Growing You USA guys have gone over the top!

[TUFKA-Sleepwalker]

Hello fellow bl-ers.
I have been here in O.D. for many years.
I never visited this part of the site until recently.
Just wanted to share my experience, cuz i found out you guys in the USA went CRAZY with all the crossbreeding, altered genetics and new strains.
I've been out of the indoor growing community for about 20 years and was just checking where the USA is today and it is unbelievable.

As an old school smoker and grower I remember the day Northern Lights appeared in our coffeeshops.
We smoked hashish and our Dutch weed (nederwiet) but the NL was there first strain, you could actually SEE the THC crystals.
No other weed on the menu, except a Thai or Colombia now and then.

In the 90s I had the chance to learn how to homegrow from the crossbreeder, who won the Highlife-cup 3 years in a row with his White Widow.
This weed was on another level already, with 19.3% THC.
But a fresh taste as weed can possibly have and an incomparable high!
The reactions from everyone who ever tried this strain will always be in my memories.
Everybody loved it.
It's almost a disgrace what they sell as White widow nowadays.
Its nowhere close to the original.
Back then all growing was done with clones, which gave very trustworthy plants.
After the 90's Dutch genetics went all over the world and we were notorious for our plants and of course 'legal' coffeeshops.
Whenever I mentioned I was from the Netherlands most of the responses were about Amsterdam and weed.

I quit growing when the laws changed and getting caught would result in loss of your home.
And here we are 20 years later.
Your laws have changed and I am amazed how many strains and producing companies there are in the USA now.
All scientifically examined and specified.
Pretty freely available and advertised.
Terpines, CBD, THC, % sativa/indica, extreme percentages...
Feminised seeds, autoflowers, led-lights..
The industry has become big and it seems like every American is doing weed nowadays.
Ya'll had some catching up to do after all these years of prohibition and war on weed.
Well, you caught up with the Netherlands.
And ran straight past us...big time.

When my American friends were showing their new guns and making me jealous, id tell them
'But we have weed!'
Now you have the guns AND the weed.
Life's unfair.

I don't see the wood through the trees anymore, as we say in Holland.
Do you actually look at all the data on your weed, before deciding what to smoke nowadays?
Or is the proof of the pudding still in the eating?

Thanks for reading, just had this on my mind for some time.
Enjoy your day.

 

[Thomas Davie]

The weed packages in Canada have ; unconverted THC %, total THC (if 100% conversio/decarboxylateion). CBD and other Cannabinoids, Some have total terpenes and % breakdown. Occasionally you will get pesticide and other chemical assays referenced by the lot#/serial# which all Cannabis’s have.

It helps when at the government store i go into. They have daily updated binder books in store with THC/CBD/terpenes.

Tom

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

half the price, double the potency and no waiting in some guy who won't give you a christian name's basement. Woohooo. Don't drive with that shit though the cops still haven't let go of that easy bust money. I imagine it sucks a little more kicking in the door to a meth users house than a pot smoker.


*forreal it is crazy! I went from reading that 23% was the highest thc percent achievable to being able to get grams of 90% thc that charge usb and have press button inhales for the cost of a couple happy meals. Or you can be like me and save some $ and use a torch and do dabs like a good us-irish pyro. Bang for buck I think dabs win. Get a small banger and topper and it heats up even with some very small butane "gentlemans" lighters almost immediately. The torch is problematic lets be real; operating a torch to get intoxicated is just bad planning. I got sold a broken peak pro by a dispensary about to go about of business so I hit bad luck. (High profiles they are a chain, id avoid them).

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

The weed packages in Canada have ; unconverted THC %, total THC (if 100% conversio/decarboxylateion). CBD and other Cannabinoids, Some have total terpenes and % breakdown. Occasionally you will get pesticide and other chemical assays referenced by the lot#/serial# which all Cannabis’s have.

It helps when at the government store i go into. They have daily updated binder books in store with THC/CBD/terpenes.

Tom

I am starting to see humidity %'s poppin up on the flower in the US. You are lucky, Canada is like a less extreme less lets guinea pig ourselves less GO MOUNTAIN DEW version of america. Which isn't America at all anymore is it? Double luck.

 

[G_Chem]

We’ve always had some amazing weed, but now it’s just easy to get for everyone. Back in the day you had to know people.

But ya we be growing some dank shit out here bud I’m working on my own strains right now. It’s nice knowing everything I’m doing is legal now. I grew for nearly a decade back when it wasn’t, much more stressful.

