicate my true problems with a therapist


I guess my question is: anyone have any experiences with things they found helpful? How to meet an autistic community? Career choices? Addiction treatment for autistic people? Therapy methods that make communication issues easier?

Another conflict I have is "coming out" to my parents. Long story short, my parents have lots of experience with autism, and because I was such a great actor for most of my childhood, will likely not believe what I tell them, because I hid "traditional" signs, which makes for an awkward conversation. My mom will likely never accept it, so I've accepted that i probably will never tell her, but i would like to tell my dad, who i am closer to, and who is more open minded
Since you've been "diagnosed", shouldn't there be papers from the dr. That corroborate this? Why wouldn't they trust you? Makes no sense to me, if your parents love you they will trust you and accept your condition.youre drowning on a glass of water man. Don't get anxious for nothing, wait for their response first.
 
Since you've been "diagnosed", shouldn't there be papers from the dr. That corroborate this? Why wouldn't they trust you? Makes no sense to me, if your parents love you they will trust you and accept your condition.youre drowning on a glass of water man. Don't get anxious for nothing, wait for their response first.
My parents didn't support me getting an assessment done because I am 'nothing like my cousins who are autistic' (hellloo it's a spectrum we are all different) and it literally took until I had a phone call with my mum and told her I didn't blame her for missing the obvious sensory issues I had as a kid because being assigned female at birth, I would never have been picked up for autism 20 years ago unlike how I would have if I'd been assigned male at birth.

My dad was still pretty against it. And he remained so for a really, really long time. Even when I got my diagnostic letter and assessment and everything was official, he would make comments about things I could do some days but couldn't do others and question how I could be level 3 when other people who are level 3 struggle more.

And again, it's a spectrum. If you view level 1 to 3 on one spectrum, then within levels 1 to 3 as their own spectrums it's easier to see how I can exist as a level 3 who is closer to level 2 socially than I am the upper end of level 3. I'm still level 3 though.

And weirdly, my dad has now started saying he's autistic too which he's never done before.

This person has just gotten a life changing diagnosis and it massively can change how they view themselves and the world around them. It makes you wonder how much of your personality the whole time has actually been you or a person you pretended to be so that others would like you. Being diagnosed as an adult means you often also miss out on all therapy interventions, depending on where you live. You're basically stuck how you are, with a bit of paper which states you are autistic and that means you have a lot of unpacking to do of everything you do in your life so you can figure out what was masking and what was actually the autism.

And you will lose friends. People will decide when you stop masking that no, they actually aren't as cool with autistic people as they thought they were sorry. No hard feelings right, it's just you were easier to get along with when you were less you know, obviously special.

You discover amazing things about yourself and new gifts and maybe things about you that you love. I love my honesty, my directness and my desire to make the world a better place through advocacy in any way I can. I like my logical mind and my ways of being organised.

But you also find out things you hate. I hate hyperfixating on things. I hate my rigidity. I hate that I can't adjust my schedule. I hate that I can't eat more than a handful of foods or eat at a restaurant. I hate that if one meeting or appointment gets cancelled then my whole day is a complete disaster and I cannot fix it.

It's huge news man. I know what this person is going through because I've been through it myself. The absolute best thing I've found has been connecting with other late diagnosed people who experienced the same thing as me. Not people diagnosed as children. Meeting up, calling on the phone. Talking about our experiences. Also chatting to people who have the same tiered level so U can judge my progress.

Autistic people yearn to feel connected with others, we just often approach it the wrong way and it kind of falls apart when we get told we did it wrong. I get very lonely. But I often don't want to make any new friends, I just want to be stubborn and have my old friends back because I'm set in my ways. Just because we want time to ourselves often doesn't make us non social creatures. It's a very common misconception. I think having a big autism thread on the discord where people could link up would be a great idea.
 
That seems like a fairly typical answer from someone who doesn't actually understand levels, which you wouldn't given that you're using 'high and low functioning' which were never official autism diagnoses.

And they're detrimental to autistic people. 'high functioning' was assigned to Aspergers, those who could work and be productive members of society. Autism with no intellectual disability.

'low functioning' was for those stupid non verbal idiot people who we have to take care of. Autistic disorder - autism with an intellectual disability.

Under the old diagnostic criteria I would have been labelled as Aspergers. But you and I have a very different level of impairment. I need one to one support with every single daily living activity - medication, showering, dressing in clean clothes, eating every meal, tidying my apartment, washing my dishes, socially interacting with a group of people. I cannot, as you said, live independently and I receive 30 hours of 1-1 support paid for by my countries government to support me. I was assessed properly, by a specialist in the area, and given a level 3 tier label.

