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"Xanax - More Addictive Than Heroin" short documentary

AFAIK the concept of the "reptilian brain" isn't even accepted by modern day neurologists. It's bullshit that somehow achieved popular currency, similar to "you only use 10% of your brain" or "dogs only see in black and white"

But then again we already realize this...;)
 
IMO alprazolam isn't really "addictive". Yes it can cause physical dependency but that's not really "addiction"

Yes it is. A drug that people take for psychoactive effects and is physically addictive is clearly addictive.

...which is defined more by things like "drug seeking behavior" and continually escalating dosages...neither of which are particularly common behaviors among anxiety patients
Yes, they are.

I'm also a GAD/panic disorder/insomnia patient who's been prescribed alprazolam on a number of occasions, as well as other GABAergic tranquilizers like lorazepam and zolpidem, so that's where I'm coming from...

Good for you if you've managed to avoid addiction. I hope that you never have to experience the withdrawal, but if you do, you'll be singing to a different tune entirely.
 
Are you trolling right now? Serious question.

Probably not my place but someone might ask you the same question.

Your first post in this thread was post #43 in the thread. Read it again think about your tone.

This is a discussion, there is no right answer.
 
I dont see anything wrong with their tone. TO me it seems fairly clear that xanax is addictive. But other people have other views and that is fine.

Xanax and Ativan, which belong to the benzodiazepine class of drugs, are most often used to manage the symptoms of anxiety disorders. These medications are designed for short-term use as they have a high potential for addiction.

The effects of Xanax abuse go far beyond the symptoms the drug creates. The real effects of Xanax abuse are seen in what it does to an addict’s life, mind and relationships. Since Xanax - including its generic form, alprazolam - is the most widely-prescribed of the benzodiazepines, it is also the most widely abused of these drugs.

And there are hundreds of thousands of people who are suffering the effects of Xanax abuse. Between 2004 and 2010, the number of people who visited emergency rooms who were suffering from the effects of Xanax increased from 46,000 to nearly 125,000.

These statistics also show how common it is to mix Xanax abuse with the use of other drugs. The Drug Awareness Warning Network notes that more than 96,000 of these people had used more than one drug, usually alcohol, opiates, marijuana or cocaine.

What Do People Say about the Effect of Xanax on their Lives?

Side Effects

Several years after his addiction to Xanax ended, one young man stated: “By the end when I sought help for my addiction, I was at a point where I couldn’t string a proper sentence of words together. I had NO memory and also false memories and to this day I still have short-term memory problems.”

An Australian woman described her experience trying to recover from Xanax addiction: “It’s been physically and emotionally painful. I have had headaches and migraines, muscle and stomach aches and loss of co-ordination. I have had mild paranoia. I have had intense flashbacks about stressful events. I’ve had nausea and vomiting. I sometimes feel suicidal.”

A college student with a relative taking Xanax said: “Having a close family member on Xanax is like trying to talk to someone who is on autopilot all of the time. You can never get through. They don’t remember important conversations. It’s like they are dead, but somehow still moving while on the drug. It really tears things apart. Not to mention having to worry about whether or not they will wake up the next morning.”

In 2002, Governor Jeb Bush’s daughter Noelle was arrested in Florida for prescription fraud when she tried to buy Xanax. She could have been buying this drug to self-medicate for anxiety, but a popular effect of Xanax is using the drug to settle down after Ecstasy abuse at a dance club.

More Damaging Side Effects

While these comments describe the larger effects on one’s life, there are still the more immediate side effects to contend with.

Double Vision
The effects of xanax abuse include:

Stomach problems like nausea or vomiting
Sight problems like blurred or double vision
Memory problems like amnesia or forgetfulness
Attention problems like lack of focus or confusion
Muscle control problems like lack of coordination and tremors
Lack of interest in sex
Recovering from the effects of Xanax abuse is difficult and even dangerous to do alone. Many people must be weaned off Xanax by a physician, sometimes in a medical detox environment. But when they are off the drug, the person will still need to recover from the damage the addiction does to mind, body, spirit and life.

What Is Xanax?
Even people who take the medication exactly as prescribed can become addicted to it without realizing it.
Xanax is the trade name of the prescription medication alprazolam, and is in a category of drugs known as benzodiazepines. Typically, doctors prescribe Xanax to treat patients suffering from anxiety and panic disorders.

