Recreational Buprenorphine Use

[lurching]

My opiate tolerance is nihil so buprenorphine (Subutex) offers me good value, and a very decent long lasting high.

I'll get a 8mg Subutex tablet for about 15 euro (usually the Plough tabs, more recently the generics) and grind it up.

Snorting only 0.3-0.5mg will have me melting away just fine, or up to 1mg in a single dose for a thorough nod (yeah I'm light, and have no tolerance).
Onset is somewhat slow, about 20 minutes for first effects and full effects after an hour or so. Lasts long though! The nod itself can be strong at the proper dose, for me atleast, proper dreamlike scenes.

Qualitatively it feels much more 'complete' than codeine/hydrocodone and although lacking real glow (like gear or morph) it is a very full-bodied effect. Pleasantly stimulating in a lower dose, itchy and sedating when upped.

Who else?

 

[Shambles]

Thanks for the info. Wondered how much you'd enjoy snorting bupe.

 

[lurching]

Yeah, I already had an itch that you were sitting there wondering about it.

Or it may have been just a bupe itch.

*takes anti-histamine, deletes thread*

 

[backroll]

I have plenty of bupe snorting potential sat right next to me...but it ain't happening! I'm saving it for a rainy day (in about a years time!).

When I first got hold of it well before getting scripted the tiniest pinch (i'm guessing less than 0.1) got me licked up.

Good times.

Stick hundreds up your bum, get arrested for a jailable offence, do your bird, stay clean, leave a millionaire

 

[wcote]

Got a nice buzz to hit, quite stimulating.

Never got a nod off it. But still it aint bad, especially if you got no tolerance!

 

[Swarm]

Stick hundreds up your bum, get arrested for a jailable offence, do your bird, stay clean, leave a millionaire

"Now that's a thinking man right there", Stringer Bell

Proof positive that even the most ardent drug career need not leave a man devoid of the truest sense of clarity. Unfortunately, doesn't generally apply for the majority of years spent punching the clock - apparently the closest description of me when I'm "on one" lies somewhere between christian bale in the fighter and charlie sheen, well, in real life. Even just the other day I found myself trying to recall the number of times I've attempted to barricade myself inside of a building. Still, nothing beats this guy I used to know who smoked so much crack he ended up calling the police to his own flat. That's still the bench mark I go by. The day I call the police to my own gaff is the day I finally admit to myself that I'm a fucking mess.

 

[Treacle]

Yes, bupe is definitely recreational. Mixing it with a small amount of strong alcohol, before sticking it under your tongue, or adding a bit of decent mouthwash under your tongue will increase the bioavailability quite a lot. Strong alcohol seems to help it get into your blood much better, via the underside of your tongue. Either that, or plug it. Snorting seems better than normal sub-lingual, but booze assisted sub-lingual is about the same, or, better than plugging. It's a nice drug. Should be what people aiming to get off gear should be heading towards, because methadone doesn't seem to help many people actually get off opiates. At least bupe blocks other opiates, in higher doses.

 

[Myshkin]

It's also a very, very pernicious little bastard when it comes to habituation, especially given the long half-life and the fact that it allows you to continue your daily business with none of the lifestyle complications of a 'normal' addict.

Left to occasional use, I actually prefer it to most opioids. It's so easy to fall into everyday use though, especially as it quickly stops impairing your daily functioning / making you nod but the 'comfort blanket' effect is still there.

Lovely if you have the discipline though.

 

[brimz]

I know a few lads that after doing some time in jail have come oit & don't bother with Heroin anymore Just Crack N Subbies . They usually snort em . Most are of the black market scripted ones have usually spent a bit of time in someone's mouth but they don't seem to worry about that.

I was with a lad other day who was fresh out of Horfield n he was going to the DSP for a bupe script just because he wanted to abuse them !

I've always been on a full OPiod so can't comment on them myself .

I did try n switch from 30ml of methadone to 24mg of Subs way back but it was poorly managed & i failed . Had the switch been more competently done i rekon it would have been successful .

These days i think it should be the go to drug for someone getting a script for OPiate abuse . You have a far better chance with subs than methadone . It is a lot more expensive though .
But the flipside is what i originally said about folk getting subs just for the recreational value where as Methadone doesn't have that .
Methadone Blocks other OPiates in High doese as well Mind . Just in a different way .

 

[amnesiaseizure]

Been on it as maintenance for about 9 months now and down to 3.2mgs. Gotta say that the first couple of hours each morning after i dose are still really pleasant, almost feel quite 'noddy' mixed with the tiredness. Helluva lot more productive than smack too.

 

[K88ABY]

I did try n switch from 30ml of methadone to 24mg of Subs way back but it was poorly managed & i failed . Had the switch been more competently done i rekon it would have been successful.

When you say you failed, did that make you ill??? I always find I still crave heroin while on a bupe script - though methadone takes care of cravings. Even being clean from heroin for a good while - I find that once bupe has lost its magic - that's it - it's gone. I doubt I will ever get a high from buprenorphine again. I know people who've cleaned up from habits that just can't get high from bupe. I dunno what it is. If you can maintain it's use recreationally, fair play to you - OP. I sometimes wish I had.

 

[Mental Kenny]

I want to try this one, I'm interested, it looks like it has a very convenient price to dose ratio, I mean if a 8mg pill goes for 15 euros, and 1 mg has you taken care of for the day it looks like a bargain. Will be on the lookout for some.

