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Methylallylescaline (31mg): "Goldilocks Zone!"

Vaya

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After my last trials, I was so curious about the capacity of MAL to mimic the unique and inteñse energy that, thus far, not even synthetic Mescaline doesn't feel right.

The last time, I reported a somewhat eventful, mild psychedelic experience at 16mg oral, after a 1mg llergy test.

I felt more confident about doubling the dose; my first attempt utterly without reservation.

Location: my house/a car
Dose & Route of Administration: 31mg, PO (per oral)
Set: Excited for impending vacation

T+0:00 I ate methylallylescaline with a few sips of water.
I am slated to get in a car with my best friend in 2 hours and drive as passenger ~10 hours to vacation in southern Maine at his house. I hadn't yet established a good recreational dose for us to explore before the trip, and since he was driving, I seized the opportunity. I'm all packed.

T+1:05 I can feel the first alerts. My nerves tingle; there is a heavy feeling in my legs. Sitting is supremely preferred to standing, for sure.

T+1:45 Both the visual and the depth of my headspace simultaneously overcome me. This bears resemblance to Mescaline in the sense that it takes time for it to truly be. The waves are sunny, pleasant,, as though I'm looking at the world obscured by water at the bottom of a resort hotel pool. Very 2C-B-esque!

T+2:40 Am really glad I didn't take any more than 31mg, despite PIHKAL's conjectures regarding dosage, and I do know how 'out-there' I was for a couple hours!

T+3:30 This drug, despite its foreboding Internet slang term "MAL," has just been so nurturing to me, with NO bad intentions. The world really is alive, and it is beautiful. Waves of phenethylamine euphoria slide own my spine, and back up again. Vision is highly impaired, i.e. by hallucinations. I find it preferable to lot a significant period of closed-eye time, because it is a sensational experience, but also to prevent feeling overwhelmed by the physical hallucinatory madhouse outside. Neither are bad, but either can be welcome and for me, I learned a lot about creating a harmonious balance between the two on this trip.

T+4:45 I've really been cruising for quite a while, now. I, in the passenger seat of my (sober) friend'car, and watching the scenery we passed was, at times, powerful - though I'll be the very first to admit that being confined to a passenger seat during a trip can be difficult. And truth be told, I was uncomfortable for the latter half of the trip.

Nevertheless I had an amazing ride. I've never gotten "Mescaline giggles" before (a trait I usually associate with tryptamines), but MAL-giggles are pretty rewarding things - even if just in the moment :)

T+5:30 Visuals have begun to decrease. Even though descent is slow, its palpable. because of this, I am really disappointed because the headspace was beginning to dissolve, too, and to be frank I just really had an earnest desire for the indiscriminate spiritual warmth I had been so thoroughly enjoying for five hours.
The come down was nothing to peak of - in the same vein as a 4-AcO-DMT comedown.
Definitely experienced (at times slightly intense) camping in my calves, neck and jaw specifically. I would really recommend taking Magnesium beforehand; I had some with me and took it approximately halfway through the trip. Gum was also indispensable.

T+7:00 Im pretty much down. Residual trippy visual antics are interesting, and body feels so nice! Sort of bordering that area necessary for MDMA-induced physical pleasure. I close my eyes; breathe in the music.

...breathe out my energy - pause for it to envelope everything - and slowly breathe it back in. This fills me with spiritual stability. This drug is with great pi ritual and religious power if treated properly.

I'm struggling to find much more to say about methylallylescaline. I know many (including myself) have been wary of a dose that would not overpower us, as is the sense given from the PIHKAL reports. 16mg was just too low to be interesting. 31mg appears entirely well-suited for a proper and quite qualitative trip, whilst sacrificing those longer trips allegedly 10-16hrs; mine was 7). I would be eager to increase the dose next time to between 37-40mg.

The colors I woold give to the aura around this trip were light green and honeycomb.
If that made sense to anyone... cool.

*Obviously, your body chemistry is not my own. Nothing in this report ought to be advise on dosing. I state only what happened to me as a matter o public interest.

Upwards titration and/or staggered doing may be wise until you know how MAL affects you specifically!

~ Vaya
 
Agreed, nice report! Great job :) I'm always interested in mescaline derivatives, sound interesting. This & escaline both have perked up my interest!
 
Closed.

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Haha.

I think this report should be included in the top of the trip reports in the heading "What a Trip Report should look like".

Sounds very mescaline-esque. How would you compare the two? (assuming you have dabbled with Mescaline)
 
Obviously there are probably many differences, but between the description you have and the mention that it is 2C-B-like I get the feeling that it actually most closely would resemble 2C-C. Have you ever tried 2C-C? I haven't done mescaline or any of its analogues myself, but others such as MGS have reported 2C-C to be the most mescaline-like of the 2C series, and this report reminds me a lot of my experiences with the 4-chlorinated compound.
 
Excellent report on yet another mescaline analog out there. Being driven around in a car sounds like a trying setting indeed, especially for a substance you've never tried before in that dosage. But having said that: I've had really memorable trips being driven by other people and seeing the scenery pass by on mushrooms. Weird stuff, but to be able to enjoy it safely from your own private bubble that no one can touch is magnificent.

At any rate, great report. Concise, to the point and insightful. Thanks! :)
 
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Such kind responses :) let me address some queries:

jackie jones said:
I think this report should be included in the top of the trip reports in the heading "What a Trip Report should look like".