The medication works by interacting with a receptor in the brain that in turn increases inhibitory brain activity, thus tempering any problematic excitement related to anxiety.

As a fast-acting drug, the majority of the benefits are established within an hour after use, with the total duration of effect being at least 6 hours. Xanax is commonly abused by those seeking it for its sedative effects.

Xanax is especially addictive when misused (taken recreationally or other than as directed). Anyone can become addicted to Xanax. According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, Xanax use can result in tolerance, addiction, and dependence if taken in large quantities or used for a prolonged period.

Even people who take the medication exactly as prescribed can become addicted to it without realizing it.

The Most Addictive Prescription Drugs on the Market
Written by Brian Krans
Medically Reviewed by George T. Krucik, MD, MBA on May 16, 2011
OverviewTypesXanaxKlonopinOxycodoneDemerolCodeineAmphetaminesRitalinHelping Loved OnesRead This Next
Part 1 of 10: Overview

Prescription Drug Addictions -

Just because pills are prescribed by a doctor and administered by a pharmacy, that doesn’t mean they are safe for everyone. As prescription numbers continue to rise, the chance for prescription drug abuse rises as well.

Learn about the most addictive prescription drugs, including Adderall, Xanax, Codeine, amphetamines, and more. Read on to begin learning about specific drugs that are commonly misused.

Part 2 of 10: Types
Types of Commonly Abused Drugs
The most widely abused pharmaceuticals fall into three categories:

Opioids: These produce a sought-after euphoric effect due to their pain killing abilities for short-term or chronic pain.
Central nervous system depressants: Also called tranquillizers and depressants, these include barbituates and benzodiazepines, some of the most abused drugs. They have a calming, relaxing effect, like a warm blanket on the brain.
Stimulants: This class increases brain activity, thereby increasing alertness and energy.

Part 3 of 10: Xanax
Xanax
Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepine prescribed to treat panic disorder and serious anxiety. It calms a person by depressing his or her abnormal central nervous system. Those without a prescription may abuse the drug for its fast-acting sedating and relaxing effects. The Drug Abuse Warning Network says Xanax is the most abused drug for these reasons.
 
After nearly twenty years on xanax or klonopin I have a half full bottle somewhere. I have now been totally off the stuff for almost four years. If I had a half full bottle of coke or heroin I would certanly have had to get rid of the bottle or it would have been an empty bottle. I'm not saying that my experience is what everyone experiences, but I sure have known quite a few people that dropped benzos and never looked back and many people who stopped taking them 24/7 and returned to occasional use.
 
Xanax works mostly on GABA, and DOES effect steritonin and dopamine to a lesser degree. and addiction isn't specific to only one neurotransmitter. benzos cause tissue dependence and psychological dependence. You are very lucky you didn't have that experience
 
I disagree as I feal dopamine is involved inherently in any addiction (phycological)
 
This is true it's long been thought to be at the center of all addiction.l, it's certainly drives that go/stop pathway ...I do know the science is ever evolving and there are many neurotransmitters, hundreds I think . Some drugs effect others more.
 
After nearly twenty years on xanax or klonopin I have a half full bottle somewhere. I have now been totally off the stuff for almost four years. If I had a half full bottle of coke or heroin I would certanly have had to get rid of the bottle or it would have been an empty bottle. I'm not saying that my experience is what everyone experiences, but I sure have known quite a few people that dropped benzos and never looked back and many people who stopped taking them 24/7 and returned to occasional use.

This is why I always use benzodiazepines as a prime example of a very dependence-forming, but fairly non-addictive class of drugs. There is no doubt that benzos cause heavy physiological dependence and the withdrawal can kill you, but you rarely see someone compulsively taking benzos unless they're dependent on them. Most people take them to relieve symptoms/avoid withdrawal, not because they want to get "high". It's similar to how I'm dependent on a beta-blocker because of my blood pressure - if I stop taking it, I may experience an episode of dangerously high blood pressure (due to WD), which is why I keep taking it, but it's not like I keep looking forward to taking it, anticipating the high/rush.

A good example of an addictive, but not really dependence-forming class of drugs is stimulants a la amphetamine.

