Advise is in bold and id like to see your diet total cal, protein , fat and carb counts !
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Advise is in bold and id like to see your diet total cal, protein , fat and carb counts !
sunyata
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hey bro, what do you think about backloading a test E cycle with test suspension. I really like the idea. You shoot test suspension (which has halflife of 4-8 hours) while waiting for the test E to clear. That way you can basically switch on to off from your cycle to your PCT. There is no gradual drop off period from the test E and you can jump from shooting test suspension one day to starting nolva/aromasin (PCT) the next. So you can better to keep your gains (quicker you can start PCT means quicker you can recover natural test and keep rocking out).
Why replace aromasin with clomid? They are two different drugs. Aromasin is an AI (suicide inhibitor) and it really really helps with PCT. I recovered VERY NICELY off nolvadex/aromasin combination from my last cycle. 3 weeks and I was back to my old self (first week was rough then two weeks after finally was recovered). I ran nolva one week after that to make sure and then stopped it. I kept running aromasin at around 6.25mg ED (a very small dose).
Why replace aromasin with clomid? They are two different drugs. Aromasin is an AI (suicide inhibitor) and it really really helps with PCT. I recovered VERY NICELY off nolvadex/aromasin combination from my last cycle. 3 weeks and I was back to my old self (first week was rough then two weeks after finally was recovered). I ran nolva one week after that to make sure and then stopped it. I kept running aromasin at around 6.25mg ED (a very small dose).
sunyata
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"more research on GHRP-6...need 4-6 months"
I'm not sure about that. Do you know GHRP-6 can function as a recovery drug for natural IGF and GH levels after a run on 1mg of IGF. Its worked before. Honestly I don't really need any help with the peptides. I'm straight on that I've been researching and using those for 2 years now. But thanks for your input there.
I'm not sure about that. Do you know GHRP-6 can function as a recovery drug for natural IGF and GH levels after a run on 1mg of IGF. Its worked before. Honestly I don't really need any help with the peptides. I'm straight on that I've been researching and using those for 2 years now. But thanks for your input there.
Apperently your DIET IS SHlT !!u got no clue what the fck ur doing buddy, if u knew what ur doing you wouldnt be 155 . GHRP-6 needs to be run atleast 3-4 months to get good results because of it works similiar to hgh , it triggers GH oh also it needs to be run at 400iu ed ..
LOLOLOL absolutely AAS isnt what you need , YOU NEED GROCERY !!!!
LOLOLOL absolutely AAS isnt what you need , YOU NEED GROCERY !!!!
sunyata
Ex-Bluelighter
what the hell are you talking about? I didn't even post my diet.
I'm not going to debate peptides with you. Like I said I don't need anybody's help with that. But, suffice to say a GH secretatogue like GHRP-6 is very good 'pct' for a milligram of IGF. You do know that IGF levels are dependent on GH levels? Raise GH levels and you will raise IGF levels. And your 400iu number is utter bullshit. Have you even ran GHRP-6 or are you just regurgitating stuff from the internet? I have ran about 50 milligrams of the stuff and I know how MY body reacts to it.
My advice to you is to tone it down. People will listen MUCH better to your advice if you don't capslock and yell at them and tell them 'their diet is shit' (without having posted a diet!). So chill bro. Around 2002-2004 this forum was utter shit, because there were a lot of people like you yelling and insulting each other. Now its not like that. Let's keep it clean man its a much friendlier place to be in when its clean.
And by the way, my diet is not shit, I'm gaining about 3-5 pounds a month now natural (a little fat gain of which I do mini-cuts every couple months to get rid of 2-3 pounds of fat). Could I gain faster? Probably, but naturally I'd be gaining more fat also, which I am steering away from (doing a clean slow bulk). I'm 10% bf now and have consistently gained for two years so I think I have my diet figured out. I'll probably drop to 8-9 percent before my AAS bulk cycle, so I will really overfeed (like 1k calories above my maintenance).