Levels do not refer to what you can or can't do. In any case, I'm often non verbal in person and have severe sensory issues to the extent that showering is painful and I can only eat the exact same brand and flavour of honey yoghurt for breakfast for the past 1.5 years. I have to order my socks online so they don't have seams, and sleep in special blankets. I constantly wear ear and eye protection. Levels refer to my support needs, not my functioning.

Level one is 'requires support' which is not a lot.

Level 2 is 'requires substantial support' which is a fair amount

Level 3 is 'requires very substantial support'

Again, I literally require 1-1 prompting or full assistance with regard to any and all activities of daily living. I am unable to survive independently. I exist because of my support workers.

They changed to levels because they realised, rightfully so, that Aspergers was catching too many people in a 'high functioning' label who were really struggling, like I myself do. Can you honestly sit there after I've told you all the stuff I can't do independently and tell me I'm high functioning or not level 3 because I can use a computer? Do you really think that little of us autistic people who need support to function better? Like we all have to be completely stupid or something.

*Most* level 3 people have co-morbidities such as severe, moderate or mild intellectual disability, movement disorders, speech delay. I don't have any other developmental issues. What you're describing as level 3 autism in them is a cluster fuck of various different developmental issues. I just have the autism.

So you need to view it as just the autism, and not throw all the other stuff in too, because that isn't what level 3 looks like.

Level 3 people don't always have a voice, but this level 3 guy does and I really am not a fan of your tone. Why the hell would I lie about that? I literally have a diagnostic letter and 25 page full assessment written going into extreme detail about my autism. Hey I hung out with this gay guy and did meth with him tonight and he said 'you are obviously highly intelligent but you clearly have severe autism' so uh yeah my dude, just because my brain isn't mush doesn't mean I'm not level 3?

'level 3 guy use computer. Level 3 guy not acting retarded enough for 'high functioning' Asperger's man to agree with his diagnosis. All level 3 people must be dumb because we are better than them due to being high functioning. Level 3 and low functioning people are all useless and can't do anything or achieve anything, unless high functioning Aspergers people.

Sorry, but there isn't actually a tiny bit of difference between your brain and my brain. I'm just as smart, in fact I have a law degree (from when I was level 1 before I burnt out severely) so I've probably achieved more. But hey, can't let a 'low functioning' guy seem like he's managing better. That just wouldn't be fair, we have to maintain the sense of superiority over the stupid ones.

If you and I are actually the same except for the one fact of how much support we each require to live our lives, how can you view yourself as better than non verbal autistic people? Ido Kedar is non verbal, he was forced into ABA as a child before his mum pulled him out and got him a letterboard. Boom. Communication. Graduated valedictorian of his honours mainstream classes at highschool and published 3 books.

And he was called low functioning. How about that.

Like sorry I keep coming back to this. I am actually astounded that you said what you said. To imply that because I try to enagage with people online using a computer I cannot be high functioning. Is it not possible that I am both able to utilise technology but simultaneously have poor ability to understand tasks of daily living. My WHODAS (global disability score) was 70%. I scored in 'severely impaired' in every category but mobilisation and 'extreme impairment' for community and social access. My score was severe overall. I scored 4/8 with an independent life skills questionnaire, and the things I was able to do independently were book a cab or an uber, take my medication if reminded, operate my phone. And I scored far far lower than the average within my demographic in all areas of social inclusion (in person and electronic), home integration, productivity, and some other area.

It's actually so fucking annoying when other autistic people say the same shit that government services use to deny me the support I need. If I'm seen as too smart by the agency that does my funding, I lose part of it, especially if I advocate for myself, god forbid, like some kind of assertive autistic person. No, my intelligence has time and time again resulted in supports denied. Because people lump me in with your lot who have little to no huge impact of autism on your life and could manage without the label and probably get away with not telling people, when I actually need support workers to go 'actually Eli you have to change that shirt it's got yoghurt and coffee on it. And maybe have a shower. Have you brushed your teeth and had your meds? Oh you haven't even had breakfast? Okay let's start there's when they walk into my house.

But I'm smart. So I can't be level 3.

When I got diagnosed and I told people the vast majority of friends and people u knew were like 'you didn't already have a diagnosis?' or said things like 'you did always seem a bit Aspergers' or some of them congratulated me for finally going through with it. When people meet me it's not a matter of them finding out if I'm autistic, it's a matter of when and to what degree, dependent on the effort I will put into masking.