Again, this is not to say that alprazolam (or other benzos) aren't addictive. Anything can be addictive. However, benzos are on the rather non-addictive end of the spectrum, IMO.
 
Clinically speaking- it's the opposite benzos can Easily create tissue dependance at low doses it takes several days for the body to deactivate them, so they kinda linger
They do create physical dependance. And the psychological piece makes it much much worse. Benzo WD is second to alcohol wd in terms of having serious life threatening complications. Yuck. Either way I'm glad I didn't fuck with them
 
Probably not my place but someone might ask you the same question.

Your first post in this thread was post #43 in the thread. Read it again think about your tone.

This is a discussion, there is no right answer.

The problem is that he is spreading bad information. I have a right to be incredulous. This is a HR site and baseless speculating that benzos are either 1) not at all addicting, or 2) less addicting that marijuana along with some made up statistics to support it is the antithesis of HR. Xanax in particular is one of the more addictive drugs overall (dependence can develop after mere weeks of use and last indefinitely) and downplaying it is just ridiculous. It's dangerous to people who might not be that informed and stumble upon this information, and it's insulting to the masses of people who have experienced benzo addiction and are having it's legitimacy questioned. Tell me, what good does it do to downplay the well-documented addiction potential of Xanax?

My post in #43 was spot on... Drug seeking behavior around benzos is well documented and I have personally witnessed women prostituting themselves for Xanax.

I'm usually a pretty calm guy but damn... let's try to be responsible, huh? This site is a HR resource -- let's treat it as such.

After nearly twenty years on xanax or klonopin I have a half full bottle somewhere. I have now been totally off the stuff for almost four years. If I had a half full bottle of coke or heroin I would certanly have had to get rid of the bottle or it would have been an empty bottle. I'm not saying that my experience is what everyone experiences, but I sure have known quite a few people that dropped benzos and never looked back and many people who stopped taking them 24/7 and returned to occasional use.

So you used Xanax and Klonopin for 20 years but don't consider it addictive? Yes, I'm one of those people who dropped benzos and never looked back too (I also have a nearly full bottle of Valium laying around), but that doesn't change the fact that I got addicted (multiple times in fact) and experienced the worst and most prolonged of withdrawals from them. If you look around at the reports on this site of benzo withdrawal, you will see many people who have been through both benzo and opiate withdrawal and consider benzo withdrawal to be worse.

neversickanymore said:
I disagree as I feal dopamine is involved inherently in any addiction (phycological)

Dopamine levels are in fact impacted by benzo use, as the poster you responded to correctly stated. Here's an illustration:

benzodiazepines.gif

Mechanisms of Benzodiazepine Addiction

Both inhibitory interneurons (labeled GABA) and dopaminergic neurons (labeled DA) are subject to the restraining influence of the inhibitory neurotransmitter GABA. A key difference, however, is that GABA influences the inhibitory interneurons largely via the alpha-1 subset of GABAA receptors and the dopaminergic neurons largely via the alpha-3 subtype. (Right Image) Benzodiazepines currently on the market do not interact strongly with alpha-3 GABAA receptors on dopaminergic neurons and so have no direct impact on dopamine release. However, the drugs do interact strongly with alpha-1 GABAA receptors, thereby curtailing inhibitory interneurons’ release of GABA into synapses with dopaminergic neurons. The net result is a lessening of GABA restraint on the dopaminergic neurons and an increase in dopamine release.
 
^link to your source https://www.drugabuse.gov/news-even...nderlies-benzodiazepines-addictive-properties

Like I said easily causes physical dependence. If it manipulates dopamine then it can be addictive. But I bet the levels are really low. Do you ever crave benzos? Do you ever have using dreams of benzos?

Addiction Guide:​


Addiction defined by ASAM: The American Society of Addictive Medicine
SOURCE

Definition of Addiction:
Addiction is a primary, chronic disease of brain reward, motivation, memory and related circuitry. Addiction affects neurotransmission and interactions within reward structures of the brain, including the nucleus accumbens, anterior cingulate cortex, basal forebrain and amygdala, such that motivational hierarchies are altered and addictive behaviors, which may or may not include alcohol and other drug use, supplant healthy, self-care related behaviors. Addiction also affects neurotransmission and interactions between cortical and hippocampal circuits and brain reward structures, such that the memory of previous exposures to rewards (such as food, sex, alcohol and other drugs) leads to a biological and behavioral response to external cues, in turn triggering craving and/or engagement in addictive behaviors.

