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Violence erupts at Cronulla | mob 5000 attack couple

Violence erupts at Cronulla December 11, 2005 - 6:20PM

Police have been pushed, pelted with beer bottles and had their patrol cars stomped on as violence worsens at Sydney's Cronulla Beach.

Racial tension turned to violence today as at least 5000 angry people converged on the beach after simmering anger and disputes between beach users flared last week.

An ambulance spokesman said crews had treated at least five people after pockets of violence broke out among the crowd.

At least two of those would require hospital treatment, he said.

No details about their injuries were available. The two most seriously injured were at the Cronulla Surf Lifesaving Club, he said.

He could not comment on a report that a girl of Middle Eastern appearance had been pushed over and was kicked repeatedly as she lay on the ground.

Reporters at the scene said groups of young men had been seen hurling beer bottles at police cars.

Crowds also swarmed around police vehicles, stomping on them and preventing them from moving through the troubled community's foreshore area.

Roads have been closed down in the area and some traffic lights are out.
Police are also standing guard at the kiosk adjoining the surf club, where roller doors have been pulled down as the violence continues.

Six people have been arrested and four people have been charged, a NSW police spokesman said.

A 28-year-old Cronulla man has been charged with affray and a 17-year-old Cronulla youth has been charged with assault police.

The pair will face Sutherland Local Court at a date to be fixed.

Two people - a 16-year-old Sutherland boy, and 33-year-old Kareela man - have been charged with offensive conduct.

The 33-year-old will also face Sutherland Local Court at a later date.

It was not known how the youth's charge will be handled.

Anther two people have been arrested and are being questioned at Miranda police station.

No charges have been laid.

Witnesses at the beach reported seeing police use capsicum spray to subdue at least one man.

A reporter at Cronulla station, where violence has also flared, said police were involved in a physical struggle with a group trying to board a train.
They used capsicum spray to subdue the group.

It was not clear if any of the arrests related to earlier witness reports of at least three men being pursued and attacked as they tried to get away from angry members of the crowd chasing them on foot.

At least two of the men took refuge at Northies Pub, where police gathered to protect them, Macquarie Radio reported.

Broken beer bottles scattered Elouera Road, which runs along the foreshore, with many in the crowd drinking heavily. Police have had to close the road to traffic at times.

Mounted police and other units are maintaining a heavy presence at the beach today after two rival groups used text messages to urge attacks on each other.

Some of the text messages encouraged people to carry out vigilante style attacks, and some message had racial undertones.

One of the messages had urged "Aussies" to take revenge against "Lebs and wogs". Another urged locals to rally at points on the beach today to take retaliation against "Middle-Eastern" gangs.

As the crowd moved along the beach and foreshore area today, one man on the back of a ute began to shout "No more Lebs" - a chant picked up by the group around him.

Others in the crowd, carrying Australian flags and dressed in Australian shirts, yelled "Aussie, Aussie, Aussie ... Oi, Oi, Oi".

North Cronulla Beach, in Sydney's south, was the scene of two violent incidents last week - an attack on two lifesavers on Sunday and a brawl later in the week in which youths turned on a media crew.

Two ambulance officers were injured when an angry mob attacked their vehicle.

The ambulance was transporting six injured youths under police escort when the crowd descended upon the vehicle and began hurling beer bottles.

Windows on the ambulance were shattered and its panelling dented from kicking.

A NSW Ambulance spokesman said one officer was hit in the head with a bottle as it passed through a broken window.

A second ambulance officer received lacerations to the arm. A police officer in the vehicle was not hurt.

The six patients were taken to an area away from the crowd where they were assessed by doctors.

One patient was taken to St George Hospital with unspecified but minor injuries.

The other five were released.

Dozens of people have been treated for minor cuts and bruises, and some have been decontaminated for capsicum spray, the spokesman said.

Meanwhile, Sydney's Islamic community has blamed the violence on what it calls racist and irresponsible sections of the media.

Islamic Friendship Association of Australia president Keysar Trad said the violence was "bound to happen" because of racist rhetoric on Sydney talkback radio throughout the week.

"Sections of the media took this issue far too far and one can only surmise that the way this issues was dealt with on talkback radio amounts to incitement," Mr Trad said.

He said the media turned a common youth issue into an issue of ethnicity.

"One wonders how much further this can go before those people on talkback radio become more responsible," he said.

He said the racist chants show people are not acting rationally, but are "filled with hatred".

Premier Morris Iemma and Police Minister Carl Scully have warned people against taking the law into their own hands.

"Let there be no mistake - if anyone comes to this beach on the weekend with the intention of causing trouble, the police will respond with the full force of the law to maintain order," Mr Iemma said yesterday.

"It's time for everyone involved in this to just calm down."

AAP
 
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hmmmm, I have numerous comments I could make, but maybe for the moment I will keep my bleedin mouth shut an all.
 
