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Zen Buddhism

soundsystem00 said:
I would REALLY like to read some more on zen buddhism. I would google it, but want to find the right documentation.
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alan watts has being mentioned, ive being listening to a lot of his lecture lately, thanks to you tube
he is great if you are new to all those oriental concepts and how they contrast inside a westerner point of view
 
TheAppleCore said:
The point is, if you don't know anything about Zen, then whether or not you've attained enlightenment is meaningless, because you won't have any awareness of the fact, which is the magic key, and goal of the entire practice, as I understand it.

Put another way, if you don't know you shouldn't try to "find" or "do" anything, you'll undoubtedly end up in an endless and paradoxical search for enlightenment, because it is human nature to seek what we desire.
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Once you advance a step in consciousness you will know. They're mental break throughs or revelations if you will, that come from realizing the truth of a concept, but not only that, they cause you to reject a formal behavior somewhat passively and/or find it wholly ignorant of you to have engaged in it; or realize the futility of that set of actions. very similar to people's description of NDE.

Also According to most other forms of Buddhism I'm all but one step from total enlightenment. Haha, which is bullshit haha.

I follow philosophical or as I call it non bastardized Daoism. Which I would also suggest OP checks out. To build towards as emptiness (as a Buddhist would) is a futile effort. (or enlighten yourself as a way to stop being a self) Taoism teaches that the fulfillment of following The Path [wu wei] (there is no path but your path, and your path is not THE PATH. Everyone has their own path but they are all the path). Or the fulfillment of self by ACTING with the path as to be INACTIVE .

Thirty spokes meet at a nave;
Because of the hole we may use the wheel.
Clay is moulded into a vessel;
Because of the hollow we may use the cup.
Walls are built around a hearth;
Because of the doors we may use the house.
Thus tools come from what exists,
But use from what does not.

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The Way takes no action, but leaves nothing undone.
When you accept this
The world will flourish,
In harmony with nature.

Nature does not possess desire;
Without desire, the heart becomes quiet;
In this manner the whole world is made tranquil.
 
this is it SS00, alll you will maybe ever need to educate or entertain yourself with.
haha - goodLuck!!!! FFS

1 - http://files.krishna.com/en/pdf/e-books/Krsna_Book.pdf
^Krsna Book


2 - http://www.africawithin.com/kemit/Egyptian Book of the Dead.pdf
^Egpytian Book of the Dead

3 - http://ftp.buddhism.org/Publications/IABTC/Vol09_05_Annie Shapiro.pdf
^Tibetan Book of the Dead

4 - http://www.aina.org/books/eog/eog.pdf
EPiC oF GiLGaMeSH
Babylonia

5 - D. Hofstadter: Godel Escher Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid - in the spirit of Lewis Carrol
is extraordinary....dig through this entirely, maybe over the course of five years, and you will never be the same.!

Life Love & Light
 
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