The neurobiology of addiction encompasses more than the neurochemistry of reward.1 The frontal cortex of the brain and underlying white matter connections between the frontal cortex and circuits of reward, motivation and memory are fundamental in the manifestations of altered impulse control, altered judgment, and the dysfunctional pursuit of rewards (which is often experienced by the affected person as a desire to “be normal”) seen in addiction--despite cumulative adverse consequences experienced from engagement in substance use and other addictive behaviors. The frontal lobes are important in inhibiting impulsivity and in assisting individuals to appropriately delay gratification. When persons with addiction manifest problems in deferring gratification, there is a neurological locus of these problems in the frontal cortex. Frontal lobe morphology, connectivity and functioning are still in the process of maturation during adolescence and young adulthood, and early exposure to substance use is another significant factor in the development of addiction. Many neuroscientists believe that developmental morphology is the basis that makes early-life exposure to substances such an important factor.

Genetic factors account for about half of the likelihood that an individual will develop addiction. Environmental factors interact with the person’s biology and affect the extent to which genetic factors exert their influence. Resiliencies the individual acquires (through parenting or later life experiences) can affect the extent to which genetic predispositions lead to the behavioral and other manifestations of addiction. Culture also plays a role in how addiction becomes actualized in persons with biological vulnerabilities to the development of addiction.


Other factors that can contribute to the appearance of addiction, leading to its characteristic bio-psycho-socio-spiritual manifestations, include:
  • The presence of an underlying biological deficit in the function of reward circuits, such that drugs and behaviors which enhance reward function are preferred and sought as reinforcers
  • The repeated engagement in drug use or other addictive behaviors, causing neuron-adaptation in motivational circuitry leading to impaired control over further drug use or engagement in addictive behaviors
  • Cognitive and affective distortions, which impair perceptions and compromise the ability to deal with feelings, resulting in significant self-deception
  • Disruption of healthy social supports and problems in interpersonal relationships which impact the development or impact of resiliences
  • Exposure to trauma or stressors that overwhelm an individual’s coping abilities;
  • Distortion in meaning, purpose and values that guide attitudes, thinking and behavior;
  • Distortions in a person’s connection with self, with others and with the transcendent and the presence of co-occurring psychiatric disorders in persons who engage in substance use or other addictive behaviors.

Addiction is characterized by2:
  • Inability to consistently Abstain;
  • Impairment in Behavioral control;
  • Craving; or increased “hunger” for drugs or rewarding experiences;
  • Diminished recognition of significant problems with one’s behaviors and interpersonal relationships; and
  • A dysfunctional Emotional response.
  • The power of external cues to trigger craving and drug use, as well as to increase the frequency of engagement in other potentially addictive behaviors, is also a characteristic of addiction, with the hippocampus being important in memory of previous euphoric or dysphoric experiences, and with the amygdala being important in having motivation concentrate on selecting behaviors associated with these past experiences.

Although some believe that the difference between those who have addiction, and those who do not, is the quantity or frequency of alcohol/drug use, engagement in addictive behaviors (such as gambling or spending)3, or exposure to other external rewards (such as food or sex), a characteristic aspect of addiction is the qualitative way in which the individual responds to such exposures, stressors and environmental cues. A particularly pathological aspect of the way that persons with addiction pursue substance use or external rewards is that preoccupation with, obsession with and/or pursuit of rewards (e.g., alcohol and other drug use) persist despite the accumulation of adverse consequences. These manifestations can occur compulsively or impulsively, as a reflection of impaired control.