Sounds very mescaline-esque. How would you compare the two? (assuming you have dabbled with Mescaline)

Haha why thank you :)
It's an absolutely atypical phenethylamine. I have experience with 40 phens and 45+ tryptamines, but Mescaline has always been my favorite. I mean, hands down. And this is quite similar a headspace, as well as visually, as real (non-synthetic) mescaline. It lacks, however, practically ANY nausea. Oh, a few slight waves here and there - some, *ahem*, unwanted flatulence ;), but vomiting? Vertigo? Excessive muscular pains/soreness, excessive thirst, protracted hangovers... Well, these features simply don't appear to have been built into methylallylescaline's pharmacological operating system. It's at least in my top 10 now,and I've since been able to try it in staggered doses up to 140mg (operative word: 'staggered!'), via PO, IR, Intranasal, SL and IV. It is very versatile a material, but one that I approached with extreme caution, as I advise all there's to do as well.

Deinonychus said:
Obviously there are probably many differences, but between the description you have and the mention that it is 2C-B-like I get the feeling that it actually most closely would resemble 2C-C. Have you ever tried 2C-C? I haven't done mescaline or any of its analogues myself, but others such as MGS have reported 2C-C to be the most mescaline-like of the 2C series, and this report reminds me a lot of my experiences with the 4-chlorinated compound.

I mean, the most accurate statement with regards to comparing MAL to any of the 2C family would probably be something along the lines of sweet and sensual fornication between 2C-B and 2C-C, producing a mescalinized phenethylamine character comprising attributes of both the metaphorical "parents."

...wow, I must be tripped out or something ;)

I would attribute the 2C-C likeness to MAL's bodily sensations and 2C-B to MAL's visual properties. Even some 2C-D serenity ensues during the comedown, while we're making comparisons!

Excellent report and yet another mescaline analog out there. Being driven around in a car sounds like a trying setting indeed, especially for a substance you've never tried before in that dosage. But having said that: I've had really memorable trips being driven by other people and seeing the scenery pass by on mushrooms. Weird stuff, but to be able to enjoy it safely from your own private bubble that no one can touch is magnificent.

At any rate, great report. Concise, to the point and insightful. Thanks! :)

Great observation. This was to find an optimal dose that I could feel comfortable lightly, ball-park suggesting to fellow psychnauts who, in the future, may decide to blast off with me. I can, and will, never pass along something until I'm quite sure I've played ball with it enough to know it in a general sense; even then, allergy tests and dosage titration are musts with any RC.

I need to get "Harm Reduction" tattooed on my third eye :)

Honestly, though, I'm really glad to be blue to disseminate honest information on virtual unknowns like this and 4-EMC because I know I searched high and low for advice with each and came up with fragmentary, scattered and conflicting results across the digital universe.

If anyone has requests for TR's utilizing different doses or ROA, please just PM me MDA I'll write something up - gladly :)

~ Vaya

Edit: with MAL, it's very important in trip planning to understand that MAL is not a "Let's eat acid and go for a vigorous hike!" experience. I mean, at higher doses I secretly wished I just had a bedpan instead of getting up to pee - LOL =D
 
How was the week afterwards? Allylescaline, while pleasant, caused an emotional rollercoaster for almost a week afterwards. I've definitely seen it reported by others as well. Hopefully MAL avoids that particular effect...
 
Nice report :) Thanks very much Vaya!

I don't think that methylallylescaline is correct though, it's methallylescaline - the former makes it seem like 2 groups instead of one. ;) But just a small detail of course.

Intriguing substance, more compelling descriptions than AL...
 
How was the week afterwards? Allylescaline, while pleasant, caused an emotional rollercoaster for almost a week afterwards. I've definitely seen it reported by others as well. Hopefully MAL avoids that particular effect...

No internal lability to speak of, in my experience.
 
Got any notes about other routes of administration? Like duration / potency / etc.. ?
 
I mean, the most accurate statement with regards to comparing MAL to any of the 2C family would probably be something along the lines of sweet and sensual fornication between 2C-B and 2C-C, producing a mescalinized phenethylamine character comprising attributes of both the metaphorical "parents."

...wow, I must be tripped out or something

I would attribute the 2C-C likeness to MAL's bodily sensations and 2C-B to MAL's visual properties. Even some 2C-D serenity ensues during the comedown, while we're making comparisons!

I would say this is pretty accurate! My body felt light like 2c-c, but there was more color enhancement that was intense like 2c-b. The colors MAL amplified most for me were browns, yellows, orange.. maybe dark green? Which gave things a color theme sort of like what I get on mescaline (although a bit different). The visual DEPTH was there like mescaline.... things turning 3d (even though i could act totally sober around people) and sorta coming to life. That depth just can't be found in either 2c-b or 2c-c (both of which just tend to blur things or smear things around and amplify colors). I remember looking at cars driving by outside and they looked extra "boxy" which was a cool effect (either more box like or more round... hard to describe).

God I love this chem. I do tend to get bored with the same kind of trip and so its hard to say what is my favorite thing to trip on or make a list, but this one for now is like #1 or #2. I want to take the dose up way higher and also I want to mix it with 4-AcO-DMT. I am usually good at knowing whats good to mix with what, and usually if you have a drug that has odd color enhancement effects (AL-LAD amplifies pastel colors, and mixes really well with 4-AcO-DMT or shrooms which tend to amplify more standard colors) different to the drug that your mixing it with (from a different class like phen/tryp) its usually really spectacular!
 
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