I am so fucking pissed off - just looking at the images of a couple (possibly arab but of course you can't be certain) be completed fucked on by a drunked spastic yob (actually calling these people spastics is a insult to the disabled).

How can they fuck take OUR LIVES into their hands. You can bet a fucking million dollars half the arab gangs of Sydney are getting ready for retribution and these gangs, with their guns & wealth, have the incilination & stupidity to start tit for tat violence.

Anyone use the train going out west is going to have fun day when a mob of drunken arabs feels like acting out a "reverse Cronulla".

This goes beyond a bunch of lifesavers giving a bit of lip to testerone fuelled "lebs".

Getting drugs & living in this city you come to realise that arab youths for the most part are marganlised so badly that it normally takes a wrong look in their direction to set them off (whether that's right or not is no excuse to take to violence).

Stupid fucking dumb mob, protecting "their beach" has only resulted at putting the entire city risk. fucking stupid beach bums, who gives a fuck, beaches suck summer is fucked (i'll let Bill Hicks enlighten you why).

grrrr
 
but I suppose bashing up a 15 year old life guard with 9 of your mates is the "right" thing to do?

sure, some people today went overboard but in general what was seen on the news was most of the youth of the shire out in protest to tell the wankers that come and intimidate beach locals that they aren't to be pushed around.
 
^ I second that. I support the Local Cronulla people in fighting back. Sure, they probably didn't do it in the most amicable of manners, but it was always going to be done. It is a problem at the southern beaches, there has always been a strong contingent of Western Suburbs lads looking for trouble in numbers, and yes, prodominately their race is middle eastern. Excuse the stereotype, but I think they should stick to street racing their cars in Blacktown, and leave the surfing to us. I pray they never make it to the Northern Beaches.

Signat
 
chugs said:
Some of the text messages encouraged people to carry out vigilante style attacks, and some message had racial undertones. One of the messages had urged "Aussies" to take revenge against "Lebs and wogs". Another urged locals to rally at points on the beach today to take retaliation against "Middle-Eastern" gangs.

As the crowd moved along the beach and foreshore area today, one man on the back of a ute began to shout "No more Lebs" - a chant picked up by the group around him.

Others in the crowd, carrying Australian flags and dressed in Australian shirts, yelled "Aussie, Aussie, Aussie ... Oi, Oi, Oi".

Islamic Friendship Association of Australia president Keysar Trad said the violence was "bound to happen" because of racist rhetoric on Sydney talkback radio throughout the week.

"Sections of the media took this issue far too far and one can only surmise that the way this issues was dealt with on talkback radio amounts to incitement," Mr Trad said.

there is enough video footage. the guy on the ute and those like him including the shock jocks and those who sent text msgs should be charged under the new terrorism laws for inciting violence. if it's good enough for extremist muslims it's good enough for blond haired, blue eyed surfer boys and loud mouthed talkback hosts.

chugs said:
I am so fucking pissed off - just looking at the images of a couple (possibly arab but of course you can't be certain) be completed fucked on by a drunked spastic yob (actually calling these people spastics is a insult to the disabled).

yes it is.

keystroke said:
but I suppose bashing up a 15 year old life guard with 9 of your mates is the "right" thing to do?

Signat said:
^ I second that. I support the Local Cronulla people in fighting back. Sure, they probably didn't do it in the most amicable of manners, but it was always going to be done.
^^^to both...
He could not comment on a report that a girl of Middle Eastern appearance had been pushed over and was kicked repeatedly as she lay on the ground.
 
^^ Whatever (directed at Signat and keystroke). They're just being racist under the premise of being "Australians". They're just a drunken group of wankers. Let the police handle the situation.

It's disgusting what happened today.
 
They can't be everywhere and they're not psychic. And that is some weak bloody justification.
 
sometimes i think your fucking troll, just one with 13,000 posts.

How can you justify the violence of 5,000 against two people?.....no matter what they've done there is no FUCKING EXCUSE FOR MOB VIOLENCE.
 
What the FUCK?! I don't understand this at all. Walk the FUCK away and live your lives decently you fucking spastic dickheads. :X
 
keystroke said:
but I suppose bashing up a 15 year old life guard with 9 of your mates is the "right" thing to do?

if they weren't lifesavers this entire matter wouldn't have ended up on the front page.

It would of been a small paragraph in the local rag about how there was a small fight on a beach.

Instead you fucked up nationalistic (but completely ignorant about what it means) wankers use it as an excuse to shit your frustrations out - that's why a drunken mob of 5,000 people were waiting for any excuse.

What you think they just turned up to go to the beach?

Yeah right
 
oh, you're right THR, how many people exactly have been charged over the bashing of the 15 year old life guard?

it takes real tough "men" to bash a 15 year old volunteer in a large group.
 
chugs said:
sometimes i think your fucking troll, just one with 13,000 posts.

