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MDA - Taken to another world

Baker

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MDA - Experienced - Taken to another world

This experience was very surreal, i was left feeling like i was looking at earth through a window and like i didn't really exist in humanity.
I have taken all the Psychoactives listed in my trip report, however this one was different and was more MDA orientated rather then a additive to MDMA, anyway... the experience was different.
-The dealers were all trusted, so i wasn't getting screwed over.

Before leaving
10:00PM – At home my friend and I indulged in about 4-5 standard drinks of alcohol each. We arrived at about

12:00AM - mildly intoxicated and then proceeded to get the pills, we met up with friends and swallowed the pills whole. I had experienced an MDA mixed with MDMA high before, but these were claimed to be pure MDA alone and therefore I anticipated an interesting experience.

1:00AM – I began to feel the onset of the MDA, it felt similar to MDMA but a bit higher in body load and not as euphoric. I began to “smack out” or feel overwhelmed by the experience. I decided to sit down and take it easy, drinking water at certain intervals, I was fairly social and used to this situation so it didn’t upset me much apart from maybe a little stomach discomfort that seemed to be arguing with the drinks I had consumed before leaving. I went into the bathroom during this time and began to see some minor OEV, I saw a red box bouncing around the room as I went to urinate, I occasionally get a bit of urinary retention that seemed a bit more pronounced at this time then on normal pills but it was all ok. While I was in there the lights went out, I wondered for a little while if I was tripping out hard or whether the lights had actually been switched off, but anyway it allowed me to hallucinate a bit more seeing a few streaks of colours bounce around in the darkness.

2:00AM – The body load appears to be mutating into a more “chargey”, however relaxed peak, I had energy to move around however there was no necessary to desire dance unless I wanted to, when I was standing still I’d get a sensation of “jelly legs” so I always kept on moving or sitting down, it was feeling a lot nicer now and some of the jitteriness in my body parts had been replaced with a sense of relaxation. I was still getting subtle hallucinations, peoples hair changing colour etc, but when I closed my eyes I got full blown CEV’s similar to the ones given by DXM, I would get lost in a lucid world and feel as if I am on a different planet only to find I am still at a rave (very enjoyable and interesting).

3:00AM – The whole night seems to be flowing with a sense of surrealism, I decided to have a bit of meth and had about 0.25g, this made me even less jittery and sent me into an even nicer relaxed state. When I was dancing I felt a strong tribal instinct along with the traditional religious experiences of dancing around a fire, I felt strong connecting with humanity to dance around the light in this night environment (I am agnostic by the way). The whole “rave thing” seemed to make sense (similar to the feelings given by MDMA), I felt like I belonged and the emotional bonding seemed more visual, then emotional, e.g. I understood peoples thoughts and emotions through site rather then the empathic nature of MDMA.

4:00AM – Although the MDA is still going strong I decide to add to the experience and have half a pill of said to be MDMA, I should mention that throughout the night the feelings found through massages, Vicks, tobacco etc was very similar if not the same as the feelings that come about through MDMA. Once the second half pill began to come on, I began to feel the normal effects I have become accustomed to associate with MDMA that warm fuzzy euphoria, strong emotional connection with others, desire to communicate etc (the MDMA seemed to make the experience about twice as enjoyable).

5:00AM – I decided to add a red bull and vodka to liven things up a bit and while I was still obviously under the effects of both MDMA and MDA it had an impact on my experience and I could actually feel the effects of the low dose of alcohol and caffeine sort of relax me even further (however it did not feel like the best combination).

6:00AM – still feeling very chargey my friends decide its about time to leave, we have no transport so we decide it’s best to walk, I didn’t mind because I was still feeling very energetic and still felt like I was peaking off the MDMA. I began feeling the comedown of the MDA and this part was very surreal, it felt as if I was looking at the earth through a window and like I was slowly driving back into my traditional state of conciousness.

7:00AM - We sat at a bus stop and watched the ground move, obvious changes in depth perception, I still felt somewhat disconnected, like I wasn’t part of the human race yet, I felt like I’d just been on another planet or I had just met god, I felt like a different being. This was the most interesting part of the experience, reflecting back on the night and the insights into a different culture and lifestyle. As we got closer to home the feelings of “scat” began to set in, where there seems a strong sense of disconnection from each other.

8:00AM - This MDA experience seemed somewhat more psychedelic and more like LSA in the way that although it was soft it allowed me to see myself from a different perspective. Once we got home we dosed on some 5-htp and some valium. I never get any sense of depression from pills, however I do get a sense of disassociation that is often intensified by marijuana (which can be a good tool for further exploration)

9:00AM + I spent the next few hours sitting around watching TV and using the computer, reliving parts of the night and thinking back on what I had done. Socializing, dancing, loving the music, philosophizing etc.

