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The Big & Dandy Music on Dissociatives Thread

Jesusgreen

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So we have a Big & Dandy Music on Psychedelics Thread, and I only felt it right that dissociatives got a similar thread, as music on dissociatives is something extremely profound that can dramatically alter the trip - more so than it can with a lot of psychedelics in my honest opinion.

So, what kind of music do you guys like listening to when taking your dissociatives? (i.e. Ketamine, DXM, PCP, MXE, Salvia, etc)

I'm a huge fan of Shpongle on dissociatives, and also of glitchy music like Breakbeat. Some of The Chemical Brothers old stuff is g

Some examples:
Shpongle - Around the World in a Tea Daze
Neonlight & Hackage - Nothing Is Safe
The Chemical Brothers - Lost in the K-Hole
FFF - Many Soundbwoy

What about you guys? :)

Feel free to discuss other things relating to music on dissociatives here, like how it can affect the trip, how it sounds etc - you don't just have to share music.
 
I wanted to open the same thread as I'm about to experiment with dissociatives for the first time.
Never had any experience with them so far, but had a conversation recently with a friend of mine, experienced with K, and he said all Raster-Noton stuff is a dedication to Ketamine in his opinion, expecially "Exp" by Frank Bretschneider.

http://www.discogs.com/Frank-Bretschneider-Exp/master/398751
 
light and sound reaches me in frames so music is just jerky and terrible, like waiting for it to buffer.
If something could match up with these frames then that would be cool, but they aren't even perfectly spaced.
 
Jesus! This will be a Big & Dandy soon enough Lol I really enjoy the audio & psychedelic effects of dissociatives but, I guess along with the audio enhancement, they really exacerbate my tinnitus. It can become unbearable :( One time I had to rewatch a couple entire movies coz minxing made the dialogue inaudible. But back when I had mxe (minx we called it) the HD quality to the visual & auditry spectrum was highly pleasant. Loud music, funnily, is an excellent cure for tinnitus ;) Haha...

Also! I actually don't think I can sing, but on mxe, I KNOW I DEFINITELY cannot sing. I'm fucking awful, but only on methoxetamine! Either I'm more attuned to my lack of ability, or mxe makes me unable to sing Lol
 
Going into my first K-hole, I put on Future Sound of London's "Lifeforms" My first K-hole was rather scarey though, and I was much more wrapped up in thinking about when I would return to my body. I used 140mg for the experience. I have found that using slightly less makes the experience more comfortable. I would actually like to use this album for another k-hole, or possibly their album "My Kingdom."

I'd like to try Shpongle with dissociatives. I'd particularly like to listen to "Nothing Lasts But Nothing is Lost." I've listened to "Ineffable Mysteries..." and "Tales of the Inexpressable" in a variety of states. "Nothing Lasts..." though I have not given enough time to. I tried listening to it on MDMA a couple months ago, but the mood wasn't right. Maybe Ketamine will feel better with it.

More recently I listened to a compilation found on Ektoplazm. It was titled "Growing Seeds." Some good psy-trance. I used 60mg of K for the experience. I hadn't used in at least 6 months, and with this new stash I wanted to start small and work my way up. In the past, I had too many overshoots, that made the experience unenjoyable. It is possible that drug interactions during some of those experiences induced unpleasant feelings. Anyways.. this album,
Growing Seeds" was a good accompaniment for my journey back into the realm of ketamine. There were moments where the music would shine through heavily. I recall laughing at one particular segment of sound. I remember my deep, heavy laugh, appearing so distant from myself.


For my next Journey with Ketamine, I think I'm going to listen to the album "ArchAndroid" by Janelle Monáe. I've only given it one lazy listen, but there is something about this album that trips me out. I may listen to it in a variety of altered states if I enjoy future listens. So either that album or I may go for Emptiness, which is another download from ektoplazm; it has more of a down-tempo psychedelic feel.

I'll post back in the coming months. I'm trying to visit K a few times in the next few months. I've got 2 grams. I'm trying to space my journeys out, and slowly build up. A little over a week ago I used 60mg. I think I will move to 80mg next time. Then perhaps go 10mg higher each time after that. I have only attempted snorting the powder. Not really sure how to screw around with needles. I have considered eating it, but it seems to expensive, and the longerlasting effects are not something I want to immerse myself in, right now.

Enjoy!
 
I'm a huge fan of pretty much everything when I'm on dissociatives. I'll go ahead and say that I enjoy Floyd and Zeppelin more than most anything else after a nice bump of MXE though.
 
When on MXE, specially on the M-Hole, I simply can't listen to anything. Music looses deepness, all the bass are gone and what remains is mostly unpleasant. I wonder if anyone has this same effect...
 
for ketamine ambient, drone, beatless stuff with alot of atmospheres.
for other dissociative those as well but down-beat, deep trance/deep house is perfect too
 
I don't listen to dubstep normally but on K some of the older stuff like rusko is always so overwhelming and mindblowing. Broken Social Scene has always been a favourite of mine to listen to while holing on K or MXE, especially http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zv3HmPxSZk. Metanoia by MGMT is really enjoyable as well, the song changes up quite frequently and it really takes the experience in some wild directions. Any post-rock is suitable as well I find.
 