The one thing I really appreciate is how deep the analysis can be for certain concentrates. I used to buy products where they would give a complete breakdown on the exact quantities of cannabinoids and terpenes. Often in the form of a pie graph for the terpenes, love it.

-GC

 

[TUFKA-Sleepwalker]

I didn't even look at Canada yet.
But to me as a Dutchy its unbelievable how much you have gone in the opposite direction of prohibition.
Here I've been able to buy my weed and hash in the shops since I was 14.
No questions asked.
Nowadays its 18.
But any concentrate, shards, vaping oil and edibles have been back on list One for a very long time.
And way to go, USA and Canada, for I've seen eating THC go wrong SO SOO many times, I kinda understand why they prohibited it over here.
You'll NEVER find any thc-Gummybears here.
Which I find logical.
Back in the day having grandma eat our space cake was fun and gave some good stories to tell but I'll be damned when kids accidentally find your gummies and start tripping balls.
Please tell me that never occurred yet, for I know kids and sweets and I also know dads and edibles. Bad combo is suppose.

Dosing was always the problem but I suppose you have that covered with all the fine tuning and testing.

Humidity testing is a new one to me.
I guess we've not reached the line of what's possible.

 

[Thomas Davie]

@TUFKA-Sleepwalker Sadly yes, there are and will continue to be poisonings through idiotry (storing gummies in unlabelled, unlocked containers), accidental or deliberate (adults in a richpart of one city thought it would be funny to hand out 600mg bags of nERDS and licorice. Assholes everywhere.

Regarding dosing, the pfficial position of Health Canada is that less is safer. So, a maximum of 10mg THC per individually wrapped package. Individual gummies can be 1-10mg in dose, giving you a variable number per bag. THC oil os widely sold in many formats - but it’s cheap to pick up 1000mg in grapeseed/flax/canola/coconut/olive oil, etc. And water soluble drops are available, giving you the ability to measure out 0.5mg into a drink. Cannabis dispensers are here. You pop a cartridge into a gadget that kinda looks like a calculator/powerbank/Star Trek thing. Hold it over your drink in a pub/bar/club and click your dose and it hits in 2-10 minutes.

As Butt-head would have said; ‘Beavis, were are officially living in the future’

Tim

 

[G_Chem]

@TUFKA-Sleepwalker Sadly yes, there are and will continue to be poisonings through idiotry (storing gummies in unlabelled, unlocked containers), accidental or deliberate (adults in a richpart of one city thought it would be funny to hand out 600mg bags of nERDS and licorice. Assholes everywhere.

Regarding dosing, the pfficial position of Health Canada is that less is safer. So, a maximum of 10mg THC per individually wrapped package. Individual gummies can be 1-10mg in dose, giving you a variable number per bag. THC oil os widely sold in many formats - but it’s cheap to pick up 1000mg in grapeseed/flax/canola/coconut/olive oil, etc. And water soluble drops are available, giving you the ability to measure out 0.5mg into a drink. Cannabis dispensers are here. You pop a cartridge into a gadget that kinda looks like a calculator/powerbank/Star Trek thing. Hold it over your drink in a pub/bar/club and click your dose and it hits in 2-10 minutes.

As Butt-head would have said; ‘Beavis, were are officially living in the future’

Tim

Yea my buddies just gave me a nerds rope with 500mg in it that they think might even be stronger than that. They ate the tiniest piece and were tripping out, unable to go to the show they had planned. I can’t imagine a little kid accidentally eating the whole thing.

-GC

 

[VerbalTruist]

Agree with you 100% OP. When I want to get high I don’t care if it’s an OG-GS-PST-EST-Greenwich cross. I just want to know if it’s a Sativa or Indica cross.

 

[kiely]

There was a guy on this forum here, that grew his own landrace strain of his geographical location. He would document and post pic's of his grows from beginning to harvest.

He did a super fantastic job and got quite a bit of production and yield. And all grown outdoors in an outdoor environment with the landrace strain and seeds.

I learned a lot from him. He had that gift and the TLC to share his knowledge and the nugs from the flower of the strain that was produced. With heart and soul.

He had the most fantastic and marvelous plants to share with us all !!! Very Awesome !

He liked to trip on mushrooms too. And such an aware and beautiful soul.