This was a very interesting experience, as it put me in a different perspective of my life and allowed me to think rather coherently with a low level of “mind f**k” unlike the stronger psychedelics. It seemed very spiritual and alien like (maybe industrial mushrooms). Never had an experience with mushrooms so I can’t contrast but I plan to in the future. This strong dose of MDA seemed more psychedelic then the usual MDMA, however I do believe MDMA to be very insightful, therapeutic and spiritual MDA seemed to have a more heavy load and allow for a more “bumpy ride” and therefore replaced MDMA’s euphoria with a sort of darker more physical, visual or mental aspect to the emotional bonding rather then MDMA’s strong positive mood lift.

I was left with a nice afterglow for about the next week as i finally felt my wings slowly being brought down as I turned back into my normal self.
 
On MDMA I feel very cozy and and quite content to just sit in my chair and mong out. This is quite different to MDA. ON MDA I feel like a music soldier and very keen to get up and move around. Two quite different substances in that respect. MDA is a stand up and dance drug whereas MDMA is a sit down and mong drug.
 
MDA is far superior to MDMA in my opinion. I hate the direction the mood push takes you in with MDMA, whereas with MDA, it seemed to be put in its proper place. Not to mention the sheer euphoria and intensity of MDA is far greater than that of MDMA. Also, I am much more into strong psychedelics. MDA, though it was still an "inner" experience, was very visual. The visuals/visions were very sensual and surreal. I actually felt like I had taken a very high dose of MDMA with a couple drops of LSD. This was all from one strong pill (the large white #1's on Ecstasy Data).
 
I hate the direction the mood push takes you in with MDMA

How so? I find MDMA's positive mood push very constructive. I think you may have also said this of 4-AcO-MiPT (or was it 4-Ho-MiPT, or was it even you? :) )

Not to mention the sheer euphoria and intensity of MDA is far greater than that of MDMA.

Last time, I thought MDA's euphoria was significantly less than MDMA's. Well rather, it had less capicity for producing euphoria. Euphoria had to be found from within, as with most other psychedelics.

MDA, though it was still an "inner" experience, was very visual. The visuals/visions were very sensual and surreal. I actually felt like I had taken a very high dose of MDMA with a couple drops of LSD.

I know!! The best comparison of MDA was to a good ole' LSD/MDMA experience. But for me, it was not specifically euphoric as with LSD/MDMA. But it was still very insightful, cosmic and mindblowing. And visually amazing. I was reminded amost of the indole world at times!

Yes, I was truly blown away by MDA. I took 110mg of known MDA hcl three weeks ago tonight, and I had three prior experiences with street MDA pills (unknown dosage). To be honest, I thought 110mg was too much. I took what I figured was a lower dose (based on the 100mg to 150mg dose/per Shulgin and Erowid.) but it was too overwhelming. Next time, it will be closer to 80mg.

If there is a next time, that is. The capsule of MDA powder was taken at 4:45 AM and, though I was well down at six-hours, I still had minor, but real effects well into the next night. It was a bit too much.
 
morninggloryseed said:
How so? I find MDMA's positive mood push very constructive.


I find that MDMA and Methylone both have "feminine" qualities that I cannot explain. There is a feeling of false happiness within the trip. It's not such a problem when I'm with my girlfriend, but even still, I find myself being forced to "feel" certain emotions and the forced openness bothers me. I am an extremely open person as it is. I love expressing myself and having empathy and understanding towards others. However, I feel with MDMA and Methylone, there is too much push towards this type of behavior.

Taken from Erowid,

Negative effects of MDMA include:

Inappropriate and/or unintended emotional bonding
Tendency to say things you might feel uncomfortable about later


Also taken from Erowid, depending on the situation, these effects can make me feel uncomfortable:

Increased willingness to communicate
Feelings of comfort, belonging, and closeness to others
Feelings of love and empathy
Forgiveness
Urge to hug and kiss people

The reason these effects can make me feel uncomfortable is because I feel that they are rooted in an unnatural way. ..I guess that they aren't true feelings but mere acceptance of things based on the euphoria you are feeling at the time. This is very similar to what I experience when I take Opiates. Maybe I just feel that I have a natural gift of openness, and I feel that I don't need anything to give me a "boost." I just don't really get many more useful effects from it than when I use Cocaine. Don't get me wrong, I have had some mind opening experiences with MDMA and Methylone, especially Methylone, but none of the entactogens, even MDA, could take the place of traditional psychedelics in my heart.

Also, one more thing about MDMA and Methylone. I have found that it has caused me to view my girlfriend as basically a sex object at times. ..That is, I find that it is hard to control my carnal being, and it causes me to want this raw, porn style sexual activity with my girlfriend that I am not really into otherwise. I am actually a very romantic person. 4-HO-DiPT (Iprocin) was the perfect drug for that. I felt nothing but true feelings of love and connection, respect and gentleness, and sensual romance towards her. It really made me selfless, whereas entactogens tend to make me very selfish.