Persistent risk and/or recurrence of relapse, after periods of abstinence, is another fundamental feature of addiction. This can be triggered by exposure to rewarding substances and behaviors, by exposure to environmental cues to use, and by exposure to emotional stressors that trigger heightened activity in brain stress circuits.4

In addiction there is a significant impairment in executive functioning, which manifests in problems with perception, learning, impulse control, compulsivity, and judgment. People with addiction often manifest a lower readiness to change their dysfunctional behaviors despite mounting concerns expressed by significant others in their lives; and display an apparent lack of appreciation of the magnitude of cumulative problems and complications. The still developing frontal lobes of adolescents may both compound these deficits in executive functioning and predispose youngsters to engage in “high risk” behaviors, including engaging in alcohol or other drug use. The profound drive or craving to use substances or engage in apparently rewarding behaviors, which is seen in many patients with addiction, underscores the compulsive or avolitional aspect of this disease. This is the connection with “powerlessness” over addiction and “unmanageability” of life, as is described in Step 1 of 12 Steps programs.

Addiction is more than a behavioral disorder. Features of addiction include aspects of a person’s behaviors, cognitions, emotions, and interactions with others, including a person’s ability to relate to members of their family, to members of their community, to their own psychological state, and to things that transcend their daily experience.


Behavioral manifestations and complications of addiction, primarily due to impaired control, can include:
  • Excessive use and/or engagement in addictive behaviors, at higher frequencies and/or quantities than the person intended, often associated with a persistent desire for and unsuccessful attempts at behavioral control;
  • Excessive time lost in substance use or recovering from the effects of substance use and/or engagement in addictive behaviors, with significant adverse impact on social and occupational functioning (e.g. the development of interpersonal relationship problems or the neglect of responsibilities at home, school or work);
  • Continued use and/or engagement in addictive behaviors, despite the presence of persistent or recurrent physical or psychological problems which may have been caused or exacerbated by substance use and/or related addictive behaviors;
  • A narrowing of the behavioral repertoire focusing on rewards that are part of addiction; and
  • An apparent lack of ability and/or readiness to take consistent, ameliorative action despite recognition of problems.

Cognitive changes in addiction can include:
  • Preoccupation with substance use;
  • Altered evaluations of the relative benefits and detriments associated with drugs or rewarding behaviors; and
  • The inaccurate belief that problems experienced in one’s life are attributable to other causes rather than being a predictable consequence of addiction.
Emotional changes in addiction can include:
  • Increased anxiety, dysphoria and emotional pain;
  • Increased sensitivity to stressors associated with the recruitment of brain stress systems, such that “things seem more stressful” as a result; and
  • Difficulty in identifying feelings, distinguishing between feelings and the bodily sensations of emotional arousal, and describing feelings to other people (sometimes referred to as alexithymia).

The emotional aspects of addiction are quite complex. Some persons use alcohol or other drugs or pathologically pursue other rewards because they are seeking “positive reinforcement” or the creation of a positive emotional state (“euphoria”). Others pursue substance use or other rewards because they have experienced relief from negative emotional states (“dysphoria”), which constitutes “negative reinforcement.“ Beyond the initial experiences of reward and relief, there is a dysfunctional emotional state present in most cases of addiction that is associated with the persistence of engagement with addictive behaviors. The state of addiction is not the same as the state of intoxication. When anyone experiences mild intoxication through the use of alcohol or other drugs, or when one engages non-pathologically in potentially addictive behaviors such as gambling or eating, one may experience a “high”, felt as a “positive” emotional state associated with increased dopamine and opioid peptide activity in reward circuits. After such an experience, there is a neurochemical rebound, in which the reward function does not simply revert to baseline, but often drops below the original levels. This is usually not consciously perceptible by the individual and is not necessarily associated with functional impairments.

Over time, repeated experiences with substance use or addictive behaviors are not associated with ever increasing reward circuit activity and are not as subjectively rewarding. Once a person experiences withdrawal from drug use or comparable behaviors, there is an anxious, agitated, dysphoric and labile emotional experience, related to suboptimal reward and the recruitment of brain and hormonal stress systems, which is associated with withdrawal from virtually all pharmacological classes of addictive drugs. While tolerance develops to the “high,” tolerance does not develop to the emotional “low” associated with the cycle of intoxication and withdrawal. Thus, in addiction, persons repeatedly attempt to create a “high”--but what they mostly experience is a deeper and deeper “low.” While anyone may “want” to get “high”, those with addiction feel a “need” to use the addictive substance or engage in the addictive behavior in order to try to resolve their dysphoric emotional state or their physiological symptoms of withdrawal. Persons with addiction compulsively use even though it may not make them feel good, in some cases long after the pursuit of “rewards” is not actually pleasurable.5 Although people from any culture may choose to “get high” from one or another activity, it is important to appreciate that addiction is not solely a function of choice. Simply put, addiction is not a desired condition.