I love AAS because I can gain about 8-10 pounds a month with little or very minimal fat gain. It allows me to eat about double over maintenance what I can eat with minimal fat gain with my natural levels of testosterone.
I'm not going to debate peptides with you. Like I said I don't need anybody's help with that. But, suffice to say a GH secretatogue like GHRP-6 is very good 'pct' for a milligram of IGF. You do know that IGF levels are dependent on GH levels? Raise GH levels and you will raise IGF levels. And your 400iu number is utter bullshit. Have you even ran GHRP-6 or are you just regurgitating stuff from the internet? I have ran about 50 milligrams of the stuff and I know how MY body reacts to it.
My advice to you is to tone it down. People will listen MUCH better to your advice if you don't capslock and yell at them and tell them 'their diet is shit' (without having posted a diet!). So chill bro. Around 2002-2004 this forum was utter shit, because there were a lot of people like you yelling and insulting each other. Now its not like that. Let's keep it clean man its a much friendlier place to be in when its clean.
And by the way, my diet is not shit, I'm gaining about 3-5 pounds a month now natural (a little fat gain of which I do mini-cuts every couple months to get rid of 2-3 pounds of fat). Could I gain faster? Probably, but naturally I'd be gaining more fat also, which I am steering away from (doing a clean slow bulk). I'm 10% bf now and have consistently gained for two years so I think I have my diet figured out. I'll probably drop to 8-9 percent before my AAS bulk cycle, so I will really overfeed (like 1k calories above my maintenance).
I love AAS because I can gain about 8-10 pounds a month with little or very minimal fat gain. It allows me to eat about double over maintenance what I can eat with minimal fat gain with my natural levels of testosterone.
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sunyata
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Here's my diet by the way when I live alone. Its a little different now cause i'm crashing at my parents so I get all sorts of crazy good high fat high carb awesome meat homecooked meals.
DIET:
7am: breakfast, cereal and shake, 5g fish oil (6 eggs, orange juice, whey) (50g protein/50g carb/35g fat)
9am: whey in water, fruit (usually apple or banana cause I'm kinda poor), peanut/almond butter (50g protein/25g carb/20g fat)
12pm: lunch, turkey/tuna/chicken sandwhich/wrap, veggies (35g protein/35g carb/0g fat)
3pm: whey in water (sometimes sub can of tuna here), fruit (same as above usually apple/banana), peanut/almond butter (50g protein/25g carb/20g fat) (if PWO, sub with dextrose/6 eggs/whey/OJ) (50g protein/50g carb/25g fat)
6pm: dinner, meat (chicken/fish/turkey/beef), sweet potato, veggies, olive oil/flax oil (50g protein/50g carb/25g fat)
9pm: snack, cottage cheese/fruit, 5g creatine (50g protein/30g carb/10g fat)
I just realized how much freaking whey I consume. Good thing I get it so cheap lol.
my macros are split about 45/35/20, slightly higher carbs on workout days (4 days a week). Maybe actually a little higher on fat. I think I might be low-balling the amount of fat I get from eggs (usually a dozen a day).
I almost always do 20 mins of light cardio spinning on a stationary bike after lifting (while sipping shake). I break a sweat but its not high intensity. I do 2 days on 1 off, and then sometimes 2 off after a couple rounds of 2on/1 off. I rotate squat and rack pulls as my main focus for getting stronger. For pressing I focus on OH press and do some floor pressing also. No bench pressing I think its a shitty exercise although for chest I will often do a long static hold/stretch with a heavy DB to directly stimulate chest. Off days I do a lot of foam rolling and try to get out and be active somehow (even if its just taking a walk or something). I take a lot of long contemplating walks (philosophy grad student after all!). My goal is to get back to my PR (315 box squat) after these last couple months detrained in that lift by the end of summer (which should be easy if I can keep from blowing off lifting too much to go surfing
). Then get to 405 at the end of fall. Also want a 405 rack pull (below knees).
Weight goals are 190 10-11% BF (height 5'6") then cut to 180/8-9%BF and TRY to maintain rest of my life.