This is just some Very Basics:

~~~~~~~~~~​

​

Landrace Strains: The Complete Guide To These Rare Strains​

When it comes to cannabis, variety really is the spice of life. From Fruity Pebbles to Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies, there always seems to be a strain for every occasion. But did you know that all the strains we have today trace back to a handful of original cannabis plant types known as landrace strains?

It’s true. In fact, botanists can trace the entire cannabis lineage back to an original landrace strain in the Hindu Kush region of Afghanistan and Pakistan. We know — mind blown, right?

So what is a landrace strain, specifically? What makes them unique? And should you drop everything, sell your car, and trek to the back of beyond just to try one?

​

An Extremely Brief History Of Cannabis​

Historical documents from as far back as 2900 B.C.E. (before common era) and archaeological evidence from various regions indicate that cannabis was already in use during the Neolithic period in China.

That means humans could have been smoking weed as far back as 10,000 B.C.E.!
Actually, that’s a bit of an exaggeration. Our ancient stoner ancestors probably consumed cannabis as an edible or as a weed tea. It probably wasn’t until later that some ganja genius got it in his or her head to inhale the smoke of a burning pot plant.


We really don’t know for sure about cannabis use, though, because Wikipedia didn’t exist back then and no one wrote anything down (they probably forgot because they were stoned off their weed tea).

Cannabis genetics are a different thing entirely. Botanists don’t need written records to do some pretty amazing things, like trace all the cannabis strains that we know about today back to single plant variety that first developed in the Hindu Kush region of what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Keep in mind that this area was a no-man’s land between Indian and Chinese civilizations way back then. But it’s not hard to imagine an intrepid Chinese explorer stumbling upon a crop of wild cannabis in this region, eating it, burning it, or just using the fibers for something, thereby kicking off our current marijuana revolution.

From that earliest discovery, mankind took cannabis wherever they went and the plant spread outside the Kush and China to Russia, Africa, South America, the Caribbean, and even parts of North America.

Through the intervening years, ganja growers have combined strain after strain of cannabis plants in order to produce different results.

Some growers wanted the plant to grow in cooler climates. Some growers wanted the plant to grow in warmer climates. Some growers wanted to isolate a particular flavor. That led to the production of the myriad strains we have now.

But everything can be traced back to that one original strain and the handful of landrace strains that followed.

​

What Is A Landrace Strain?​

A landrace strain is a variety of cannabis plant that has less diluted DNA than other strains of cannabis. That means landrace strains have not been crossbred with another variety of cannabis.

To take the distinction even further, landrace strains are usually indigenous to a certain part of the world (meaning they have adapted to the environment of a specific geographic location). And since these landrace strains are the original cannabis plant from that area, descendants from those strains often bear part of the region’s name (e.g., Kandi Kush, Durban Thai, Super Lemon Haze).

Let’s think of it this way for clarification: The original strain that developed in the Hindu Kush so many thousands of years ago was a wild species.

Caveman potheads took seeds from that wild species and planted them in various parts of the world in the thousands of years between then and now. Those plants that were directly descended from the original species are now known as landrace strains.

From there (in, say, the past 100-200 years), mankind continued to practice selective breeding of the cannabis plant for genetic improvement. That produced the modern hybrid strains we enjoy today.

​

6 Landrace Strains From Around The World​

Here, for your pleasure, is a brief list of six landrace strains from around the world. This is by no means an exhaustive list. It’s just to give you an idea of where that Chem Dog you’re smoking came from:

• Hindu Kush, Pakistan
• Pure Afghan, Afghanistan
• Lamb’s Bread, Jamaica
• Acapulco Gold, Mexico
• Durban Poison, Africa
• Panama Red, Central America

Are Landrace Strains Unique In Some Way?​

It’s important to understand that the landrace classification only describes the strain’s genetic purity and indigenous upbringing.

It does not mean that landrace strains will get you higher than a good batch of Blue Dream or cut your anxiety quicker than a high-CBD strain.

In fact, modern strains are much better than landrace strains at generating the effects we’re all looking for (be they recreational or medicinal). That’s because growers have bred the plants for those specific effects.

Landrace strains are not “better” than modern strains, or even really unique in any way. They just have less diluted DNA. They’re closer to the original wild species than anything else we have available today.

To put it in perspective, it’s like comparing the very first car (let’s say it was the Model T for simplicity’s sake) with the newest BMW.