As addiction is a chronic disease, periods of relapse, which may interrupt spans of remission, are a common feature of addiction. It is also important to recognize that return to drug use or pathological pursuit of rewards is not inevitable.

Clinical interventions can be quite effective in altering the course of addiction. Close monitoring of the behaviors of the individual and contingency management, sometimes including behavioral consequences for relapse behaviors, can contribute to positive clinical outcomes. Engagement in health promotion activities which promote personal responsibility and accountability, connection with others, and personal growth also contribute to recovery. It is important to recognize that addiction can cause disability or premature death, especially when left untreated or treated inadequately.

The qualitative ways in which the brain and behavior respond to drug exposure and engagement in addictive behaviors are different at later stages of addiction than in earlier stages, indicating progression, which may not be overtly apparent.

As is the case with other chronic diseases, the condition must be monitored and managed over time to:
  • Decrease the frequency and intensity of relapses;
  • Sustain periods of remission;
  • Optimize the person’s level of functioning during periods of remission.

In some cases of addiction, medication management can improve treatment outcomes. In most cases of addiction, the integration of psychosocial rehabilitation and ongoing care with evidence-based pharmacological therapy provides the best results. Chronic disease management is important for minimization of episodes of relapse and their impact. Treatment of addiction saves lives †

Recovery from addiction is best achieved through a combination of self-management, mutual support, and professional care provided by trained and certified professionals.



______________________________________

† See ASAM Public Policy Statement on Treatment for Alcohol and Other Drug Addiction, Adopted: May 01, 1980, Revised: January 01, 2010

‡ see ASAM Public Policy Statement on The Relationship between Treatment and Self Help: A Joint Statement of the American Society of Addiction Medicine, the American Academy of Addiction Psychiatry, and the American Psychiatric Association, Adopted: December 01, 1997

Explanatory footnotes:

1. The neurobiology of reward has been well understood for decades, whereas the neurobiology of addiction is still being explored. Most clinicians have learned of reward pathways including projections from the ventral tegmental area (VTA) of the brain, through the median forebrain bundle (MFB), and terminating in the nucleus accumbens (Nuc Acc), in which dopamine neurons are prominent. Current neuroscience recognizes that the neurocircuitry of reward also involves a rich bi-directional circuitry connecting the nucleus accumbens and the basal forebrain. It is the reward circuitry where reward is registered, and where the most fundamental rewards such as food, hydration, sex, and nurturing exert a strong and life-sustaining influence. Alcohol, nicotine, other drugs and pathological gambling behaviors exert their initial effects by acting on the same reward circuitry that appears in the brain to make food and sex, for example, profoundly reinforcing. Other effects, such as intoxication and emotional euphoria from rewards, derive from activation of the reward circuitry. While intoxication and withdrawal are well understood through the study of reward circuitry, understanding of addiction requires understanding of a broader network of neural connections involving forebrain as well as midbrain structures. Selection of certain rewards, preoccupation with certain rewards, response to triggers to pursue certain rewards, and motivational drives to use alcohol and other drugs and/or pathologically seek other rewards, involve multiple brain regions outside of reward neurocircuitry itself.

2. These five features are not intended to be used as “diagnostic criteria” for determining if addiction is present or not. Although these characteristic features are widely present in most cases of addiction, regardless of the pharmacology of the substance use seen in addiction or the reward that is pathologically pursued, each feature may not be equally prominent in every case. The diagnosis of addiction requires a comprehensive biological, psychological, social and spiritual assessment by a trained and certified professional.

3. In this document, the term "addictive behaviors" refers to behaviors that are commonly rewarding and are a feature in many cases of addiction. Exposure to these behaviors, just as occurs with exposure to rewarding drugs, is facilitative of the addiction process rather than causative of addiction. The state of brain anatomy and physiology is the underlying variable that is more directly causative of addiction. Thus, in this document, the term “addictive behaviors” does not refer to dysfunctional or socially disapproved behaviors, which can appear in many cases of addiction. Behaviors, such as dishonesty, violation of one’s values or the values of others, criminal acts etc., can be a component of addiction; these are best viewed as complications that result from rather than contribute to addiction.
4. The anatomy (the brain circuitry involved) and the physiology (the neuro-transmitters involved) in these three modes of relapse (drug- or reward-triggered relapse vs. cue-triggered relapse vs. stress-triggered relapse) have been delineated through neuroscience research.

