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MDMA & Amoxicillin. 1st time. WARNING about antibiotics & ecstasy

Psychubus

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I haven't had time to make a proper trip report out of this, but I would like to take the time to post a short summary of my experience with Amoxicillin (prescribed antibiotic) and 2 ecstasy pills (Yellow & Red AOL).

I rarely ever take ecstasy because I have not been able to feel its effects in over a year and a half (everybody I've asked this about says I've fucked my serotonin receptors from too much stimulant use). But my friend gave me a yellow and a red AOL for free, under the condition that I double plug them (lolol, you see why I am the way that I am?). I've plugged 4-5 green toyotas and a green omega once upon a night in 2005, so I wasn't particularly worried about double plugging, despite the fact that I've heard from 2-3 other friends that the yellow AOL's were one of the best rolls around. In fact, I was so confident that I wouldn't feel a damn thing that I pre-loaded with about 4 5-HTP pills beforehand.

After giving myself an enema and bootybumping, we decided to move locations; I was still in the car when the pills started kicking in. I suddenly became freezing fucking cold but sweating like crazy and shaking like mad. There were parts of my body that were scorching hot and other parts that were freezing cold; I couldn't tell if I was possibly getting hypothermia or hyperthermia. I also felt delirious, mumbling as if I was in an entirely different scenario with different people around. Though I am normally good with remembering to drink water, this time I was not thirsty one bit. My friend had to keep forcing me to hydrate myself, asking me repeatedly if I needed to go to the hospital. I knew by the condition that I was in that I could pull through (trust me, even cotton fever is worse and I've had that at least 4x from my recollection), so I firmly kept replying with "NO."

I didn't think I had to go anyway, until two of my hands started tingling and went numb--and that's when I started freaking out. I am an injection user, and usually this is the beginning sign of dry gangrene and possible amputation... so I immediately started putting gloves on, doing hand exercises, blowing warm breath on my fingers, pretty much anything to keep the circulation running through my limbs again. Within 20 minutes of doing so (and my friend helping me thank god), I could feel sensation through my palms again, and after about 2 hours I was almost fully recovered.

edit: I forgot to mention urination. I wasn't able to go for a few hours, but once I went to go take a piss (yes, it was in public lol), it smelled really strong, to the point that my friend from 10 feet away could smell it and even commented about it hahahaha. If you like strong smelling piss and are a fan of watersports, try this mix it's great!

I did a search later on bluelight and found this: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=218134&postcount=1

This only makes me wonder... my friend was originally trying to convince me to quadruple-bootybump... what would have happened if I had taken him up on his offer? X-D

There were other parts that I left out of this report, including how I self-medicated myself with GHB, alcohol, weed, and xanax and woke up in a fucking forest, how I got drugged (NOT BY CHOICE) with mescaline & PCP and then bceame super para of the events to come, bla bla alskdfjalskjflaskfjasd but it's not related to any of this so saved for anothjer day.
 
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5-HTP weakens the effects of MDMA if taken hours or even a day or two before. Everyone should know anti biotics and MDMA don't mix, you just ruined your schedule and will have to start over again with a new pack.
 
so you took MDMA with antibiotics and got cold sweats, loss of sensation in limbs, and a bunch of nasty other shit?

Sounds pretty fucked up.... I'd take it easy for the next few days.
 
edit: this post was in response to splatt

^^ wrong, 3 of my friends preloaded with 5 capsules of 5-HTP while on red roosters, and each of them said it was one of the best rolls of their lives.

and no offense but i trust the advice of these guys way more lololol

lycaeumite member says.............
Amoxicillin, Erythromycin and a few other antibiotics are known to have MAO inhibiting properties. You may have given yourself serotonin syndrone, and preloading with 5-HTP would only make this worse.

youre giving me shit for not knowing about antibiotics & mdma, yet you dont even know the effects of 5-htp with mdma? furthermore, if you read the thread, its only CERTAIN antibiotics that inhibit the enzyme in the liver that mdma does. go read about it K
 
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Well you and your friends are special...
Most people report 5-HTP lessens the effects of a roll. And Amoxicillin is one of the non-MDMA friendly anti biotics, i have researched it.

I was going to write 5-HTP with MDMA can give you serotonin syndrome, but that hasn't been proven, but it might be possible. People have reported nasty SS-like effects when having too much 5-HTP before waiting for the peak or MDMA effects to end.
 
It seems like you'd at least have read about how MDMA can weaken the immune system by now. If you are on antibiotics, you don't need a weakened immune system to begin with, let alone complications from mixing medications that should not be mixed.