You’re going to enjoy cruising around in the BMW more than you would the Model T — the BMW is comfier, rides better, is easier to start, and goes faster (just to name a few) — but it’s still good to know where that BMW originally came from.

That’s how you can look at landrace strains today. They’re really only useful to historians, scientists, and pot purists.

The one benefit from trying a landrace strain would be experiencing more genuine effects that are closer to those produced by the original cannabis strain. Maybe the high or the medicinal effects were completely different. We just don’t know.

​

Where Have All The Pure Landrace Strains Gone?​

You may be wondering why you haven’t heard about landrace strains before. Where have they all gone?

The answer to both questions at the same time: the original landrace strains have been taken out of their native environment and endlessly crossbred with other varieties to produce something new.

When a landrace strain is removed from its indigenous environment (say, Pakistan) and forced to grow elsewhere (say, Mexico), it has to mature in different growing conditions. In response to those new growing conditions, the plant will exhibit new characteristics (e.g., smaller flowers, longer grow time, higher THC).

During that transition from indigenous environment to new growing conditions, some of the characteristics of the original plant will be lost. To get those characteristics back, you’d have to return the plant to its native environment.

Even then, the “purity” would be in question because you’ve grown a plant in a different location (Mexico) — producing slightly different characteristics — and then tried to return the seed to the place where its grandparent plant came from (Pakistan).

See how quickly things can get murky and diluted? It’s enough to make your head swim and your eyes go googly (even without taking a toke). That’s why a recommend is not to think about it too deeply.

It’s enough just to know that landrace strains exist. You don’t have to get intimate with the subject. Just give a polite ‘sup nod as you pass by on your way to dispense for a dime bag of Yoda OG

​

Should You Try A Landrace Strain?​

Answers to questions like these are usually a resounding, “Yes!”

There are a few times when we have to say — like, should you make your own THC-O-Acetate or CO2 cannabis oil — but, for the most part, it never hurts to try.

That said, don’t cash in your life savings for the chance to puff a landrace strain. You’ll probably be disappointed. Modern strains are often better at producing the recreational or medicinal effects that you’re looking for.

Remember, landrace strains aren’t stronger, more potent, or better in some way. They’re just less diluted (genetically speaking) than other strains.

And, honestly, even that’s debatable given how much time has passed since the discovery of the original landrace strain and man’s tendency to crossbreed plants to make them grow “better.”

It’s good to know about landrace strains, but a serious doubt that they’re going to be the next big thing in cannabis consumption unless scientists find something in their DNA better than Rick Simpson oil or complete cures for anxiety and depression.


You’re better off using organic, pesticide-free marijuana than spending your hard-earned money on something that claims to be a landrace strain.

 

[Jen X]

That's why I still go to my guy. The legal weed in Canada that claims to be purple indica/northern lights etc.. is not near as good as it was in the 90's and now the black market.
I bought legal weed once to try it, dry af and tasted like hay. Supposed to be 26% but it wasn't

 

[G_Chem]

Yea with legal weed one definitely has to shop around. I’d say only 1/4 of the shops are worth a damn, but once you find your spot it’s golden.

I still buy illegal weed though cuz the price and quality. The only thing the shops have over my illegal connects is selection. I do enjoy that aspect because as I get older I require certain strains and if I don’t have them I feel like shit.

-GC

 

[Mjäll]

I'm not into all that cozed up glam, although slightly curious when legal minor cannabinoids are available.

I guess i'd prefer a normie-free world, but working on it.

Agree with you 100% OP. When I want to get high I don’t care if it’s an OG-GS-PST-EST-Greenwich cross. I just want to know if it’s a Sativa or Indica cross.

I genuinely couldn't make out whether he was impressed or sarcastic or both!

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

^In the US, bordering canada; I can say forsure that black market cannot compete. I know cuz ive had to tell severa ppl that I couldn't sink my money into there ish. But US and Canada are two different things.

laughing with you mjall' as I don't know either. Put some good buds in a sack let me see it than ill hand money. So simple.

 

[Mjäll]

There was a guy on this forum here, that grew his own landrace strain of his geographical location. He would document and post pic's of his grows from beginning to harvest.

He did a super fantastic job and got quite a bit of production and yield. And all grown outdoors in an outdoor environment with the landrace strain and seeds.

I learned a lot from him. He had that gift and the TLC to share his knowledge and the nugs from the flower of the strain that was produced. With heart and soul.

He had the most fantastic and marvelous plants to share with us all !!! Very Awesome !

He liked to trip on mushrooms too. And such an aware and beautiful soul.

This is just some Very Basics:

