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dont know if ne1 heard but american drug research is sayin X and weed is alot safer than alchol and tobacco!!

what r your thoughts on this cause i feel like this may be good for us!?
 
A helluva lot more research needs to be done, and that is going to be very hard to do with the asinine drug laws in the way.

Certain pols need to wake up and realize there is some benefit to be had by not going all knee-jerk and banning everything for the sake of looking like they are doing something 'good' for the people.

Write your state reps? Laziness shouldn't be detriment to doing that. If you want ecstasy to be legal, do something about it. At the very least, become as informed as you possibly can, and don't back down if someone tries to ridicule your views, as 'abnormal' as they may be.

Decent reasoning will come through for you in the end...

On the suggestion that tobacco and alcohol are much worse for you... The issue is a giant one. On one hand, people don't like being told what they can and can't put in their own bodies. On the other hand, misuse of a substance can have pretty disastrous effects.

The key is balancing availability with reason. We can't allow just anybody to go out and buy whatever substance they want. There will always be those people who don't have the knowlege or sense to allow that availability... Should a six year-old be allowed to buy a twelve-case? How about a gram of coke...?

I don't believe however that the outright banning of a substance to all is right... but where do we draw the line?
 
i think this helps arguments on some of the prohibition......

its hard for someone to tell use all the evils of weed and x when legal things like tobacco and alchol are more fatal to you and in a case like alchol put everyone round u at risk!
 
it's obvious too much of any drug will cause you damage, there's alot of people out there who take x moderately and are quite intelligent, but there's also some people out there who take it quite excessively and makes you wonder if they're brain damaged. i'd say the drug laws are here to protect us from those irresponsible drug users who will be driving one day and kill one of us or a family member, but for the reason why alcohol is legal withdraws that idea.
 
colors said:
why are benzos so high on the list?
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i would guess from their effect of depression of the breathing rate, it's not so much of a problem for young people with a naturally good cardiovascular system but as you get old that slowed breathing can cause major amounts of oxygen to not reach your brain and other vital organs
 
maybe because of addiction potential? look at all the alchoholics there are. and thats because booze ease social anxiety a lot of the time. now think of how many people would get hooked on something that eases social anxiety as well or better AND doent make you feel like shit the next day. either way, prohibition of any substance is insane.
 
LvMkngFlwrChld said:
maybe because of addiction potential? look at all the alchoholics there are. and thats because booze ease social anxiety a lot of the time. now think of how many people would get hooked on something that eases social anxiety as well or better AND doent make you feel like shit the next day. either way, prohibition of any substance is insane.
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Ah yes! I definitely think much of alcohol's popularity is based on its effects on social interaction. How many people have you heard saying something along the lines of "Just need to get me a little liquid courage, and I'll be fine..."

Hell, I've said similar many times myself. ;)
 
As hydrostatic mentioned, this was in a report by a British government advisory committee. It's not new, they announced these results unofficially a few years ago. But it is good news :). I very much doubt that it will lead to any changes in the law, at least in the near future, but it may help pave the way for future changes.

Bear in mind that this study is based on expert opinion of the relative risks of each drug. It's possible that if they had asked different experts, the results would have been different.

Remember also that they are talking about relative risk: the study didn't say that MDMA is safe - it said that it is less dangerous than alcohol. It is correct, though, that the risk of dying from alcohol is much greater than the risk of dying from MDMA. There are other reasons to be careful about using MDMA - notably the potential for abuse to lead to depression. [It's ironic that most govt anti-drug campaigns focus on the risk of death, when this risk is actually quite low).
 
i saw it on CNN last night they said it was american testing

sorry didnt mean it was safe just less riskier
 
Even if the drug proved to be safe, the government would stop pushing the "if you take this you will die angle" and they would start promoting how it would make you steal, or be irresponsible, or non functional. That's the problem with propaganda, it isn't accurate.

I think that all substances should be legalized regardless of neurotoxicity, or other harm that it may cause. It's proven (by all people who use illicit drugs) that prohibition does not work. The only thing that prohibition ensures that is criminals make lots of money. I think that consenting adults should be able to make the choice for themselves regarding what substances that they ingest. I also wouldn't mind if the government placed a tax on all recreational substances, I would gladly pay the "peace of mind" tax to know that the substance I was picking up was 100% pure and non adulterated.

The government has a long way to go, if they in fact ever make the consideration to being legalizing substances. And as a previous poster has said, it will be extremely difficult to do any research showing long term effects and the potential of neurotoxicity since the substances are illegal.
 
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