Relapse triggered by exposure to addictive/rewarding drugs, including alcohol, involves the nucleus accumbens and the VTA-MFB-Nuc Acc neural axis (the brain's mesolimbic dopaminergic "incentive salience circuitry"--see footnote 2 above). Reward-triggered relapse also is mediated by glutamatergic circuits projecting to the nucleus accumbens from the frontal cortex.

Relapse triggered by exposure to conditioned cues from the environment involves glutamate circuits, originating in frontal cortex, insula, hippocampus and amygdala projecting to mesolimbic incentive salience circuitry.

Relapse triggered by exposure to stressful experiences involves brain stress circuits beyond the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis that is well known as the core of the endocrine stress system. There are two of these relapse-triggering brain stress circuits – one originates in noradrenergic nucleus A2 in the lateral tegmental area of the brain stem and projects to the hypothalamus, nucleus accumbens, frontal cortex, and bed nucleus of the stria terminalis, and uses norepinephrine as its neurotransmitter; the other originates in the central nucleus of the amygdala, projects to the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis and uses corticotrophin-releasing factor (CRF) as its neurotransmitter.

5. Pathologically pursuing reward (mentioned in the Short Version of this definition) thus has multiple components. It is not necessarily the amount of exposure to the reward (e.g., the dosage of a drug) or the frequency or duration of the exposure that is pathological. In addiction, pursuit of rewards persists, despite life problems that accumulate due to addictive behaviors, even when engagement in the behaviors ceases to be pleasurable. Similarly, in earlier stages of addiction, or even before the outward manifestations of addiction have become apparent, substance use or engagement in addictive behaviors can be an attempt to pursue relief from dysphoria; while in later stages of the disease, engagement in addictive behaviors can persist even though the behavior no longer provides relief.



Physical Dependence
Physical dependence refers to a state resulting from chronic use of a drug that has produced tolerance and where negative physical symptoms of withdrawal result from abrupt discontinuation or dosage reduction- NCI Dictionary of Cancer Terms". Retrieved 2008-12-21



Difference Between Addiction and Physical Dependence

Addiction—or compulsive drug use despite harmful consequences—is characterized by an inability to stop using a drug; failure to meet work, social, or family obligations; and, sometimes (depending on the drug), tolerance and withdrawal. The latter reflect physical dependence in which the body adapts to the drug, requiring more of it to achieve a certain effect (tolerance) and eliciting drug-specific physical or mental symptoms if drug use is abruptly ceased (withdrawal). Physical dependence can happen with the chronic use of many drugs—including many prescription drugs, even if taken as instructed. Thus, physical dependence in and of itself does not constitute addiction, but it often accompanies addiction. This distinction can be difficult to discern, particularly with prescribed pain medications, for which the need for increasing dosages can represent tolerance or a worsening underlying problem, as opposed to the beginning of abuse or addiction. -Principles of Drug Addiction Treatment: A Research-Based Guide (Third Edition)

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^ @NSA, many people tend to confuse physical dependence and psychological addiction, and use the terms interchangeably when they're actually not the same at all. This I think is the case with cashfl0w_donkey's argument. Nobody argues that benzos do not cause physical dependence - on the contrary, benzo dependence is among the worst of all. However, their addictive potential is rather low compared to other drugs. On the other hand, cannabis may not be that physically dependence-forming, but it certainly is addictive to a significant extent.
 
I get using dreams for every drug I've used. Last night I had a dream I got some xannies and molly. Some of crap you spout NSA makes me sick.
 
sorry you chose to be sick as i dont bother reading your posts i don't know if they would make me sick.
 
You sent an abrasive post and got one back. Quit whining and attack what I post instead of posting weak posts against me?

If you want give a short run down of your using dream. Molly certanly manipulates the vta.. but what happened in your dream?
 
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