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Xanax Withdrawal

nil problems from only a few days use, in fact that should really be theraputic use. ( in theory ;) ) after four to six weeks expect withdrawals.
 
^Its different for everyone. Xanax is way too addictive to play with. Immortal Tek, SSRI's can be used to treat anxiety, and are a better first option in many ways then benzo's. The fact that you will not get addicted in any traditional sense to an SSRI and they have nil abuse potenital makes them favourable....however, they do cause long lasting emotional and neurological changes, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. I would suggest Zoloft as a good, non-stimulating SSRI, with few side-effects. That said, it still has side effects.
 
Thanks for the advice. I think ill stop my marijuana use for a prolonged period and see how that goes. If symptoms persist, then ill go do something about it.

I never knew benzo's could be so addictive :(
 
A light SSRI may be what you need. I don't like them, never will, but they work for a lot of people. Theyre for depression, OCD, bi-polar/bi-polar 2 (along with epelim as a mood stabiliser), anxiety disorders and other off label use. (Ive heard of Lovan(Prozac) being used to make sex addicts calm down)

If you feel edgey and anxious and dont have a weight problem, ask for Avanza (it gives u the munchies) Brillian sleeps (cept for the whacko dreams) and takes the edge off anxiety.


Avanza works pretty quickly because of its sedative effects, while SSRI's take much longer. Upto 8-12 weeks at times. But generally 2-4 weeks you should feel better and more confident.
I generally find them all to have varying effects, and some are stimulative and down right annoying. If you have asthma avoid Prozac(Lovan) and Epelim combo.
 
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I've been finding epilum + lorzapam + alapam as the best combo to stop anxiety in it's tracks, plus a fair wack of therapy which medicare has been nice enough to pick up the Tab for.
 
lorazepam? what are they called in Australia. And whats Alapam?
 
Sweet, ill go to the doc's and see what they say. Im generally very healthy mentally, its just this fucking stupid anxiety that strikes me down. Ill try and get a light SSRI and see if that helps.

You can't combine them with MDMA can you, as they are an MAOI? Thats a good thing, that means my ecstasy use although minimal will stop as well, like killing two birds with one stone.
 
SSRI's will pretty much stop the effects of MDMA and other stimulants, altho some people say Prozac/Lovan doesn't effect meth/speed. MAOIs are rarely prescribed and if you do get them prescribed say you eat a lot of old cheese and red wine and heard it was bad.

MDMA isn't something you should be taking for at least 9-12 months if you have anxiety. It definitely makes things worse, especially when weed is involved. Look at all the evidence.

As I said before, SSRI's make MDMA and psychedelic not work. The only drugs that will work is G, and you should keep away from that as it is addicttive and too easy to slip into using it a lot as it is the ultimate care-free anxiety-relief drug... but the rebound sucks with heavy usage.

Just quit the drugs man, and see how it goes,m if it doesn't get better, see your doc and ask for an SSRI. tell him if you're having sleep troubles as some meds like Prozac, Cipramil and others can keep you awake. Lexapro is a version of Cipramil with less side effects but you will gurn in your sleep and its a very weak SSRI, doesn't work for much people at all.

As i said in the other post, Avanza is a good choice. I'd stay away from doxepin and the other TCA's as they tend to make you need to drink 2 litres of water a night and make you so groggy you can't wake up in the morning and slowly build tolerance, but don't really seem addictive besides some rebound.
 
If you still need to take MDMA one time, you can stop two days before hand if its an SSRI, and take the MDMA on the night you want to. You will get effects. And you can save one for the comedown (read: not just when you come off it, much later on) for troubles with neurotoxicity, although studies have denied this actually works now, but some people still swear by it.
 
Cheers for your help mate. Im not a heavy drug user, but i have been using for a while now, i think i need a break from pills and shit. Tripping is still great but pills just mess with my head, legal or illegal.
 
alapam is the cheap version off serapax and lorazapam is called Ativan in Aus. the 2.5mgs tabs come in a bright pink box which you can't hide in a bag for anything. They really slow me down when i start thinking too much.

