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Your NHS Healthcare Records Are Being Sold - What Can You Do?

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For those who don't know about this, which is most people (since the government snuck this out very quietly and with minimal notice, aside from a few shiny flyers in the leaflet racks of GP practices which most people aren't even allowed to visit at the moment...), as part of ongoing plans to further privatise and dilute your NHS care, the Tories intend to provide permanent access to your full medical history to (essentially) any company or organization that wants it.

Your consent has already been assumed unless you register a Type-1 Opt-out preference and either post or email that opt-out to your GP surgery, on the appropriate form, by this coming JUNE 23rd.

To clarify: this opt-out will not prevent the Tories from handing over your entire medical history to any number of profit hungry US healthcare, IT and data providers. That will happen anyway, because the UK voted by a landslide for this eventuailty in 2019. But by registering an opt-out, you are still at least entitled to have your personal identifying data stripped from the records they hand over to UnitedHealth et al.

Sadly, this still won't be much help against a decent AI or a keen researcher since you can, naturally, be fairly easily identified from the specifics of your health, treatments, medications, illnesses you've had and so on. Better this than nothing at all though.

If you want to read a bit about it, I've copypasta'd an article from the FT below, since it's paywalled. You can also read Matt Hancock's little bit of shiny disingenuous PR on the issue at the following link: https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-inf...l-practice-data-for-planning-and-research#top

If you just want to get the opt-out registration form (which you can email), you can click the following link, which opens a rather primary school looking docx formatted form: https://nhs-prod.global.ssl.fastly....lanning-and-research/type-1-opt-out-form.docx


England’s NHS plans to share patient records with third parties

55m patients have until June 23 to opt out of having their health data scraped into a new database



England’s NHS is preparing to scrape the medical histories of 55m patients, including sensitive information on mental and sexual health, criminal records and abuse, into a database it will share with third parties.

The data collection project, which is the first of its kind, has caused an uproar among privacy campaigners, who say it is “legally problematic”, especially as patients only have a few weeks to opt out of the plan.

NHS Digital, which runs the health service’s IT systems, confirmed the plan to pool together medical records from every patient in England who is registered with a GP clinic into a single lake that will be available to academic and commercial third parties for research and planning purposes.

Cori Crider, co-founder of Foxglove, a campaign group for digital rights, said: “We all want to see the NHS come out of the pandemic stronger” but noted that the NHS had been “completely silent” on who would have access to the data.

“Is it pharma companies? The health arm of Google Deepmind? If you ask patients whether they want details of their fertility treatment or abortion, or results of their colonoscopy shared with [those companies], they’re not going to want that,” she said.

Foxglove has issued a legal letter to the Department of Health and Social Care, questioning the lawfulness of the plans under current data protection laws, and threatening further legal action.

Rosa Curling, a solicitor at Foxglove, wrote in the letter that she had “serious concerns” about the legality of the move because no explicit consent had been given and “very few members of the public will be aware that the new processing is imminent, directly affecting their personal medical data”.

Patients have until June 23 to opt out by filling in a form and taking it to their GP before their historical records will become a permanent and irreversible part of the new data set. Patients who opt out after the deadline can stop future data from being funnelled into the new system.

The plan to create a new data set was announced by Matt Hancock, health secretary, in early April and publicised mainly on blogs on the NHS Digital website, and through flyers at GP surgeries, said NHS Digital, which added that the plans had been in the works for three years.

But Phil Booth, founder of advocacy group MedConfidential, said: “They’re trying to sneak it out, they are giving you six weeks nominally and if you do not act based on web pages on the NHS digital site and some YouTube videos and a few tweets, your entire GP history could have been scraped, never to be deleted.”

He added that the NHS had “opaque” commercial relationships, often through middlemen, and that it would be difficult to trace who ultimately sees the data. NHS Digital says on its website that it publishes a monthly register of who it has released data to, and whether the data is anonymised or not.

Data that directly identifies patients will be replaced with unique codes in the new data set, but the NHS will hold the keys to unlock the codes “in certain circumstances, and where there is a valid legal reason”, according to its website.

NHS Digital said the Information Commissioner’s Office, the UK’s data regulator, had not objected to its plans, and that it was in the process of delivering a data protection impact assessment.

The plan comes following an attempt in 2013 to extract GP records into a central database, called the Care.data programme, which was abandoned in 2016 after complaints about confidentiality and commercial use.


 
For those who don't know about this, which is most people (since the government snuck this out very quietly and with minimal notice, aside from a few shiny flyers in the leaflet racks of GP practices which most people aren't even allowed to visit at the moment...), as part of ongoing plans to further privatise and dilute your NHS care, the Tories intend to provide permanent access to your full medical history to (essentially) any company or organization that wants it.

Your consent has already been assumed unless you register a Type-1 Opt-out preference and either post or email that opt-out to your GP surgery, on the appropriate form, by this coming JUNE 23rd.

