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Your philosophy on tipping?

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MynameisnotDeja said:
Hmm..okay my first comment/question: Where do you guys live that you are getting paid around 2 dollars an hour? Minumum wage in California is $6.75 an hour. But isn't there a FEDERAL minumum wage as well? It says so on the employee information poster thing at my work anyway..it says it's like at least 5 something an hour, for all of the USA. So how can you guys be paid so little per hour? Anyone..?
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they're tipped employees, and the last i knew the min wage for tipped employees was $2.35. basically, that $2.35 will cover the tax being taken out of their tips. most servers, if they claimed 100% of their tips, would end up owing uncle sam $ on each pay check. what a fuckin system eh? the restraunt owner pays a slave wage, charges the customer twice for a product, and the government rakes in a pay check... what a fuckin country

sidebar: randycaver didnt say anything different from most of the people in this thread. calm the fuck down and go roll some silverware for me.

*edit* kyk i agree with your original post completely. you can also add the "chuch crowd" into the very poor tipping catagory
 
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I'm a good tipper but I have no sympathy for the whiners in this thread.

It has been said a hundred times over, if you don't like it; get another fucking job.
If this is really the vocation you want to spend your time doing, move to an area where people either tip well or they have proper laws regarding wages.

I also find it incredible that some of you are saying if you can't afford the tip don't eat out.
If it means that much to you shit show me the way to the kitchen and I'll carry my own dishes. LMAO.

I don't need you dropping your hairs all over my food and breathing over it just so I can pay you to walk from a door to a table.

My office job involves pressure which from some of the pompous attitudes shown here you have no idea about whatso ever. I have deadlines and people paying my employer for me to be their expert. I doubt there is a waiter in the world who is kept up at night worrying about finishing a project to a deadline or the anticipation of meeting a new client in an important deal where your work could make of brake the company.

In my line of work there is little room for me to ever make mistakes.
And I can tell you after flying across the country, staying in shitty hotels and working my butt of for an ungrateful customer I certainly don't get tipped.

But I knew this was a part of my job before I joined so I accept it.

What add's insult to injury is that from some of the figures you guys are quoting you are still doing better than me.

You should be grateful of the job your in or find another one, I can't belive this cruccial point seems to fly over your heads.

Anyway I'm sure I'm going to be seen as an asshole for my comments but this thread has really got up my nose. No one is forcing you to work in the service industry. 8(
 
I've tipped 15 percent for normal service as far back as can remember, but frankly over time I've grown to resent it.

I was out for dinner last night and the tip at 15 percent was $6. When I add it up, the time our server spent dealing with our order, refilling our coffee cups and cleaning the table afterward was - tops - 5 minutes.

So assuming she split it 50-50 with the cook (which I can't confirm), her portion was still a cool $36/hour.

Eating at a half-decent restaurant is costly. Then I'm expected to pay my servers wages directly out of my own pocket because the industry operates on slave-labour wages?

The hardest part to swallow is the expectation that being polite to their customers - something we all usually do for free every day - automatically means they deserve 15%.

Politeness and service I should damn well get for the price listed on the menu. I wouldn't take less in any other industry, it shouldn't come with an implied surcharge in this one.
 
Petersko, I think you're missing a crucial point.

The menu price is irrelevant to the server(s). We're free agents - If I know you, I'll gladly give you discounts, free food/beverages and break the rules - I work for tips. Fuck the corporate swine who employ me.

If you bitch about prices, I agree - They're too high.

If you ask about an item on the menu and I don't like it, I'll damn well tell you it sucks, don't get it.

You want free refills on chocolate milk? Just ask! - If I can make your experience better by working over the system, then pay ME what YOU think is fair. My job is to make you happy, not be held accountable for the restaurant I happen to be working in.

We're FREE AGENTS.

I work for you, the customer - not the employer.
 
The day you show me some paperwork proving your status as a contractor and not an employee is the day I'll accept your free agency.

If not, and you are indeed a legal employee of the restaurant, then you ARE accountable.
 
cravNbeets said:
they're tipped employees, and the last i knew the min wage for tipped employees was $2.35. basically, that $2.35 will cover the tax being taken out of their tips. most servers, if they claimed 100% of their tips, would end up owing uncle sam $ on each pay check. what a fuckin system eh? the restraunt owner pays a slave wage, charges the customer twice for a product, and the government rakes in a pay check... what a fuckin country
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I'm so glad to live in California because it's not like that here..well not at any of the jobs I have had anyways. I make $7 per hour plus whatever tips I get..and I only declare the credit card tips. So whatever I take home, I take tax free. Fuck the government, they don't know about it.

I think that is SO messed up to only pay someone $2.35 an hour. What if they have a night of all customers that don't tip? They just get nothing? They shouldn't assume on the tips like that..it isn't fair to the employees.

I just can't believe that. What states are like this? Because I sure will never move anywhere that the laws are like that.
 
Mr Pink

I don't tip because society says I have to. Alright, I mean I'll tip if somebody really deserves a tip, if they really put forth the effort, I'll give 'em something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically is for the birds.


I mean as far as I'm concerned they're just doing their job.
 
The day you show me some paperwork proving your status as a contractor and not an employee is the day I'll accept your free agency.
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When did you get so old and crotchety? ;)

I didn't mean technically - but that's my mindset when I go into work.
 
One thing that really bugs me is when I'm out with people, lay down some bills for a tip, and they ask "Is that 20%?"

WTF

The 11th Commandment is not "Thou shalt tip twenty percent".

Usually if its a small order I'll tip up to 40% (although you won't see me doing any math to figure it out). On big orders or more expensive places I won't tip near 20%. I'm sorry but just because the food costs more doesn't mean the server did more work.

Besides, I like to give my cash to those who least expect it.

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People who think there is a universal tipping standard bug me.
 
^Exactly. Thats why I think the percentage thing is bull.
It isn't harder to carry a tray of food to a table that is worth $60 compared to $20. Obviously if the bill is higher because you ordered 15 plates of food that is one thing. I am talking about more expensive restaurants.
 
Squeaks said:
In Pennsylvania Minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.83 an hour

There is a federal minimun wage law but thats for non-tipped employess something like $5.15 or so(been a waiter so long I forget)

Every state has different individual tipped employee minimums BUT also every state also has to compensate a tipped employee if thier tips PLUS thier hourly wage don't equal $5.15 an hour per the federal standard
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It's only $2.13 in Ohio.
 
i would rather tip the waiters/waitresses at waffle house/steak n shake more than the people at nice expensive restaurants b/c the people that work at places like waffle house probably need it more.
 
people who work in the nice expensive restaurants need it just as much as lower class restaurants...

Their average people just like the rest of us. Just people who work in fancier restaurants... probably clean up better or have been in the business much longer.

I also would like to comment on the more expensive food comment...

I don't just a bigger tip on the cost of the dinner... I work in a restaurant that is highly consentrated on alcohol. And if a person drinks a $10 glass of wine.... and sometimes more than one.. it's really sad when your a shitty tipper... that usually makes most of our checks high...not only that but appetizers, dessert, coffee... etc.
 
When did you get so old and crotchety?
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Whippersnapper!

It's just I've had to fire people before who didn't understand that they, as the face of the company that the client sees, did in fact represent the company.

I'm not going to stop tipping - I just resent it, and I think the amounts in North America are really excessive.
 
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