DIET:
7am: breakfast, cereal and shake, 5g fish oil (6 eggs, orange juice, whey) (50g protein/50g carb/35g fat)
9am: whey in water, fruit (usually apple or banana cause I'm kinda poor), peanut/almond butter (50g protein/25g carb/20g fat)
12pm: lunch, turkey/tuna/chicken sandwhich/wrap, veggies (35g protein/35g carb/0g fat)
3pm: whey in water (sometimes sub can of tuna here), fruit (same as above usually apple/banana), peanut/almond butter (50g protein/25g carb/20g fat) (if PWO, sub with dextrose/6 eggs/whey/OJ) (50g protein/50g carb/25g fat)
6pm: dinner, meat (chicken/fish/turkey/beef), sweet potato, veggies, olive oil/flax oil (50g protein/50g carb/25g fat)
9pm: snack, cottage cheese/fruit, 5g creatine (50g protein/30g carb/10g fat)
I just realized how much freaking whey I consume. Good thing I get it so cheap lol.
my macros are split about 45/35/20, slightly higher carbs on workout days (4 days a week). Maybe actually a little higher on fat. I think I might be low-balling the amount of fat I get from eggs (usually a dozen a day).
I almost always do 20 mins of light cardio spinning on a stationary bike after lifting (while sipping shake). I break a sweat but its not high intensity. I do 2 days on 1 off, and then sometimes 2 off after a couple rounds of 2on/1 off. I rotate squat and rack pulls as my main focus for getting stronger. For pressing I focus on OH press and do some floor pressing also. No bench pressing I think its a shitty exercise although for chest I will often do a long static hold/stretch with a heavy DB to directly stimulate chest. Off days I do a lot of foam rolling and try to get out and be active somehow (even if its just taking a walk or something). I take a lot of long contemplating walks (philosophy grad student after all!). My goal is to get back to my PR (315 box squat) after these last couple months detrained in that lift by the end of summer (which should be easy if I can keep from blowing off lifting too much to go surfing
). Then get to 405 at the end of fall. Also want a 405 rack pull (below knees).Weight goals are 190 10-11% BF (height 5'6") then cut to 180/8-9%BF and TRY to maintain rest of my life.
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sunyata
Ex-Bluelighter
that might be right. Unfortunately I've never had the extra $ to think about messing around with GH 
GHRP-6 is cheap though 20 bucks for 5mg.
GHRP-6 is cheap though 20 bucks for 5mg.
sunyata
Ex-Bluelighter
the more I think about my cycle the more I think I might just run test/dbol/IGF and call it good on any other anabolics. I just keep seeing negative side effects with EQ and deca I don't really want to deal with. Plus I've only ever done test cycle, so it will be a stepup to do test/DBOL anyways. I think I should be conservative with my doses and not try out more than 1 new drug.
you should never do a cycle without test because when u use a compound , it will shut down your natural hpta which is why every cycle needs Test , which is why you need to replace it...
everybody knows how expensive GH are so ghrp is a good option since it works similiar to GH.
If anything just add more cal on your diet and do a simple test cycle
everybody knows how expensive GH are so ghrp is a good option since it works similiar to GH.
If anything just add more cal on your diet and do a simple test cycle
sunyata
Ex-Bluelighter
you didn't read carefully (or you just like to non-sequitor).
I'm definitely not contemplating a cycle without test. Test is best
I said I'm thinking about one with just test/dbol/IGF. No EQ or Deca...too many sides I'm reading with those.
I'm definitely not contemplating a cycle without test. Test is best
I said I'm thinking about one with just test/dbol/IGF. No EQ or Deca...too many sides I'm reading with those.
KStoner6tb
Bluelighter
you didn't read carefully (or you just like to non-sequitor).
I'm definitely not contemplating a cycle without test. Test is best
I said I'm thinking about one with just test/dbol/IGF. No EQ or Deca...too many sides I'm reading with those.