To clarify: this opt-out will not prevent the Tories from handing over your entire medical history to any number of profit hungry US healthcare, IT and data providers. That will happen anyway, because the UK voted by a landslide for this eventuailty in 2019. But by registering an opt-out, you are still at least entitled to have your personal identifying data stripped from the records they hand over to UnitedHealth et al.

Sadly, this still won't be much help against a decent AI or a keen researcher since you can, naturally, be fairly easily identified from the specifics of your health, treatments, medications, illnesses you've had and so on. Better this than nothing at all though.

If you want to read a bit about it, I've copypasta'd an article from the FT below, since it's paywalled. You can also read Matt Hancock's little bit of shiny disingenuous PR on the issue at the following link: https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-inf...l-practice-data-for-planning-and-research#top

If you just want to get the opt-out registration form (which you can email), you can click the following link, which opens a rather primary school looking docx formatted form: https://nhs-prod.global.ssl.fastly....lanning-and-research/type-1-opt-out-form.docx


England’s NHS plans to share patient records with third parties

55m patients have until June 23 to opt out of having their health data scraped into a new database



England’s NHS is preparing to scrape the medical histories of 55m patients, including sensitive information on mental and sexual health, criminal records and abuse, into a database it will share with third parties.

The data collection project, which is the first of its kind, has caused an uproar among privacy campaigners, who say it is “legally problematic”, especially as patients only have a few weeks to opt out of the plan.

NHS Digital, which runs the health service’s IT systems, confirmed the plan to pool together medical records from every patient in England who is registered with a GP clinic into a single lake that will be available to academic and commercial third parties for research and planning purposes.

Cori Crider, co-founder of Foxglove, a campaign group for digital rights, said: “We all want to see the NHS come out of the pandemic stronger” but noted that the NHS had been “completely silent” on who would have access to the data.

“Is it pharma companies? The health arm of Google Deepmind? If you ask patients whether they want details of their fertility treatment or abortion, or results of their colonoscopy shared with [those companies], they’re not going to want that,” she said.

Foxglove has issued a legal letter to the Department of Health and Social Care, questioning the lawfulness of the plans under current data protection laws, and threatening further legal action.

Rosa Curling, a solicitor at Foxglove, wrote in the letter that she had “serious concerns” about the legality of the move because no explicit consent had been given and “very few members of the public will be aware that the new processing is imminent, directly affecting their personal medical data”.

Patients have until June 23 to opt out by filling in a form and taking it to their GP before their historical records will become a permanent and irreversible part of the new data set. Patients who opt out after the deadline can stop future data from being funnelled into the new system.

The plan to create a new data set was announced by Matt Hancock, health secretary, in early April and publicised mainly on blogs on the NHS Digital website, and through flyers at GP surgeries, said NHS Digital, which added that the plans had been in the works for three years.

But Phil Booth, founder of advocacy group MedConfidential, said: “They’re trying to sneak it out, they are giving you six weeks nominally and if you do not act based on web pages on the NHS digital site and some YouTube videos and a few tweets, your entire GP history could have been scraped, never to be deleted.”

He added that the NHS had “opaque” commercial relationships, often through middlemen, and that it would be difficult to trace who ultimately sees the data. NHS Digital says on its website that it publishes a monthly register of who it has released data to, and whether the data is anonymised or not.

Data that directly identifies patients will be replaced with unique codes in the new data set, but the NHS will hold the keys to unlock the codes “in certain circumstances, and where there is a valid legal reason”, according to its website.

NHS Digital said the Information Commissioner’s Office, the UK’s data regulator, had not objected to its plans, and that it was in the process of delivering a data protection impact assessment.

The plan comes following an attempt in 2013 to extract GP records into a central database, called the Care.data programme, which was abandoned in 2016 after complaints about confidentiality and commercial use.


Thanks for bringing this back to our attention CFC! What an absolute joke!

I do remember this from back in 2019 but it totally went out of my head.
 
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Right winger
aahhahahahahhahahahahaha!!!!

haha!

If somebody is vaccinated against politics it is me. Would have an easier life if that wasn't true but I just can't stand hypocrisy. Line of work in which lying, having no consciousness, being able to look at people as numbers and be allergic to decency...are prerequisites for entry, is simply not for me. Besides, everything is a spectrum and without right there is no left. But I am straying away from politics to philosophy and will refrain myself. It is very easy to strain away from politics though, you just have to think logically and look at whole rather than opposing and conflicting parts (interest groups). Right winger... :ROFLMAO:

Thank you for giving me a great good night laugh! :)
 