If you keep learning AFTER you do something, instead of before, you are going to die.
 
fizzacyst said:
It seems like you'd at least have read about how MDMA can weaken the immune system by now. If you are on antibiotics, you don't need a weakened immune system to begin with, let alone complications from mixing medications that should not be mixed.

If you keep learning AFTER you do something, instead of before, you are going to die.

yea, but ive read about that too with meth, and it seems that i never get sick when i'm on meth; it's only after i havent had it for a couple days and the drug starts getting out of my system, that i am more prone to sicknesses
 
Splatt said:
5-HTP weakens the effects of MDMA if taken hours or even a day or two before. Everyone should know anti biotics and MDMA don't mix, you just ruined your schedule and will have to start over again with a new pack.

I wouldn't say it weakens it, but rather, it significantly increases negative side effects if taken beforehand.
 
Some idiot tweaker once told me meth "speeds up" the immune system. I asked if he meant CNS, and he said "whats CNS?" No it speeds up the immune system so its harder to get sick. What a load of bullshit. God i hate dumb tweakers.
 
nuke said:
I wouldn't say it weakens it, but rather, it significantly increases negative side effects if taken beforehand.

I completely agree with that. 5-HTP may not really weaken the experience but it definately does increase the negative side-effects significantly (which can in turn lead to an experience that is less enjoyable).

5-HTP is best for AFTER you roll.
 
Splatt said:
Some idiot tweaker once told me meth "speeds up" the immune system. I asked if he meant CNS, and he said "whats CNS?" No it speeds up the immune system so its harder to get sick. What a load of bullshit. God i hate dumb tweakers.

Meth DOES speed up your immune system--it will also speed up all other systems in your body for the time being. Think about how fast bacteria grows, and the amount of time it takes for your B-cells to recognize bacteria/viruses/other parasites and for your T-cells to kill it off.

Why do you think that a fat shot of meth immediately cures cotton fever?
 
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Yeah that's why people who take meth all the time never get sick.....
 
Splatt said:
Yeah that's why people who take meth all the time never get sick.....

They get sick because of lack of sleep and malnutrition and it generally happens on the comedown or after the drug has left your system.

When I was tweaking everyday, I went for about half a year before getting sick. I got sick cause I finally ran out of my stash lol
 
Extreme brain damage for breakfast, lunch and tea... God I'm glad meth is seriously overpriced where I live.
But C'mon, you must be aware of how bad meth is for your immune system. If you caught the HIV virus somehow. do you know how quickly you would get AIDS and deteriorate if you used meth. On meth your sores do not heal. etc..
 
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Yeah brain damage is pretty sad, especially if they were those precious brain cells of yours, seeing as how you probably implement them in the most intelligent ways humanly possible (I'm not being sarcastic I swear, this is merely upon speculation lololol). sigh... Oh well, there goes another Harvard alumni, what another tragic loss. 8( As the motto goes: IF YOU DONT USE IT, LOSE IT.

Personally, I don't give a damn what meth does anymore. I'm rooming with someone who monitors my use and curbs my habit. Living with bi/m swingers is the shit.
 
Ok you have proved once again you have an IQ of below 90 and a complete learning disability.
 
Oh, were you talking about this piece that you wrote at the end?

Splatt said:
But C'mon, you must be aware of how bad meth is for your immune system. If you caught the HIV virus somehow. do you know how quickly you would get AIDS and deteriorate if you used meth. On meth your sores do not heal. etc..

I didn't even bother responding to that because I thought you were being sarcastic, seeing as how every bit of information you've written in this thread has been DEAD WRONG. But since I have to inform you, sores do not heal on meth because of irritation from inflammatory response and anti-histamine release. If your immune system is overworked those are the symptoms that you are SUPPOSED to get. Similar concept to antibiotics such as cephalexin causing long-lasting bruises in the body.

Again, let me re-iterate why your body will deteriorate if you have HIV and are on meth. If you have been diagnosed with HIV and immediately take a shot of meth afterwards, it will help fight the HIVE virus, BUT ONLY TEMPORARILY. Once you come down, anything that may have helped will only rebound and make weaker 10x than what it originally was.
 
So therefore in the end it only makes your immune system deficient.
 
Splatt said:
So therefore in the end it only makes your immune system deficient.

Yes, there is a "crash" period, during which time you have to stay well-fed and well-rested with no relapse, otherwise you will increase your likelihood of sickness. But once you get back in the regular cycle of living, your entire system should be back to normal anywhere between a couple days to a couple months (depending on how heavy of a user you are, how physically fit/active you are, how young you are, if you are in a stable environment, etc.). Extreme cases (10-20+ years of chronic meth use) may take much longer, but remember that they are generally older and in piss-poor physical shape.
 
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