 

[K88ABY]

I want to try this one, I'm interested, it looks like it has a very convenient price to dose ratio, I mean if a 8mg pill goes for 15 euros, and 1 mg has you taken care of for the day it looks like a bargain. Will be on the lookout for some.

Ever seen reindeer spotting? 8mg for 15 euros might sound like a bargain to start with. Like anythin I guess.

 

[Mental Kenny]

Ever seen reindeer spotting? 8mg for 15 euros might sound like a bargain to start with. Like anythin I guess.

Watched that yes. That's the thing I'm on daily kratom, which is very pricey as a daily habit, I guess having some buprenorphine at hand for inbetween orders could help me save money, like one week on kratom, one week on subs, if I did that I could halve my expenditure already.

 

[K88ABY]

^^ooooh, interesting. I'm a kratom virgin. Although I'd love to get some. My plan is to reduce on my meth script - so I am safely and comfortably able to jump to bupe, and then taper on the bupe until I can use Kratom. I'd love to know if anyones ever done this and if it worked. Anyway, sorry for the tangent OP - I just wish I was in the position that I could use bupe recreationally. I'll never forget the first time. It was better than any gear I had ever had.
Should probably mention that it was the only time as well that it made me feel out of sorts. Every time since has been a necessity.

 

[Mental Kenny]

There are threads about kratom tapers and opiod substitutions, try using the search button, you should find something useful.

I remember reading a thread on the opiophile forums as well, was quite a detailed thread of someone who switched heroin to methadone to kratom.

 

[lurching]

I liked mixing it with kratom or tramadol, they help fill up the warmth-spectrum.

Or alcohol. Although nowadays I go for pregabalin instead of drink, doesn't depress breathing as much and adds to the glow instead of muddying it up.

Ever seen reindeer spotting? 8mg for 15 euros might sound like a bargain to start with. Like anythin I guess.

My understanding is that bupe works in such a way that anyone, no matter how high his/her tolerance, will get diminished returns in terms of pleasant effects above 2mg. Higher doses are useful to hold off withdrawal in very dependent opiate users, so it isn't a ceiling effect as with codeine, but there is very little 'euphoria' over 2mg. I imagine that this could work self-limiting for some recreational users, as there is little sense in aiming for high doses, making it easier to avoid building up a tolerance.

I'm on daily kratom, which is very pricey as a daily habit, I guess having some buprenorphine at hand for inbetween orders could help me save money, like one week on kratom, one week on subs, if I did that I could halve my expenditure already.

Sure, but I'd keep the buprenorphine doses low as possible so that jumping back onto kratom won't be a disappointing let-down tempting you to stay on bupe *cough*ortakeaoneweekbreak*cough*

Left to occasional use, I actually prefer it to most opioids. It's so easy to fall into everyday use though, especially as it quickly stops impairing your daily functioning / making you nod but the 'comfort blanket' effect is still there.

I concur, it's definitely a "functional" drug that integrates well with most situations and moods. More so than spacy sluggish morphine or itchy short-acting hydrocodone, but bupe's functional comes at the price of some fireworks. What would "occasional use" look like for you, at best?

 

[K88ABY]

There are threads about kratom tapers and opiod substitutions, try using the search button, you should find something useful.

I remember reading a thread on the opiophile forums as well, was quite a detailed thread of someone who switched heroin to methadone to kratom.

I've read the kratom megathread. The guide to switching from bupe looks promising. Unfortunately I've never let myself get to the point that I could put it to the test. I always ruin it when I get some cash in my pocket

 

[Pagey]

Oh yeah bupe's awesome. In fact now that I'm back in Paris (ie bupe capital of the world, I swear, if you go to the right neighborhood you can get some off pretty much anyone) I think I'll be having some fun with that for a couple weeks. Gonna be cool.

 

[Swarm]

Watched that yes. That's the thing I'm on daily kratom, which is very pricey as a daily habit, I guess having some buprenorphine at hand for inbetween orders could help me save money, like one week on kratom, one week on subs, if I did that I could halve my expenditure already.

Keeping tolerance low has been my top priority like ten years or some craziness like that. I tried out lots of different methods over the years. If it was me I would run it much more like kratom one day, bupe the next - with a nice mix of 2 days in a row about the rate of once a week - especially if you have tramadol in your arsenal as it has a cumulative effect, so you can actually get the same high as the first day from around 70 per cent of the dose. It sounds like a joke, i'm sort of laughing right now. I fucking stoned out of my mind on one of those synthetic cannabinoids, typing like 4 words chunks at a weird irregular rate just sort of puntcuating a more or less constant zone out, is my full capacity fright now.


Incedently, i usually take in these in capsules along with a handful of omega 3 fish oils. These provide a great solvent for the cannabinoid, and play their own small but integral part in keeping me in the game. I just did that little bit as a nod to treacles ethanol fueled sublingual techniques. Chemically that is the best solvent to use that i can think of when it comes to how easily absorbed in the blood stream. There are others, like ether, that will do a better job at keeping the drug molecules solvated. I'm gonna go do about 3 etizolams now. That's my biggest weakness now, the etizolams. I got a bit fucked up on them 3 or 4 months back. I was taking between 10 and 15 a day. I quickly implemented an alternation pattern with pyrazolam. Now I'm on about 5 or 6 day one day, and about 10 pyrazolams the next day.


MPA i do more in batches. Force myself to take regular week long breaks on that stuff. Just start pulling 3 day straight benders while trying to hold down a fucking job. I have no idea what this thread is about. Bupe thats it. Went off on a bit of a tangent perhaps. Apologies mods.