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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

you feel bupe keeps your dope habit at a certain level?

Jabberwocky

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so I take 12MG/bupe in the AM; I am coming off a gram+ day habit; sometimes I'd shoot 2G's. over the past 2-3 weeks I have NOT USED ONCE; I have done this many times and always went back to using. I do not really have any intention on stopping but its nice to get away for the time being. sure, ill def. be back but oh well.

anyway, w/ that 12/MG/day script, I still usually can shoot .3-.5/shot. wondering if you people feel that the bupe keeps my tolerance up? of course I know it does to a degree, w/o a doubt, but wondering what everyone else' experience was like.

w/ 12MG in the AM I'd usually shoot the next day around noon or 5PM so its been a little over 24/hrs. yes, the bupe is still IN ME and yes its blocking partial the shot but the shot still gets through and I still catch a good high - believe me, I know all about it.

I am just asking others experience w/ this and see if it keeps everyone playing ground level as opposed to huge drop as if I was off all drugs for a few weeks.
 
When on methadone, I was on doses where shooting up Dilaudid if I skipped a day or just had like 1/4 of my bottle in the morning, I would get the Dilaudid rush and some high.

With bupe, nope. Even shot 20mg of dilaudid, all it did was pile up on the bupe's respiratory depression while wide awake, a scary experience, had to use my Symbicort inhaler, which I rarely do anymore since I got rid of smokes. Then I was okay. Thankfully the 4mg dillies were mega cheap, I still have 60 or so of them, in my stash of stuff I cannot use because I'm on bupe.

It's the point man, bupe is made so nothing works. So if you get injured badly enough, or need surgery, they need to use ultra concentrated fentanyl IV liquid. I know a guy who's a skater (skateboarder) and he messed himself up so bad (while on bupe), he had a script of dilaudid ampoules (50mg/5ml) AND morphine ampoules (200mg) and a Fentapop, yeah those Fentanyl pops usually reserved for kids with cancer) while out of the hospital, even if he didn't take bupe for 45 days, it was still making other opis null and void. At least when he was done with ultra painful physio and walked again (albeit with a permanently crooked foot, could still drive, it was the left foot), they put him on Metadol 25mg (the largest dose of methadone pills for pain) upon waking up and 200mg Kadians, which they slowly cut down, 200, 130mg, 100, 70(?, kadians have bizarre dosages, at least they have one in between 100 and 200). And today he's opiate free.

He just had to fail being a show off, just kidding, the guy's a pro skater, he's been to the US and stuff with a name that stood out of the crowd (french canadian) and no I'm not speaking of Pierre-Luc.
 
dude, I've been on bupe for years and years; EVERYTHING STILL WORKS! every person reacts differently. I would take 4-8MG in the AM and shoot a G of dope in the PM and still catch a nod. again, all depends on the person. same goes for methadone and everything else out there; every single person reacts differently; we should all know that by now since we have all been doing drugs for so long and reading drug related message boards for so long.
 
You may be correct there BBT but you asked an opinion and got one. And I would hop right onto the train to oblivion and agree with subs blocking opiates for most people. Sure some people say they can feel dope through the subs and what have you but that doesnt mean they are. To copy your language here; "you should know people perceive things that arent there in response to the placebo effect we should all know that by now since we have all been doing drugs for so long and reading drug related message boards for so long" (not trying to be mean to you but in case oblivion isnt too taking to the language it reads kind of mean)

But in my experience as well I found that suboxone 100% blocked the effect of IV heroin it is for that reason i needed methadone this time around. The subs blocked the dope completely but didnt touch the craving so i would shoot up constantly and get nothing from it. But when I was on maintenance drugs of any type my tolerance would be too high to want to use anyway. Even though I could shoot through 60mg of methadone it took like 8 bags and would make me feel like shit where as subs it would be like firing a pellet into a steel plate, nothing would happen AT ALL. That was a terrible feeling where as methadone did help the craving and if i felt the need i could shoot up and regret the decision.
 
bupe does the opposite for me; completely kills all craving. I have no urge, no hunger, no NOTHING when it comes to dope. when on the done' for a while I was at 95MG and still would shoot almost daily. I was barely getting a feel but it was a complete mind game and I just could not control it. the urge to use was there and I was unable to fight it; I'd get my done' at 730AM and by 1/2PM I'd have a gram in my hand and shooting half G shots to try and get something from it; it was a complete waste of money, veins, time and everything else that goes w/ it.

everyone plays the game different.
 
dude, I've been on bupe for years and years; EVERYTHING STILL WORKS! every person reacts differently. I would take 4-8MG in the AM and shoot a G of dope in the PM and still catch a nod. again, all depends on the person. same goes for methadone and everything else out there; every single person reacts differently; we should all know that by now since we have all been doing drugs for so long and reading drug related message boards for so long.

