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Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v3

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mrwelladjusted said:
It's ok to write about sexual dysfunction here I think.
Most of the time I have no sex drive, but sometimes even out of boredom I masturbate watching porn at the same time, which I know isn't the healthiest thing to do, but at least it gives me a tiny dopamine hit.

Why you have those dreams I don't know, but for example I have hipokinetic dysarthria caused by the drug which means I can't speak almost at all. But sometimes when I dream, I dream of speaking like a normal person, which is weird. I can't make most basic sentences while being awake cause I'm too dumb, can't speak cause my speech is disturbed, but I can dream of speaking like there's no problem at all.
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Yeah that same shit happened to me in my dreams last night. It was great nigga
 
Cantbe said:
You’re right last time I was coming off medication I took a year off school but I only have a month before this job. My family at first said they’ll support me as long as it takes to get better from this med now they want me to go to work to keep me distracted from the withdrawal process. I have no idea what to do. Maybe I should at least try the job? I’ll be wrecked if they fire me.
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Yeah that’s probably what my parents are going to do to me. They seem supportive right now but they’ll be harassing me again soon enough
 
mrwelladjusted said:
Your receptors will be desentisized either to dopamine and serotonin for as long as the drug is in your system, but that shouldn't take much longer. Depends on the number of injections and their doses. As far as I know, at least speaking of dopamine receptors, after the drug is gone they are even more sensitive to dopamine than before, so there's not much to be worried about. It's just that it takes usually a lot of time for receptors to return to their normal function and to reach homeostasis. There is nothing permanent, unless you took like 20 or more Injections - then you'd have to wait muuuch longer, but you'd eventually recover one day.

I'm almost 5 months after the injection and I feel worse than any human being can, at least I think so. So I feel you, you're not alone in this situation. I used to have some small windows, but they were like "I kind of feel slightly better, but I'm still too anxious to leave home, so what's the point."

I think I'll have to wait a year or two more, that's just my guess, but I accepted it.
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How many shots did you get so you still expect a full recovery right now I feel like dying I will probably chain smoke through the next 5 years trying to heal Idk man in vega is nasty shit
 
Hi all. Im a guy that was put in rispieridone in 2015 and it took me a year to recover. Unfortunately in 2017 i started hearing things again i g9t put on abilify and again i recovered after a year. Now ive been put in a different antipsychotic back in april. They gave me 3 injections and im back to the whole feeling like shit again. I havnt take an injection in a month but man it sucks being back on an antipsychotic. I got a lot of the symproms thst you people are mentioning, feeling like shit. Not talking. Not doing much. Hard to converse. Man these meds are rough thats all i have to say. Im living with my parents atm but my parents are believers in the meds. For one right now i just really wanna get bettet again. But 2 im worried that if i start to feel like shit then ill just end up on meds again. Cause my parents will call the cops on me and get me sent to a mental health ward. Its annoyibg how just knowing these meds are bad for you is not enough to not get put on them. We have parents and cops and psychiatrist that can force you to take pills, and if you dont take pills then they force an injection on you. Real corrupt stuff going on.
 
Sbar25 said:
How many shots did you get so you still expect a full recovery right now I feel like dying I will probably chain smoke through the next 5 years trying to heal Idk man in vega is nasty shit
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I rely on the experiences of others, there were plenty of people that have recovered 100%, probably most of those who have recovered is 100% back normal and only some that have recovered in like 90%, but every each one of us should some day be 100% normal, it just takes a huge amount of time, which sucks. Drug-induced extrapyramidal symptoms, desensitization of receptors and so on are reversible, in contrast to a stroke for example, so we at least have this advantage of knowing for sure that things will eventually get better with time. I just had one shot of Abilify Maintena, but it was 400mg, and dosages of Maintena and Invega are almost the same, so I had an equivalence of something like 2-4 injections of Invega at once. It was basically like 400mg of Invega at once. I feel like dying too, this is the most horrible experience I've ever gone through, but I have to remember that it has only been less than 5 months in my case since the injection, it's not that much. And your 6 months isn't too much neither. It's a long time of suffering, I know, but in case of Invega it's not so much. If you don't feel any improvement after a year, then I'd start to worry, but right now all you have to do and probably all you can do is wait patiently. A lot of people see some improvements after 6-8 months, so maybe you're close to that.
 
