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Ye old 2C-T-4 thread

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There is a Big & Dandy 2C-T-4 Thread for this


this one has crossed my path, and after checking erowid, googling and searching here and there, i have only encoutered one report other than pihkal..anyone got a link or an experience to share?..
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This stuff has been on the market for months and there seems to be little interest by people in actually using it. I'm not surprised... sounds like a really long trip, which probably turns alot of people off right away, and its chemically pretty damn close to 2C-T-7. I suspect people are worried that it may have erratic dosage problems and high risk factors like 2C-T-7. A rational concern, since we still don't know what made 2C-T-7 so dangerous. I'm not expecting to see a flood of any 2C-T-4 reports anytime soon.
I suspect if you're curious about its effects, you'll just have to try it yourself. Sometimes you just have to take the plunge into uncharted waters for the sake of science, if you're interested. I know I've had to do that a few times. Its what separates those who are actually researchers from the "research chemical" wannabes who are just looking for the next easy high. At least there's some data points out there for 2C-T-4 so this isn't COMPLETELY unknown territory like AMDIPT or something. Theres a few reports in PIHKAL and at least 2 floating around the internet.
 
I'm also looking foward to giving this one a shot as it sounds pretty interesting and has produced some pretty rich experiences from what i've read also i'd love to give 2CE a shot but i'm having trouble locating any but i will eventualy get some also i'd love to come accross some 2CG which sounds like it will produce very nice experiences.
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Originally posted by Murple:
Theres a few reports in PIHKAL and at least 2 floating around the internet.
What two? I know of one that is here at bluelight where the guy thought it was psi-2C-T-4 (actually I think they were incorrectly calling it gamma-2C-T-4), but where is the other?
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Its what separates those who are actually researchers from the "research chemical" wannabes who are just looking for the next easy high
That and cash. Some of us just can't afford it at the moment.
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Yes, it is quite a long trip. I was tripping pretty hard for at least ten hours, and I was still feeling the lesser effects well over 24 hours later. I got a decent body buzz and some minor open eye visuals, but that's about where the T7 similarities ended. The worst part was the constant upset stomach. It's not the mild nausea that I get on other substances, this was a constant feeling that I was either going to vomit or crap my pants.
Don't go out of your way to find this substance, but if it happens to come your way then it's a nice little trip.
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Steve
 
i took it once so far. 10mg. i had a nice mellow trip for about 7 hours. ate some valium and passed out. nice gentle open eye visuals. thus far i've had great experiences with all the 2c's and this one was no different. i saw t7 similarities and experienced no body load. infact i was remarked but how it felt alot like 2cb to me at only 10mg. however i can't wait to delve deeper.
i've done, 2ct7, 2ct4, 2ci, 2cb.
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I have a report coming, so I won't get into much here. I'll only say it was very easy on the body compared to 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7 and was a very mental psychedelic as opposed to being sensual/sensory. One of those deep thinking trips, with little fireworks to it. Well worth trying at a much lower dosage than I took I think.
While the intensity of 18 mg wasn't too much to deal with, I went into a sorta dissociated state and felt too out of my body for insights or to gain much from the experience. I'll wager the 'sweet spot' for me is between 8 and 12 mg but I'm sure dosages will vary from person to person. If I were to ever take 2C-T-4 again, I'd go for 10 mg.
Oh, and also the trip didn't last that long. It wasn't 17 hr trip I was expecting. By the eighth hour, I was mostly down. Only some residual at the 12 hr point. 2C-T-4 was well worth my time to explore and I found it very easy on the body. Especially considering how high a dosage I took. Next time may be on a nice spring hike.
 
i took a higher dose recently. about 18mg. the visuals lasted a good 10 hours but as mgs said i was a bit discombobulated in the head. wasn't sure what to do or where i was going. just totally tripping face but couldn't really grasp anything. fun in its own right i suppose.
 
I took 20mg; my girlfriend 10mg. This dosage was good for us both although next time I think I would take 19mg. We were very impressed but yes it is rather long at 16-18 hours and not visual - not sure it would catch on as a recreational drug but certainly worth the serious psychonauts time. I too had quite some stomach discomfort but no other problems.
 
Didn't last so long for me. Or at least a sustained peak didn't.
As I said, there was noticable drop around the 6th hour and from I'd say 8th hour on till I went to sleep, I was +1 at best. And I didn't even get any stomach discomfort. I suddenly woke up from this dream-like state (I may have even been asleep) and needed to puke. After I emptied my guts, I was fine the rest of the night. I found T4 overall very easy on the body...at least compared to T2 and T7.
 
Im still curious to explore it more too. I only had it the one time, and I took way too much. But I want to explore it at a more reasonable level as it may be like 2C-I, in that smaller dosages are better (for me and others anyway.)

I want to try 2C-T-4 at the 10mg level. 18mg was overkill.
 
I know two people who just recently did this stuff, and they say they had spectacular and colourful experiences. Sadly, most people who take trips don't write to Erowid or anything, but I'll try to convince them to do so.
 
I'm a huuuuge t4 fan. I dose at 20mg, and I set a full 2 days aside for the trip- one for while I'm on it and one to recover. The nausea is inconsistent; I threw up the first time I tried it, had no stomach upset at all the second, and mild nausea with no vomiting the third time. I'm really looking forward to my next voyage, especially since the weather will be nice and I'll be able to spend time outside while on it. I only recommend it for people that truely enjoy a long dissociated trip, cuz once you take it, that's what you're in for. And the nausea I experienced the first time on it wasn't something that just subsided after coming up completely. It lingered and I was painfully dry-heaving 5 hours into the trip.

Something I find interesting on t4 is that k has little to no effect at all on me. Anyone else agree?
 
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And the nausea I experienced the first time on it wasn't something that just subsided after coming up completely. It lingered and I was painfully dry-heaving 5 hours into the trip.
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THAT doesn't sound good...

What did you like about the effects, though?
 
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