Vastness I wouldn't expect a mind blowing high off kratom.
First of all the opiate high is not interesting. My favorite drugs are weed and dissociatives which alter perception far more (I ask myself how I got addicted to them sometimes.)
Even with no tolerance the highest I've gotten on kratom would be like a few Vicodin.
I love kratom because it's much better for maintenance than Suboxone in my opinion, much more natural feeling, less depression or sexual side effects, just happier all around.
As a high it's whatever. If I was just getting high wouldn't miss it if banned, but many of us out here using it to manage opiate problems (utter disgrace if banned.)
First of all the opiate high is not interesting. My favorite drugs are weed and dissociatives which alter perception far more (I ask myself how I got addicted to them sometimes.)
Even with no tolerance the highest I've gotten on kratom would be like a few Vicodin.
I love kratom because it's much better for maintenance than Suboxone in my opinion, much more natural feeling, less depression or sexual side effects, just happier all around.
As a high it's whatever. If I was just getting high wouldn't miss it if banned, but many of us out here using it to manage opiate problems (utter disgrace if banned.)