I'd rather be addicted benzo's for the rest off my life than another day on anti-psycotics (sereoquel) which my Dr tried an was the worse month off my life or close too.
 
There is no way that you are having any withdrawal from 20 mgs of Xanax over 3 days IMO. You have not had a previous benzo habit have you? Certainly there can be what's known as rebound from this (like not being able to sleep), but not physical dependence. This usually takes months for something like Xanax that has a short elimination half-life.

The way to test for sure is to take a benzo and see if the symptoms go away. If you do need to detox off Xanax, I would suggest clonazepam, which because of its long elimination half-life, high volume of distribution, long alpha distribution half-life and serotonergic effect at 5HT1a receptors, it is a good choice and is essentially like the methadone of benzodiazepines.

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^Yeah well if you're like me - my last GP gave me a 1mg Xanax script straight up on the first consult about Anxiety/Depression. I have a real problem with downers - i love them.

Xanax shouldn't make you feel hung over for more than 30 minutes at max when you wake up. It's half life is too short. unlike valium which the effects can continue into the next day (much like i feel now).

Benzos are extremely addictive - and to that end, It's only because they produce such unique effects without the general spectrum of side effects.

My GP won't put me on SSRIs because i am at high risk of suicide, and the initial 4-8 weeks is where i'll prolly attempt again. So i'm on Valium at the moment and going the CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) which is funded by medicare with a co-pay by me of $15. Perhaps speak to your GP about what you're going through. Anxiety and depression have many PHYSICAL symptoms, not just the ones going on in your head - and are very real.

So go get yourself checked out - and get a plan that will help.
 
Yeah, well the hangover lasted much longer than 30 mins. All day sunday i was a wreck, as well as feeling very off yesterday, feeling better today though.

Ill see a doc in a couple of weeks, ive stopped all drug intake so ill let that settle in and then plan my actions from there.
 
Really stick by that too. Youve got plenty of drug life left to do in the future with different experiences and emotions behind you to make them better experiences. Just take it as an indefinite long break. See if any meds can help you. You may also ask for a CBT specialist if you can get it on medicare (i think u can get 4 free sessions a year)
 
^ther's a new mental health care plan you can access through medicare - 12 sessions. You need to set it up through a GP.

CBT is quite good - you can have a go online at MoodGym to see what it's like..

...a dn yeah what Splatt said - get this sorted out so you can keep enjoying your drugs in the future =D
 
Did MoodGYM. Do they email you or something after reading results?
Because I already knew i had HIGH anxioety and depression. And knew the reasons why.

How is CBT supposed to reprogram you, or do you reprogram yourself?
 
Did about 30 mins of that MoodGym thing, pretty good actually for something as impersonal as a computer test.

ayjay, does your doctor refer you to someone who conducts the 12 sessions of CBT? I think that may be an option before i opt for medication.
 
Theyre for depression, OCD, bi-polar/bi-polar 2
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SSRI's- one major side effect- can be inducing mania in bi-polar patients (or anyone really). They are never a one-line treatment for these individuals, and have to include a mood-stabiliser to decrease mania.
 
ayjay, does your doctor refer you to someone who conducts the 12 sessions of CBT? I think that may be an option before i opt for medication
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Yes, that is what happens. You can choose the doctor if you knw one. The reason you get the refferal is to claim shit on Medicare. Only 12 sessions a year, and you don't usually get another refferral until you've finsihed your first lot (I got a six session refferral) so try to wisely pick a counsellor that will work for and with you.

And yes, it is defintely alarming how addictve benzo's are. Terryfying really. I find them to be a very unsettling drug to have to be on- I've been trying all year to get off them but I simply can't. Every time I taper, I feel okay and usually fuck up again to 'celebrate' or something equally sadistic. I am in withdrawl pretty much 24/7 these days, albeit mildish. They are fucked.
 
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