Air bubbles & shooting up - Destroying the Myth

[Deus121]

A lot of people comment about air bubbles with shooting up. They hear the urban legeond about a nurse having an air bubble int he syringe and it getting caught in your brain. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN. The reason you do not want any air in the syringe is not because of air getting caught in it, but because when you draw blood to confirm your in a vein, it will cause the blood to start clotting, at some point it will be too thick to push out of the syringe. Plus then you risk injecting a clot into your blood. With 20-40 units that you use for most street drugs, you would beable to inject it faster then it could clot, but if you slip out, or something delays it, your solution could be ruiened. And you waste drug. This is why you want to keep air out of the syringe, not because you will get an air bubble in your brain.

 

[SPEEDCORE]

EVER HEARD OF AN AIR EMBOLISM???
PROB NOT WITH A 100 UNIT SYRINGE BUT IT DEFINATLY IS NOT JUST DUE TO PRODUCING CLOTS!!!

 

[vipvop]

I used to have a picc line in my arm (it's an IV you can keep in for a long time so you don't have to constantly get a new needle in your arm for your IV - it's a long tube that goes in your vein for about 50 cm) and the nurse said I could get up to a couple CCs of air into it before it would become a problem, but it still isn't recommended to get air in your vein. Also, I thought an air bubble fucked up your heart and not your brain, but Im really not sure, anyone else know?

 

[Ravin Tigger]

BULLSHIT
I have a friend of a friend, who's uncle's friend, has a friend that died from a .01 cc air bubble.....
be warned.
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[This message has been edited by Ravin Tigger (edited 28 August 2001).]

 

[day_for_night]

a small bubble of air simply disolves into your blood...
embolisoms happen when a large amount of air is injected.

 

[romancat]

Quoting William S. Burroghs : "If air bubbles killed... there wouldn't be a junkie alive" (or something to the same effect ,I don't remember the exact words). To get an embolism you need 2/3 cc of air, 3 full insulin rigs!

 

[hazed]

as a health care worked for over 20 years I can tell you that it takes more than 1 cc to get an air embolism. I was told by many drs and IV sales reps that it would take a whole IV tube full before you needed to worry.
I can atest to the above as a person who let many an air bubble slip into pts veins without adverse effects.
ANd yes, the smaller air bubbles just disolve

 

[PhreeX]

I guess I just gotta toss in my 2 thousandths of a twenty - air bubbles won't hurt you or kill you, and it takes morethena full CC of air before you run any risk...
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[TheTripDoctor]

Here guys i am somewhat of an EXTREEM example, but in the er about 2 months ago for pain, i was given an iv catheter and then an iv set was connected that had already been connected to the saline bag but NOT PRIMED, ie it had the WHOLE TUBING, AND the fill chamber FULL OF AIR, this nurse attached the set and let the WHOLE IV SET of air go in my vein, after this i was given 125mg demerol iv so it wasnt as bad, but i DEFINATELY felt very very bad after the air was in, i didnt die, i didnt have any consequenses but i KNEW something was wrong.
Im lucky to be here i think, if that set held over 10cc of air im lucky to be alive, but it may not have, the priming volume on a 68" iv set is more like 12.5cc from what i just looked at, an abbot iv set container.
Lesson is, always watch any nurse doing something to you, THEY FUCK UP OFTEN, ALMOST 60% ERROR RATE IN MOST OF AMERICA, and also to be damn careful with iv therapy and for fucks sake, take the damn air bubbles out of the syringe full you plan on using.
~Steve
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