What I mentioned about the euphoria on 4-HO-MiPT was that I felt that at times the feeling of "rolling" was so intense that it took away from some of the spirituality at the dose of 12mgs. However, I couldn't say anything negative about that chemical. I am dying to try it again at 16mgs.

Oh, and morninggloryseed, I sent you a PM, and I was just wondering if you received it?
 
Neither methylone or MDMA gave me any unatural euphoria, as with opiates. The euphoria was genuine and real. The bond and connection I felt with my girlfriend (I've only used these with my loved one) was real. MDMA and methylone simply expanded upon it. Also, though I've never taken MDMA or methylone at a party, I don't see either causing me to experience, "Inappropriate and/or unintended emotional bonding
Tendency to say things you might feel uncomfortable about later." Chalk it up to different strokes for different folks. The PM, I did get it. Sorry been busy. Catch me on IM.

Cheers. :)
 
Yeah i think i now prefer the MDA high to MDMA, I think a little bit of MDMA combination helps though... Anyway does anyone know about MDA honeymoon compared to MDMA, are its effects the same in the way that it gets boring etc?
 
I found that MDA was more forceful in its mode of action than MDMA. Whenever I swallow an xtc pill there is a feeling of excitement because these drugs are stimulants. I definately felt like MDA was producing more of a an energetic trip for me. Provided MDMA doesn't hit me too hard on the come-up then I am very relaxed and tranquil to the experience. Although MDA has a reputation for getting people 'starry-eyed', this happens alot with MDMA as well. For me the major difference had something to the nergy levels. MDA is a higher pitched drug with more treble. MDMA was more basey, just to sit back in the recliner and let it happen. It is very subtle though, MDMA is afterall still a stimulant so it is not at all like comparing cocaine with heroin.
 
Yeah, I found that MDA had an intense onset. The waves started to hit very hard and fast. I didn't have much of a social effect from it, though I was very content to stand around and watch others engage in conversation. I noticed alot of stimulation in that I did not want to be in an enclosed environment, and I could not sit down, but in a way, I felt like I was nodding on Heroin. My eyes were rolling back in my head and twitching like crazy because of how much euphoria I was feeling. The lights blurred away, and brightened like fire-flies on a misty summer night as my eyes rolled around. I was sitting there thinking to myself, "the peak hasn't even hit." All of a sudden, after it rolled up through me again, I saw a kaleidoscope of swirling colors throughout the sky. I felt like I had just started peaking on MDMA and LSD at the same time. It was then that I knew I had not taken MDMA, but MDA. It was amazing. I took three hits of some high grade Cannabis, and from then on, I was staring into sensual/erotic hallucinogenic space for hours. The feeling was totally indescribable. I had taken the pill around 11PM, and I was still rolling at 4AM, yet still tripping at 8AM. All I have to say is I really hope I get the chance to try a nice dose of MDA again in my life.
 
Re: MDA - Experienced - Taken to another world

Baker said:
The dealers were all trusted, so i wasn't getting screwed over.

Would you trust them with your life?

I must agree though, MDA has been rather surprising when I didn't anticipate anything extraordinary, I'm glad to see you enjoyed your evening :)
 
Well i trusted them with my life buying pills off them.
They have been good friends since I was very young, I don't think they'd choose now to screw me over, i saw them develop into a dealer.
I trust them being in the car with them or whatever so you could say I was fairly confident, however I knew there was a possibility that they may not be telling me the entire the truth, but even then i was still getting a quality pill. (Never been let down so far)
I don't think that these fellow psychonaughts aim was to screw me over.
 
That sounds like MDA to me. :)

I actually had an experience with "pure" MDA last weekend... fucking mindblowing 200mg and I was seeing people walk out of walls, eye wiggles the likes ive never seen or had and the euphoria of MDMA was DEFINITELY there as you could hear me all throughout the house. No joke.

Yeah... it proved to be one of the best rolls I've ever had and not only that but I candyflipped this weekend (first time with LSD) on some strong blotter (4 hits had me playing with a clock for 8 hours) and I definitely see the resemblance. Although LSD visuals seem a lot clearer. I find that MDA tends to be foggy. Like you are seeing the visuals because of a huge load on the mind rather than with LSD, where it felt natural to be experiencing the visuals I was.
 
Interesting to note that recently, about three weeks ago I had a tremendous bonding experience with a girl that was friends with a good friend of mine. I spent the night on MDMA hanging out with the two girls and found I was falling in love with this new girl. It took be about two weeks to resolve the connection. It had caused me confusion and doubt in my current relationship. MDMA can be dangerous in this respect, especially when you willingly allow certain doors to be opened by others. I think I should be more careful with such a strong substance. :)
 
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