Gdvffh said:
Hi all. Im a guy that was put in rispieridone in 2015 and it took me a year to recover. Unfortunately in 2017 i started hearing things again i g9t put on abilify and again i recovered after a year. Now ive been put in a different antipsychotic back in april. They gave me 3 injections and im back to the whole feeling like shit again. I havnt take an injection in a month but man it sucks being back on an antipsychotic. I got a lot of the symproms thst you people are mentioning, feeling like shit. Not talking. Not doing much. Hard to converse. Man these meds are rough thats all i have to say. Im living with my parents atm but my parents are believers in the meds. For one right now i just really wanna get bettet again. But 2 im worried that if i start to feel like shit then ill just end up on meds again. Cause my parents will call the cops on me and get me sent to a mental health ward. Its annoyibg how just knowing these meds are bad for you is not enough to not get put on them. We have parents and cops and psychiatrist that can force you to take pills, and if you dont take pills then they force an injection on you. Real corrupt stuff going on.
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Hello.
All I can really say is that I really feel sorry for you, this has to be a nightmare. Didn't you have a right to say that you'd rather switch to pills instead of injections last time? You have to somehow convince them that injections are making you feel like shit, I mean, can't your parents see this? If you have an opportunity of switching to pills, then I think it would be a better idea, so you can constantly be changing your oral medications until you find one that doesn't make you feel bad and that actually helps you.
 
mrwelladjusted said:
Hello.
All I can really say is that I really feel sorry for you, this has to be a nightmare. Didn't you have a right to say that you'd rather switch to pills instead of injections last time? You have to somehow convince them that injections are making you feel like shit, I mean, can't your parents see this? If you have an opportunity of switching to pills, then I think it would be a better idea, so you can constantly be changing your oral medications until you find one that doesn't make you feel bad and that actually helps you.
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Hi. Im under the belief that all antipsychotics are bad for you and your better off taking none of them as they all make you feel like shit. No i didnt have a choice. The doctors wanted me on injections so i had to take injections. My parents know i wouldnt take the pills so they tell the doctors to put me on an injection. Im not on any pills or injections now however.

If i tell my family the meds make me feel bad they just think thats the cost of taking these drugs. That "no pill is perfect", honestly its like in one ear out the other with my family.
 
Gdvffh said:
Hi. Im under the belief that all antipsychotics are bad for you and your better off taking none of them as they all make you feel like shit. No i didnt have a choice. The doctors wanted me on injections so i had to take injections. My parents know i wouldnt take the pills so they tell the doctors to put me on an injection. Im not on any pills or injections now however.

If i tell my family the meds make me feel bad they just think thats the cost of taking these drugs. That "no pill is perfect", honestly its like in one ear out the other with my family.
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I think this might be the worst case scenario that someone can have. Of course antipsychotics are bad for you, if you feel bad after taking them. Maybe they work for some people just fine, when the benefits of taking the drug outweigh the side effects, but if someone feels really bad on them, to the point that it hurts the person, then this is inhumane to force you on these drugs. I'm not familiar with SZ symptoms and alternative ways of treating them, but I believe that there has to be some way to get rid of antipsychotics and to not have a relapse in the form of hearing voices and so on. Maybe other guys in this thread will help you somehow, I can't think of anything right now. But to wade through life with antipsychotics when they make you feel like shit.. this is not the way to go. If your parents don't understand your issues, then try go get some help from other people. Different psychiatrists/doctors, someone who will know how to proceed in such case. I wish you all best.
 