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I cannot overstate how grateful I am for you sharing this with readers and members CFC - whatever side of the political spectrum UK patients fall on. Despite the alt - right agitators that enjoy 'owning the libs', with the CE&P forum providing perfect ground for contra something far too easy on a sight such as this one, Bluelight has taught me that their are many good faith conservative minded members that still use or have used traditionally prohibited drugs for the same reasons everybody does, a potential example being the most senior member on the site, who's decades of commitment to a vision has provided a level of consistency that I honestly believe has been maintained through 90% of those that have and continue to provide the hard work that keeps people coming back. Even those that spent the best part of 2 years trying to collectively brigade and cause harm to the site did so after a fall out, with some individuals having been long standing assets before all of this and despite all the criticism I got during my tenure, being constantly told that EADD and the site in general was dead. But after skanking the place rough for months I return to see things as healthy as they have been since before I asked to have a bash at moderating. Not only has the guv'na finally got some support for the first time since I saw him step up to save the place, one of the new Mods seems to be a relatively new member I had not even seen post up until this point. Talk about fresh blood - it is this most contemporary of contributions that the forum needs - someone who can genuinely respond to the current society of drug culture and use and having not socialised for over 4 years now (making me possibly the only person fine with the lockdown as it changed nothing) that hasn't been me since the PSA act which has since seen me resort back to the rubbish that is killing me most quickly. Have I gone OT again? Or to be more accurate, OTT again. Having just smoked a pipe I am making the most of my message in a bottle and including the 2 or 3 relevant thoughts I have had over the last fortnight rather than wasting folks time with posts that would spiral out of control as easily.

So, as an active patient of a General Practise (I will quickly report an important change in status before I sign off) and a tertiary service, which despite already being a 3rd party social enterprise has replaced and has a direct charter from the NHS to provide drug and alcohol services AND - at least temporarily - under the care of a local mass vaccination scheme as I wait for my second dose after receiving the first about 2 weeks ago - I have not once been informed of this by any of the above. Not only will I make every effort to opt out I will also be asking what steps, if any, they have actually taken to apprise people of all of this.

Despite my numerous issues I have no one to blame other than myself, but as my embarrassing medical history is all I have left, a history that includes multiple police encounters for drug possession, I may be able to motivate myself enough to get on my high horse just this once. With my DSP communicating how long I have been dangling at the end of my rope to my GP stressing my overuse of un-Rx'd benzos for my neurotic ass, the Doc, following a quick consult. by phone on Monday, decided to throw a months Rx of sertraline my direction in a quick fix attempt for my anxiety. However, as the only reason I still feel happy is due to drugs, particularly cannabis provided I avoid it between weekends, the path of least resistance was to just cash the Rx and start taking them. The last time I tried an SSRI was 2007 and one primary reason I stopped taking them was in order to be able to start going out dancing again, ee's being ineffective if taken while being treated with an SS/SRNI. But with the biggest party this summer being most likely to occur in my head, if at all, with some help from some weed and my brand new BD copies of Zack Snyders Justice League and Wonder Woman 84 (the latter of which I have not seen yet) I am saving for my birthday (I need to take some new snaps of my blu - ray collection for BL, with it representing the dream of any self respecting 13 year old boy - I have decided that the Lustral may actually provide me with some genuine motivation through its AD effect, as while it makes me happy for a short time weed and heroin are not going to inspire me to write a novel or get a job a Maccy D's or make any effort to reduce my fucking methadone, where as the sertraline IMO at this point cannot hurt what is a fucking total mess.

Well, that feels better.

Thanks again CFC (y)
 
Seriously, fuck the Tories. As if murdering the disabled and single mams wasn't enough. Evil people.
The worst for me was refusing to extend free school meals. The cost of this was literally 0.1 percent of the money they had just wasted on trying and failing to make their own trace app. They have become even more evil than we could have imagined. Thatcher is pumping fists in her grave.
 
I was told that the cut off date is now put forward to september.

You can opt out here still.

 
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Have your medical files destroyed.

I did, my Dr. has an empty file. Except anything that has been documented afterwards. In the Netherland's its your legal right as long as you haven't beaten your wife/ had sex with your kid's or are in a trial with your former Dr.
 
Ive reads some recent stuff and ya may have an option to opy out but threir discrtions are the absolute rule, iirc.
Bastards. Its all become a business and how do we stop businesses....? We buy feom china as they offer a fair price. lol
 
Ive reads some recent stuff and ya may have an option to opy out but threir discrtions are the absolute rule, iirc.
Bastards. Its all become a business and how do we stop businesses....? We buy feom china as they offer a fair price. lol

Are you UK there? Apparently its been extended until the end of the month to opt out.
 
Nah, US... but the good ol boy network are like drs without beorders. sorry... not the best analogy.

wait....what ate we opting out of? been going all day and have prolly 10 hrs befor i get to sleep. still preppin but fiddinda turn the ovens on. btw... bed bug bernaise delight (smokable) its on the menu this morning if interested.
Plz reply to our resident wizard as he has all the newt eye and the bits from cornholio.
ma bad obviously overextended atm but breezin through.
i think.
plz feel free ro correct me if i am wrong not in my right mind atm but think i am.
wish they ahd a bigger heart prolly do i cant see four sh**

<3
 
Your first sentence or so sure did! Haha!

Ive just read the same thing. Government discretion, NHS third parties hold the keys and can decrypt the data if necessary. 8(

Its like when people say whatsapp is encrypted. Yeah but they hold the keys! They might lock my door to keep me safe, but they can also unlock it, or keep it unlocked to them.
 
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