the only drug im pretty comfortable with would be weed.
IMHO,
Cannabis sp. is
very psychedelic! Not for daily users, though.
Anyways, I've always been very interested in psychedelics, but Id rather not go straight in and take something like lsd right away. I've heard 2cb is a good starting psychedelic, but i was wondering if any of you have any other ideas for a mild psychedelic to start with, before moving on to more mainstream psychedelics like shrooms or lsd?
Psilocybin-containing mushrooms have a duration of about 6 hours, and I'm sure that "liberty caps" (
Psilocybe semilanceata) or similar mushrooms of the genus
Psilocybe also grow outside in the place you are living! IMHO, this is the best way of taking psychedelics: going out into nature, identifying them (
We all of course know that a certainty of 100% is necessary before eating any mushroom?) and eating them!
The same duration (6 h) is also approximately true for 2C-B.
al-lad/4-ho-met/4-aco-met/2c-c
all very mild (in sane doses anyway)
IMHO, this is only partially true. For example, I tripped quite hard on 300 micrograms AL-LAD, definitely harder than on one average LSD blotter (with estimated 50-100 micrograms LSD, typical for black market acid according to
www.checkyourdrugs.at).
Also, by taking 40-50 mg 4-HO-MET or 4-AcO-MET, one will definitely trip harder than on 2 grams of self-collected "liberty caps" (
Psilocybe semilanceata).
The only substance you mentioned for which this is true is 2C-C. I once took 100 mg (
no safe use!) and had an mediocre trip with bad body reactions throughout the whole trip.
Also, all 4 substances you mentioned are so-called "research chemicals". Do you realize that other people will buy their drugs with different persons (i.e. by black market dealers or by legal self-collecting "liberty caps" (
Psilocybe semilanceata), ...)?
If you can't get your hands on any of those, you could try a low, like 1 or 1.5 gram, dose of mushrooms, to get your feet wet.
You know what Terence McKenna said? "When in doubt, double the dose!".
Also, you did not mention the species of the Psilocybin-containing mushroom. All around the world, there are 100-200 species with very different concentration of psychedelic Alkaloids. Eating 1.5. grams of
Psilocybe azurescens would e.g. be way too much for me (it carries 2-3 times more psychedelic Alkaloids than
Psilocybe cubensis)! On the other hand, eating 1.5 grams of "banded mottlegill" (
Panaeolus cinctulus) would have probalby no effect, because the content of psychedelic Alkaloids in this species varies very strongly.
Mescaline cacti are good for first timers
Mescaline lasts too long (12-18 hours). This is a
conditio sine qua non for the thread starter.
Also have you tried empathogens? MDMA is like a halfway between
Yes, this is another possibility, I consider Empathogens/Entactogens as non-classical Psychedelics as well.
MDA will make you trip hard in a delirious way but you?ll love every minute of it.
No, MDA is in no way delirious! It acts as a Serotonin-Noradrenalin-Dopamin releasing agent and 5HT2A-receptor partial agonist, i.e. it has both effects of "classical psychedelics" and Empathogens/Entactogens.
N.B.: I have never done MDMA nor MDA yet, but similar RC drugs (5-MAPB (very similar to MDMA) and 6-APB (very similar to MDA)).
Don't be afraid of acid! Honestly I think a microdose of lsd would be a good starter.
I wholeheartedly agree!
I found Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds the best for getting a taste
Also a very good idea! And: this is almost completely legal everywhere on planet Earth! The same is true for morning glory seeds.
I feel like HBW has got to have one of the worst cost-benefit ratios of any psychedelic. While I feel like they have a worse reputation than they deserve, the bodyload is still awfully harsh for the quality of the experience, an experience I find pretty uniformly dysphoric.
The bad body side effects are often described. Luckily, I have a very strong stomach and eating 10 Seeds of
Argyreia nervosa has no bad side effects
for me!
I think 2C-B is ideally and by far the best starter psych
I partially agree. It has both psychedelic and empathogenic/entactogenic effects. Also, its Psychopharmacoloy is interesting:
Unlike most hallucinogens, 2C-B has been shown to be a low efficacy serotonin 5-HT2A receptor partial agonist or even full antagonist. This suggests that the 5-HT2C receptor is primarily responsible for mediating the effects experienced by users of 2C-B
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C-B#Pharmacology and the papers quoted in there.
PS: sorry for the long post - this is a kind of trip report in a nutshell of 12 different psychedelic drugs!
Complete list:
Cannabis sp.
LSD
AL-LAD
Argyreia nervosa
Psilocybe cubensis
Psilocybe semilanceata
4-HO-MET
Mescaline (in the form of
Trichocereus pachanoi or, botanically more precise
Echinopsis pachanoi)
2C-C
2C-B
6-APB
5-MAPB