You'll get mine too. There's the fact that bupe glues to your mu opiate receptors like almost NOTHING else, docs told me when I switched to methadone, if you get hurt, like real hurt, mention it, you'll have to take fentanyl, because everything will be a waste of time. And I said hum, not those patches right, cos when I was "abusing" I wore one to zero effect, and didn't mention those that have a gel and can be chewed/smoked...I never had them at all, the patch I wore was pretty strong, the dose under the strongest dose I think, but it was that other sort of fentanyl patch where abuse is impossible( I think), so I just slapped it, kept withdrawal at bay, was still obsessed with the ritual of preparing @4's (D4's now) and those fucking white triangle 8mg.Brand name Dilaudid 8mg is the prettiest thing in the world, I'd give a kidney for a lifetime supply. Also, brand name doesn't dissolve in a sludgy crap which makes you need better than regular securicup cottons, brand name with its lactose and mag stearate leaves nothing behind in the cup, all the crap gets caught in the securicup filter....ahhh....to rewind life to 2010 again. Minus the incoming Japan nuclear disaster following..., can't be worse than that animation I saw of all the nuclear tests done, weird that they continued until 93, USSR was already dissolved, but that area in New Mexico and Colorado.....holy shit, (also Kazahkstan)...no wonder Walt got cancer in that show. NM seems very dangerous overall but now i'm going from a subject to the other, :shakes fist at bottle of flubromazolam:


All tangents aside, bupe really binds fucking strongly to your opi receptors, I'm sure you know that. But I also take double the dose you take daily, I'm at 12mg since I switched from methadone, I was at 39mg methadone, doctors put me sober for 2 days, which was easy since I had bought some tripelleneamine from a vendor, that famous antihistamine, combined with my hydroxyzine and valium, slept most of the 48 hours just fine. Was induced (or is it inducted) by being given 2mg at 9 pm, and another 2mg at 10h30 pm, was told to leave my hospital room at 11:15. Did the same thing the next day, assessed with the doctor how I felt, he put me on 10mg, which was raised to 12 the next month and by then the horrible sweating was gone. And here I'm going to agree with you, yep, some pharmacological facts do not apply the same to everyone, opiates do not make me sweat, I can do manual labour and not sweat more, my ex dilaudid and Hydromorph Contins dealer, he's an old man, 58 years old or so, construction worker, they smoked crack and snorted coke to work more to make more money to make more coke and their body get destroyed in the process, I respect their job a lot, since, especially heights scare the shit out of me, but the bosses demand way too much out of these people, all the construction workers who are now in their 50's are on some disabilities (multiple), before they even wanted to give him any opiates, he had about 20 cortisone infiltrations in both shoulders, had bad reactions to the immunosuppression blah blah, when I was buying from him, he was taking a total of hmmm, 4x 30mg Hydromorph Contin every 6 hours (they're made to last 12 hours, he didn't snort em or anything like that, he said he was too old to do that shit and I guess 120mg of hydromorphone released into you all day is good. Plus he had Supeudols (20mg OxyIR, same thing) at bed time and 4 to 8 prn 8mg Dilaudid. And the guy was constantly renovating his house and terrain and SWEATING BUCKETS when it was about 10 celcius outside.

I need clonidine to stop sweating buckets when on not enough opioids, the guy is scripted for opioid caused sweating and he also to take a weird medication called Serc which is something that prevents something from feeling like the world around you moves around. Like its not you who got the spins, it's the rest of the world. I was speaking generally about bupe, and my experience with getting hurt while on bupe is pretty convincing and I heard even worse where they had the hospital heroin (we do have it in Canada, for extreme cases, like burn wards, usually used with ketamine to dissociate the poor people who end up there.
 
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