How can you justify the violence of 5,000 against two people?.....no matter what they've done there is no FUCKING EXCUSE FOR MOB VIOLENCE.



see the bit in my first post where I said
some people today went overboard
?

8)

but the majority was there to show their support of the locals and of what happened during the week but also to say that these gangs are no longer going to be tolerated.

a quote from the Herald Sun, for those who can't read.

He said the bulk of the crowd had behaved but pockets of violence had broken out.
 
keystroke said:
oh, you're right THR, how many people exactly have been charged over the bashing of the 15 year old life guard??

Last report i read two people had been charged over the brawl and they were 19 & 20 (the lifesavers) not 15

Don't belittle this by claiming people went overboard. This was a fucking riot yet the police were constrained by the fact that it was a wealthy middle/up class suburb. Where were fucking riot police - just imagine the political fall out of riot police smashing into a bunch of little johnny, philips & Alex's our darling little sons.

Take a poor suburb and the riot police are out in force.

Where your indignation for the rule of law when Police were pelted with glass bottles and run down by the mob.

Did you see how many people were outside the fucking pub. That was a fucked up mob itching for any excuse to expell their racist diarrhea.

With you it's people have to obey the law the country (say when that person is being executed) and then the next moment your just casually passing off massive attacks on the fabric of our very society as a minor over response.

Can't even stay consistent when you argue
 
how haven't I been consistant in this thread so far?

the reporters are saying that most people were fine, acted sensible and were well behaved. that they were just there to protest against these "gangs" coming to the beach suburbs.

others went to the extreme and went overboard by throwing bottles, etc.

this has nothing to do with some fuckhead being executed, but everything to do with people from both sides of Sydney going overboard. As I'm sure there are ethnic people that use the beach properly, take their rubbish with them and cause no troubles. exactly like the locals.
 
Just as lifesavers being bashed last week was wrong :( ,what happened today was wrong also.There is no excuse for what happened last week, and what happened today.

Regarding todays events - Showed the sign of an ugly Australia and a non-thinking 'racist mob mentality'.Blindly following the main stream media and talk back radio that stirred up racist hate.
Those people being violent today,were embarassing, and using patrotism in the worst way was a sick joke.They should NOT seek 'revenge' on what happened last week,let police do there job and NOT attack innocent people based on their ethic background.
 
Beach residents heckle Premier
By Alyssa Braithwaite
December 09, 2005

ANGRY Cronulla residents today heckled New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma when he tried to reassure them that their beaches would be safe from violence this weekend.

Addressing media at a news conference in a Cronulla park near the beachfront, Mr Iemma was shouted down by locals as he appealed for calm and warned that troublemakers would be met with the full force of the law.

North Cronulla Beach, in Sydney's south, has been the scene of two incidents in the past week - an attack on two lifeguards on Sunday and a brawl later in the week in which youths turned on a media crew.

Police have pledged to prevent further attacks, and Mr Iemma and Police Minister Carl Scully were today briefed on their plans at Cronulla police station by Assistant Commissioner Mark Goodwin.

Residents have complained of harassment by visiting groups of young men, claiming it is so offensive that some locals no longer use the beach.






A group of residents who had gathered to hear what the officials had to say tried to interrupt the conference.

"Nice political speech," residents shouted at Mr Iemma.

A number of text messages this week began circulating among residents of the Sutherland Shire, calling for vigilantes to target unwelcome visitors to the popular tourist beach on Sunday.

About 60 police will patrol North Cronulla Beach over the weekend, and a Polair helicopter will also be deployed.

At today's press conference, Mr Iemma said no one should take the law into their own hands.

"Let there be no mistake, if anyone comes to this beach on the weekend with the intention of causing trouble the police will respond with the full force of the law to maintain order," Mr Iemma said.

"It's time for everyone involved in this to just calm down.

"This is not a time for anyone to take the law into their own hands."

Mr Scully, who said the troublemakers were "un-Australian", promised more police would be made available if they were needed.

"It's Australian to enjoy a beach and have a picnic with your family, it's un-Australian to call for arms and behave like vigilantes," Mr Scully said.

Mr Iemma, Mr Scully and Mr Goodwin quickly left as anger rose among the onlookers.

"Who's supposed to defend us?" a resident who gave his name as John said to reporters.

"(The gangs) just laugh at the police.

"The gangs come here and cause trouble, harass everybody, and steal."

Cronulla resident Wade Dyson said he would take matters into his own hands if trouble broke out this weekend.

"We need to show them we've got numbers too, then they might see," Mr Dyson said.

"I'll defend my friends if anything happens.


taken from The Australian 20 minutes ago.
 
I have no doubt there are groups of 'middle eastern' men who go to the beaches simply to stir up trouble just as I have no doubt that it requires little provocation for 'australian' groups to jump on some screwed up patriotic bandwagon.

The mob mentality is a powerful thing.
 
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