My current dissociative playlist i have set up is the following

Flying Lotus - 1983 -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CybO7XtYpdU

Flying Lotus - Astral Plane - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8E5KnNPt4g

Knife Party - Fire Hive (Original Mix) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdzQPSN2FvE

Flying Lotus - Massage Situation - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIDRIyFgC0

Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLOth-BuCNY


Its pretty generic right now i usually switch it every couple dissosiative trips but i try to get something that can be a soundtrack for a hole or 3rd plateau.
 
Here are my recommendations:

for DXM:

Zolod - Deja Vu Fabrique.
(This masterpiece is uncannily resonant with DXM... the artist took his life before the mastering was completed.)


for Ketamine:

múm - Summer Make Good
(This was recorded while múm was living in a lighthouse in a remote part of Iceland. It is very intimate and the band's chemistry is on another level.
You can visit this distant lighthouse if you take ketamine and listen to this album.)

Freescha - What's Come Inside You; Head Warlock Double Stare
(Freescha could be described as wonky electro space-porn groove, so it is not very well-suited for serious magick. but it is well suited for feeling wonky and spacey on ketamine.)

Ishq - Rainshine in Summerland; Orchid
(Simply the best, most lush, organic, shimmering rainbow ambience ever)
 
velmwend said:
Howz about some early ozric tentacles. Jurrasic Shift? :)
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Gotta love the Ozrics. They don't seem to get much mention these days. More for psyches than dissociatives though, I wonder if they'd be a bit brutal for it at times? Shpongle in a kinda similar vein can certainly drill right through your ears and cave your head in very effectively on MXE.

I used to listen to The Orb a lot on MXE. U.F.Orb in particular perfectly captures the sound the universe makes as it fizzes and pops away to itself while you surf the quantum foam. I think it was O.O.B.E. playing when I experienced the calm and reassuring presence of entities about me that I'd heard so much about and so wanted to experience. Quite, quite beautiful it felt at the time. Very zen somehow. Similarly the KLF's Space seems tailor made for disscociatives also. No surprise given Alex Paterson's input on the origins of it there.

Has anyone else found that if they don't mix the tracks together in Media Player the silence between one track and the next feels very much like being dead?
 
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Sepher said:
Gotta love the Ozrics. They don't seem to get much mention these days. More for psyches than dissociatives though, I wonder if they'd be a bit brutal for it at times? Shpongle in a kinda similar vein can certainly drill right through your ears and cave your head in very effectively on MXE.

I used to listen to The Orb a lot on MXE. U.F.Orb in particular perfectly captures the sound the universe makes as it fizzes and pops away to itself while you surf the quantum foam. I think it was O.O.B.E. playing when I experienced the calm and reassuring presence of entities about me that I'd heard so much about and so wanted to experience. Quite, quite beautiful it felt at the time. Very zen somehow. Similarly the KLF's Space seems tailor made for disscociatives also. No surprise given Alex Paterson's input on the origins of it there.

Has anyone else found that if they don't mix the tracks together in Media Player the silence between one track and the next feels very much like being dead?
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Orbs Peel Sessions ep is worth a whirl too, I had some MDA in the early 90's & coming down from that, listening to the Peel Sessions on loop brought some of the most immersive visuals of my life!

Nice to see FSOL mentioned too. After suffering a serious asthma attack in the mid 90's I was sedated for a week using Ketamine. Waking up was terrifying! But a few days later I was outta ICU & up in a comfy ward, where my gf delivered Lifeforms on a cassette, which had just been released. So my first listen to Lifeforms was tripping on pharmacuetical Ketamine in a hospital ward. After having liquid Ket pumped through my system for a week to induce aneasthesia without depressing breathing, the psychedelic effects lingered somewhat. My audio hallucinations finally eased after about 2 months Lol

& no, my bladder has not ever been quite the same! Hahaha! 8o
 
I can't listen to music on dissociatives. It just doesn't sound right. I often don't need to either because my mind makes up it's own music. I read somewhere that there's a theory some of the inspiration for early dubstep, the way the sub-bass is warped and wobbled, may have came from ketamine. I have no idea if it's true and it probably isn't, but on K and MXE I have heard bassy wobs come from inside me (and also psychedelic-esque riffs that sound like sitar over a tambura drone).

P.S. Actually seeing the post about FSOL, funnily enough I did stick Lifeforms on myself before venturing into an M-hole. I turned it off after a while when I was able to locate the player, because the noise was interfering with the experience. Shame.
 
Propyl Power said:
Here are my recommendations:

for DXM:

Zolod - Deja Vu Fabrique.
(This masterpiece is uncannily resonant with DXM... the artist took his life before the mastering was completed.)
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Thanks, it's awesome. Love it already :D
 
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