I masked (covered up) my autism for 20 years because I was smart and self aware enough to know that doing the things I did and acting that way made me not get any friends. So I stopped. And I studied people and learnt their exact behaviours, emotions, and script. Life is a script to me, and everyone follows it. It's predictable. And I can usually stay one step ahead on a good day and make it seem like I know what I'm doing. But it comes at a huge fucking cost to my energy levels. Acting like I don't have sensory issues and trying to cover up and compensate for my social deficits broke me eventually and I wasn't able to do it anymore. So I used to be level 1, when I masked it. When I stopped masking I became tiered at level 3. An obvious consequence of not masking.

My life is far better for it. But holy shit I wish neurotypical people and other autistic people would understand that levels don't refer to literally what someone is or is not capable of doing like writing or speaking, gets that often there are other developmental disabilities muddle up there, and realise that functional labels are harmful.
I don't think a reply is necessary. I stopped reading when you said someone you're smoking METH with agrees that you're autistic. Credibility goes out the window when you're referencing the opinion of some random dude you smoked meth with lol. Live your best life buddy. You don't need to convince me of anything. I don't know you. Just speaking from my experience. Maybe put the meth down though.
 
I don't think a reply is necessary. I stopped reading when you said someone you're smoking METH with agrees that you're autistic. Credibility goes out the window when you're referencing the opinion of some random dude you smoked meth with lol. Live your best life buddy. You don't need to convince me of anything. I don't know you. Just speaking from my experience. Maybe put the meth down though.
This Mental Health sub forum is a place where people go to look for support, so try and remember and not be so critical towards people trying to seek out help.
 
I don't think a reply is necessary. I stopped reading when you said someone you're smoking METH with agrees that you're autistic. Credibility goes out the window when you're referencing the opinion of some random dude you smoked meth with lol. Live your best life buddy. You don't need to convince me of anything. I don't know you. Just speaking from my experience. Maybe put the meth down though.

I find it incredibly telling that I just took the time to kindly educate you about how to better understand our community and treat higher support needs people with more respect yet your response was to be completely disrespectful towards me.

Clearly on the 'high functioning is superior to low functioning' bandwagon I see?

Also I wasn't smoking meth I was shooting it. Please disrespect me correctly.
 
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Can you imagine how horrible it would be if you were constantly being judged by someone who was autistic?

Part of the disease is not being able to correctly judge others verbal language or body language correctly.

I once saw an autistic kid take a dump in a urinal.
 
I find it incredibly telling that I just took the time to kindly educate you about how to better understand our community and treat higher support needs people with more respect yet your response was to be completely disrespectful towards me.

Clearly on the 'high functioning is superior to low functioning' bandwagon I see?

Also I wasn't smoking meth I was shooting it. Please disrespect me correctly.
I’m a part of the community, and you didn’t kindly educate me. You attacked me because you assumed I thought I was better some how. You’ve referenced this several times. I said nothing close to that. The fact that you think I did or interpreted it that way illustrates your own insecurities.
Like I said, I’m a part of the community. I’m on no bandwagon. Get over yourself.
Please don’t waste time responding. This has reached a sufficient level of petty. We can leave it at this.
 
This Mental Health sub forum is a place where people go to look for support, so try and remember and not be so critical towards people trying to seek out help.
Did you not read this persons 5000 word essay attacking me for things I never said? Maybe you missed that. I’m a part of the community. No one was being critical. I think you missed what I was saying. But ok.
 
I’m a part of the community, and you didn’t kindly educate me. You attacked me because you assumed I thought I was better some how. You’ve referenced this several times. I said nothing close to that. The fact that you think I did or interpreted it that way illustrates your own insecurities.
Like I said, I’m a part of the community. I’m on no bandwagon. Get over yourself.
Please don’t waste time responding. This has reached a sufficient level of petty. We can leave it at this.

You called 'low functioning' people so stupid they can't even use a combination dude.

You needed the explanation because that is not okay. You clearly have zero understanding about different ways autism presents if you think that.
 
@RUC4 , Eligiu did kinda bombard you with a lot of information there and I think cos he is so well-versed about autism and eloquent in the way he types, it may have come across as attacking you. But I think he was genuinely trying to educate you on the most up-to-date classifications of autism. I don't think he meant any harm. It can be hard to read between the lines over the internet because vocal tone, facial expressions and body language don't exist, and if you have a disorder where interpersonal communication skills are tricky for you in the first place, well, it's going to be even harder! So it's understandable that a lot gets lost in the mix. But I don't think anyone was trying to be combative here. Let's all continue this learning journey together 🙂
 
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