mrwelladjusted said:
I think this might be the worst case scenario that someone can have. Of course antipsychotics are bad for you, if you feel bad after taking them. Maybe they work for some people just fine, when the benefits of taking the drug outweigh the side effects, but if someone feels really bad on them, to the point that it hurts the person, then this is inhumane to force you on these drugs. I'm not familiar with SZ symptoms and alternative ways of treating them, but I believe that there has to be some way to get rid of antipsychotics and to not have a relapse in the form of hearing voices and so on. Maybe other guys in this thread will help you somehow, I can't think of anything right now. But to wade through life with antipsychotics when they make you feel like shit.. this is not the way to go. If your parents don't understand your issues, then try go get some help from other people. Different psychiatrists/doctors, someone who will know how to proceed in such case. I wish you all best.
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Well last time i started hearing things i was just stressed. Why did you get forcdd kn antipsychotics? Honestly hearing things isnt as bad as people make it out to be, the way you feel on antipsychotics is way worse then hearing things. If it were up to me id rather hear things cause at least you can work and go to school and enjoy life. On antipsychotics you just lay in bed and have no thoughts in your head and feel like shit all the time.

Its quite a dilema really, like doctors just want to prescribe antipsychotics to people so talking about them isnt a good idea. If you hear things thats somenthibg you should hobestly keep to yourself. As everyone around you just wants to put you on medications. 1 thing im thinking is when i get better im a move out from my parenrs place again. If im living on my own i cant have anyobe forcing me on meds by just calling the cops to are house.
 
Gdvffh said:
Well last time i started hearing things i was just stressed. Why did you get forcdd kn antipsychotics? Honestly hearing things isnt as bad as people make it out to be, the way you feel on antipsychotics is way worse then hearing things. If it were up to me id rather hear things cause at least you can work and go to school and enjoy life. On antipsychotics you just lay in bed and have no thoughts in your head and feel like shit all the time.

Its quite a dilema really, like doctors just want to prescribe antipsychotics to people so talking about them isnt a good idea. If you hear things thats somenthibg you should hobestly keep to yourself. As everyone around you just wants to put you on medications. 1 thing im thinking is when i get better im a move out from my parenrs place again. If im living on my own i cant have anyobe forcing me on meds by just calling the cops to are house.
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I see. It seems that these symptoms are not as bad as described by people. Or maybe it's pharmaceutical concerns that make it look like living with them is so bad, so they can make more money, I don't know.
About me.. it is a simple situation. I wasn't forced on an injection, I agreed to have one, just to get out from the psych ward faster. I didn't know how big mistake I made back then.
I did too much drugs, got to the hospital, I was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia and I knew they wouldn't let me out that simply without neuroleptics, so I was like "alright, injection? Okay. Then I get out in two days? Fine". I got out and then day after day I was feeling worse and worse. I ended up with parkinonism, can't think, can't talk, can't feel happiness. All I can feel is sadness, which is weird, cause everyone here says that they don't feel emotions at all. And I'm crying almost on a daily basis, waiting for the day I'll be able to smile.
 
I too took th shot I was deceived I didn't know I took it to get released easier now I'm worried this is my new life....
Scary:(
 
One thing that has gotten better is sleep....
I can't imagine going through life this way tho:(
 
Yeah thats how it works. They wont let you leave unless you get an injection. I was in your situation 2 years ago at the mental hospital. They wouldnt let me leave unless i took an abilify injection. I took it and felt like shit for a long time.

Well at least your in the 5 month mark. Give its another 3 months so and you should be feeling better, i got a good 7 months to go.

Im just wondering for those people that are complaining of sexual dysfunction, why not just take viagra?
 
Gdvffh said:
Hi. Im under the belief that all antipsychotics are bad for you and your better off taking none of them as they all make you feel like shit. No i didnt have a choice. The doctors wanted me on injections so i had to take injections. My parents know i wouldnt take the pills so they tell the doctors to put me on an injection. Im not on any pills or injections now however.