~~~~~~~~~~​

​

Landrace Strains: The Complete Guide To These Rare Strains​

When it comes to cannabis, variety really is the spice of life. From Fruity Pebbles to Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies, there always seems to be a strain for every occasion. But did you know that all the strains we have today trace back to a handful of original cannabis plant types known as landrace strains?

It’s true. In fact, botanists can trace the entire cannabis lineage back to an original landrace strain in the Hindu Kush region of Afghanistan and Pakistan. We know — mind blown, right?

So what is a landrace strain, specifically? What makes them unique? And should you drop everything, sell your car, and trek to the back of beyond just to try one?

​

An Extremely Brief History Of Cannabis​

Historical documents from as far back as 2900 B.C.E. (before common era) and archaeological evidence from various regions indicate that cannabis was already in use during the Neolithic period in China.

That means humans could have been smoking weed as far back as 10,000 B.C.E.!
Actually, that’s a bit of an exaggeration. Our ancient stoner ancestors probably consumed cannabis as an edible or as a weed tea. It probably wasn’t until later that some ganja genius got it in his or her head to inhale the smoke of a burning pot plant.


We really don’t know for sure about cannabis use, though, because Wikipedia didn’t exist back then and no one wrote anything down (they probably forgot because they were stoned off their weed tea).

Cannabis genetics are a different thing entirely. Botanists don’t need written records to do some pretty amazing things, like trace all the cannabis strains that we know about today back to single plant variety that first developed in the Hindu Kush region of what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Keep in mind that this area was a no-man’s land between Indian and Chinese civilizations way back then. But it’s not hard to imagine an intrepid Chinese explorer stumbling upon a crop of wild cannabis in this region, eating it, burning it, or just using the fibers for something, thereby kicking off our current marijuana revolution.

From that earliest discovery, mankind took cannabis wherever they went and the plant spread outside the Kush and China to Russia, Africa, South America, the Caribbean, and even parts of North America.

Through the intervening years, ganja growers have combined strain after strain of cannabis plants in order to produce different results.

Some growers wanted the plant to grow in cooler climates. Some growers wanted the plant to grow in warmer climates. Some growers wanted to isolate a particular flavor. That led to the production of the myriad strains we have now.

But everything can be traced back to that one original strain and the handful of landrace strains that followed.

​

What Is A Landrace Strain?​

A landrace strain is a variety of cannabis plant that has less diluted DNA than other strains of cannabis. That means landrace strains have not been crossbred with another variety of cannabis.

To take the distinction even further, landrace strains are usually indigenous to a certain part of the world (meaning they have adapted to the environment of a specific geographic location). And since these landrace strains are the original cannabis plant from that area, descendants from those strains often bear part of the region’s name (e.g., Kandi Kush, Durban Thai, Super Lemon Haze).

Let’s think of it this way for clarification: The original strain that developed in the Hindu Kush so many thousands of years ago was a wild species.

Caveman potheads took seeds from that wild species and planted them in various parts of the world in the thousands of years between then and now. Those plants that were directly descended from the original species are now known as landrace strains.

From there (in, say, the past 100-200 years), mankind continued to practice selective breeding of the cannabis plant for genetic improvement. That produced the modern hybrid strains we enjoy today.

​

6 Landrace Strains From Around The World​

Here, for your pleasure, is a brief list of six landrace strains from around the world. This is by no means an exhaustive list. It’s just to give you an idea of where that Chem Dog you’re smoking came from:

• Hindu Kush, Pakistan
• Pure Afghan, Afghanistan
• Lamb’s Bread, Jamaica
• Acapulco Gold, Mexico
• Durban Poison, Africa
• Panama Red, Central America

Are Landrace Strains Unique In Some Way?​

It’s important to understand that the landrace classification only describes the strain’s genetic purity and indigenous upbringing.

It does not mean that landrace strains will get you higher than a good batch of Blue Dream or cut your anxiety quicker than a high-CBD strain.

In fact, modern strains are much better than landrace strains at generating the effects we’re all looking for (be they recreational or medicinal). That’s because growers have bred the plants for those specific effects.

Landrace strains are not “better” than modern strains, or even really unique in any way. They just have less diluted DNA. They’re closer to the original wild species than anything else we have available today.

To put it in perspective, it’s like comparing the very first car (let’s say it was the Model T for simplicity’s sake) with the newest BMW.

You’re going to enjoy cruising around in the BMW more than you would the Model T — the BMW is comfier, rides better, is easier to start, and goes faster (just to name a few) — but it’s still good to know where that BMW originally came from.