What kind of bad sides you reading up on with the 'poise? I know about the deca shit, but I've heard EQ is relatively light on the sides. EXplain Mr. teacher
sunyata
Ex-Bluelighter
It gives people anxiety above 400mg. I don't want to deal with that. I need to focus enough to remain a good and quiet person on just half gram of testosterone. And honestly I really think its a bad idea to introduce two new drugs simultaneously, whether thats nootropics, supplements, or steroids. Ya know?
Just introducing dianabol will be enough (that comes with its own sides to deal with) I dont need another powerful steroid added to the mix (and not be able to figure out what is causing what).
I like Dbol because if the sides are too much you can just drop it and they will disappear VERY quickly (halflife of 4-5 hours).
If you don't like the sides from EQ once it starts working (week 6-8) you have 4 weeks to deal with them even if you immediately stop injections. I don't like that.
Plus, I only have time to run 12 weeks of testosterone. I don't really think its worth it to run 10-12 weeks of EQ. When I try EQ (if I ever do which I kinda doubt) I will run it for 14-15 weeks, since it takes a solid 6-8 weeks to even feel it.
PLUS, I don't think I need it. A half gram of test alone will help me bulk to 800-1k calories above maintenance with little fat gain. Its all about EATING If I can eat enough without fat gain then why take more drugs???
Its easy to get caught up in the 'more is better' mentality. But its really a trap with steroids I think. More is not better and more almost certainly means a longer and harder recovery. Short recoveries for the win!!!
Just introducing dianabol will be enough (that comes with its own sides to deal with) I dont need another powerful steroid added to the mix (and not be able to figure out what is causing what).
I like Dbol because if the sides are too much you can just drop it and they will disappear VERY quickly (halflife of 4-5 hours).
If you don't like the sides from EQ once it starts working (week 6-8) you have 4 weeks to deal with them even if you immediately stop injections. I don't like that.
Plus, I only have time to run 12 weeks of testosterone. I don't really think its worth it to run 10-12 weeks of EQ. When I try EQ (if I ever do which I kinda doubt) I will run it for 14-15 weeks, since it takes a solid 6-8 weeks to even feel it.
PLUS, I don't think I need it. A half gram of test alone will help me bulk to 800-1k calories above maintenance with little fat gain. Its all about EATING
If I can eat enough without fat gain then why take more drugs???Its easy to get caught up in the 'more is better' mentality. But its really a trap with steroids I think. More is not better and more almost certainly means a longer and harder recovery. Short recoveries for the win!!!
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lonaburhwnia
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nice cycle....
sunyata
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here's updated. I have backed down the original idea into something quite simple (IGF/Test/Dbol). Simple is good.
1-11: Test E 450mg/week (2 shots of 225mg Mon/Thurs)
1-6: Dianabol 20-40mg ED (split two doses 10-20 morning/10-20 afternoon)
2-6, 11-15: IGF 20ug PWO (4 days a week - 100ug total/week)
7-10, 16-19: GHRP-6 (285ug at 2am in fasted state)
1-12: HCG 200IU mon-wed-fri
1-12: .25mg Amiridex ED
13-15: Nolva 40/30/20 & aromasin 25mg ED
I'm so fucking pumped to run this cycle. Goddamn I can't wait to hit it. Goals are a 405 squat and a 405 deadlift and a 190 OH press. Man oh man I'm going to try to rip that shit up.
/pumped
1-11: Test E 450mg/week (2 shots of 225mg Mon/Thurs)
1-6: Dianabol 20-40mg ED (split two doses 10-20 morning/10-20 afternoon)
2-6, 11-15: IGF 20ug PWO (4 days a week - 100ug total/week)
7-10, 16-19: GHRP-6 (285ug at 2am in fasted state)
1-12: HCG 200IU mon-wed-fri
1-12: .25mg Amiridex ED
13-15: Nolva 40/30/20 & aromasin 25mg ED
I'm so fucking pumped to run this cycle. Goddamn I can't wait to hit it. Goals are a 405 squat and a 405 deadlift and a 190 OH press. Man oh man I'm going to try to rip that shit up.
/pumped