If i tell my family the meds make me feel bad they just think thats the cost of taking these drugs. That "no pill is perfect", honestly its like in one ear out the other with my family.
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Why didn't you take away your parents ability to get information from the hospital(s) about your health? I think you probably could have done that, although I'm not sure how many hospitals let you do that. Are you not old enough to do that? Why didn't you keep switching doctors until you found one who gave you pills?
mrwelladjusted said:
I see. It seems that these symptoms are not as bad as described by people. Or maybe it's pharmaceutical concerns that make it look like living with them is so bad, so they can make more money, I don't know.
About me.. it is a simple situation. I wasn't forced on an injection, I agreed to have one, just to get out from the psych ward faster. I didn't know how big mistake I made back then.
I did too much drugs, got to the hospital, I was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia and I knew they wouldn't let me out that simply without neuroleptics, so I was like "alright, injection? Okay. Then I get out in two days? Fine". I got out and then day after day I was feeling worse and worse. I ended up with parkinonism, can't think, can't talk, can't feel happiness. All I can feel is sadness, which is weird, cause everyone here says that they don't feel emotions at all. And I'm crying almost on a daily basis, waiting for the day I'll be able to smile.
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Sbar25 said:
I too took th shot I was deceived I didn't know I took it to get released easier now I'm worried this is my new life....
Scary:(
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It actually may have been a good thing that both of you agreed to get a shot. I think it depends on where you live, but you can be put under an involuntary commitment for refusing to take medication. I'm not sure how all involuntary commitments work worldwide, but I think in most (if not all) states in the U.S., you can be forced to take medication for long periods of time like months or years under a commitment. While it may be hard, be grateful that you only received one shot.

Sbar25, you said some guy said you jumped in front of traffic. I think that could be used in court to say that you're a danger to yourself to get you committed.
 
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I'm pretty to wait many many years I just hope it gets better the world has become mentally ill I'm now hiding inside waiting hoping praying for recovery from this nasty disgusting medication
 
ihateinvega said:
Why didn't you take away your parents ability to get information from the hospital(s) about your health? I think you probably could have done that, although I'm not sure how many hospitals let you do that. Are you not old enough to do that? Why didn't you keep switching doctors until you found one who gave you pills?

Im not sure what country you guys are in but im in canada. In canada when your in the mental health ward you have go take the drugs. If you say no then they just call security and shove an injection up your ass. Eitber way your going to take the medication. The whole point of injection is to more easilly force people on the medication.
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I cant keep doing this I guess I'm in better shape than lots I only got 1 shot its only been 6 months my theory
0-2 years drug elimination initial recover
2-5 years bulk healing
5+ years hopeful full recovery
I cant go through life this way but me be forced too unfortunately my happiest day will be on my 40th birthday when I finally feel healed from this state sponsored abuse I need help to know this isnt forever I'm scared I guess someone that only got 1 short should heal sooner than someone that got 25 shots.?
I need help guys I'm in dark place I feel like its permanent I just want dopamine and serotonin again I really do even if it takes 10 years I just wanna feel better
 
It's been three months since I was supposed to have my last shot of Invega Trinza. I tried to get the doc to take me off of it but he refused so I simply didn't show up for the appointment. They called me from different numbers, some private. I did not pick up. They called my mother and she basically told them I'm not going to take it anymore. The nurse said ok but told us that psychosis will most likely return.

I still have anhedonia and my feelings are pretty flat most of the time, though I started to feel anger. I'm glad my emotions are coming back to me. I would've preferred anger not being the first to come back but oh well. Had a brief period of happiness about a month ago before going to sleep. Haven't felt any good emotions since.
I dropped out of university due to the psychosis and the injection made it impossible for me to hold down a job, so I quit two min. wage jobs after working for two months.

I kind of just gave up on life and would spend most of my days in bed watching countless videos on YouTube drifting in and out of sleep. I would browse suicide forums at night. I found a good method and was about to end it, but one day mom told me to look at courses to take to get money out of my education fund. I looked around and found welding to be quite appealing so I might go for it. That'll be when I feel a bit better though. I still feel like shit and I don't think I'll improve in time for September. If it doesn't work out, suicide is always an option.
 
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