That’s how you can look at landrace strains today. They’re really only useful to historians, scientists, and pot purists.

The one benefit from trying a landrace strain would be experiencing more genuine effects that are closer to those produced by the original cannabis strain. Maybe the high or the medicinal effects were completely different. We just don’t know.

​

Where Have All The Pure Landrace Strains Gone?​

You may be wondering why you haven’t heard about landrace strains before. Where have they all gone?

The answer to both questions at the same time: the original landrace strains have been taken out of their native environment and endlessly crossbred with other varieties to produce something new.

When a landrace strain is removed from its indigenous environment (say, Pakistan) and forced to grow elsewhere (say, Mexico), it has to mature in different growing conditions. In response to those new growing conditions, the plant will exhibit new characteristics (e.g., smaller flowers, longer grow time, higher THC).

During that transition from indigenous environment to new growing conditions, some of the characteristics of the original plant will be lost. To get those characteristics back, you’d have to return the plant to its native environment.

Even then, the “purity” would be in question because you’ve grown a plant in a different location (Mexico) — producing slightly different characteristics — and then tried to return the seed to the place where its grandparent plant came from (Pakistan).

See how quickly things can get murky and diluted? It’s enough to make your head swim and your eyes go googly (even without taking a toke). That’s why a recommend is not to think about it too deeply.

It’s enough just to know that landrace strains exist. You don’t have to get intimate with the subject. Just give a polite ‘sup nod as you pass by on your way to dispense for a dime bag of Yoda OG

​

Should You Try A Landrace Strain?​

Answers to questions like these are usually a resounding, “Yes!”

There are a few times when we have to say — like, should you make your own THC-O-Acetate or CO2 cannabis oil — but, for the most part, it never hurts to try.

That said, don’t cash in your life savings for the chance to puff a landrace strain. You’ll probably be disappointed. Modern strains are often better at producing the recreational or medicinal effects that you’re looking for.

Remember, landrace strains aren’t stronger, more potent, or better in some way. They’re just less diluted (genetically speaking) than other strains.

And, honestly, even that’s debatable given how much time has passed since the discovery of the original landrace strain and man’s tendency to crossbreed plants to make them grow “better.”

It’s good to know about landrace strains, but a serious doubt that they’re going to be the next big thing in cannabis consumption unless scientists find something in their DNA better than Rick Simpson oil or complete cures for anxiety and depression.


You’re better off using organic, pesticide-free marijuana than spending your hard-earned money on something that claims to be a landrace strain.

Love the nuance here

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

i'd venture to say that about 80% of what's out there now in the black market, is back doored out from the legal market (true story)

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

Love the nuance here

Bahahaha no kidding hey. Remember that when posting. Wait till your inbox blows up with nonsense requests. (not the people I respond too ftr).

 

[TUFKA-Sleepwalker]

. THC oil os widely sold in many formats - but it’s cheap to pick up 1000mg in grapeseed/flax/canola/coconut/olive oil, etc. And water soluble drops are available, giving you the ability to measure out 0.5mg into a drink. Cannabis dispensers are here. You pop a cartridge into a gadget that kinda looks like a calculator/powerbank/Star Trek thing. Hold it over your drink in a pub/bar/club and click your dose and it hits in 2-10 minutes.

As Butt-head would have said; ‘Beavis, were are officially living in the future’

Tim

Thank you, Tim
That made me drool.
And states my point even more.
And that's some crazy ways to get stoned I couldn't have imagined 35 years ago.
Really trying to get my head around the info you just gave.
Like to try though.
I love these reactions, they sparkle my imagination.
Now I fully understand how foreigners were drooling at the stories of our menus in the coffeshops all those years.

The Landrace strains are what older generation smokers love indeed and finding the simple but super effective land races is a real treat nowadays.
Lately I got a Colombia on a hot summer day and the high is so much better than most crossbred strains.
Thanks for the article, Kiely
Imma read that in the morning.
Looking forward to that.

 

[kiely]

Nice ! Psychonaut State of mind in here !

 

[Thomas Davie]

@TUFKA-Sleepwalker I still check out the coffeeshop menus every 2-3 days. You’ve got some drool worthy hashes that I would love to try. Just an off question but when did the prices become so expensive for some weeds?

Amsterdam is still the first place I’m going to go when I win a lottery. Do you know which place has the best (amount of THC on label?) edibles. I’ve read of some red velvetcakes that’s supposed to be very good and now that is all I can think of for dessert!

Tom