Wtf is dubstep?

It shits me that if I tell people I like dubstep, they automatically think that means I like sub-base at 160BPM/wubwubwub/filth/skrillex/comatmebrostep.

Mate, that's what the word "dubstep" means in this day and age, for better or for worse. That's like saying, "it shits me that if I tell people I'm gay, they automatically think that means I'm a homosexual". The word "gay" originally had nothing to do with sexual orientation. But now it does, and you've just got to deal with that.
 
Mate, that's what the word "dubstep" means in this day and age, for better or for worse. That's like saying, "it shits me that if I tell people I'm gay, they automatically think that means I'm a homosexual". The word "gay" originally had nothing to do with sexual orientation. But now it does, and you've just got to deal with that.

It's brostep. That's like calling Pantera a blues band.
 
QFmotherfuckingT

Dub step was what happened when some dj's in the UK startetd mixing two-step records with dub techniques. (add more bass echos and other dub techniques)

Two step (garage)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyap5JoF3hE&feature=related

Dub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB5JfiTTqQw&feature=related

REAL DUB STEP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVpjPuzlvus

When skream took it in another direction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAC8APZymA

The shit you hear today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKlEuu4NgI&t=0m16s

This man knows ^

Dubstep is now mainstream but it really is nothing like original dubstep. And know we have the post dubstep-future garage movement kinda gone full circle back to garage influences among others.

Skrillx can eat a dick.
 
Dubstep = Brostep

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Can't believe you guys are arguing about what is or isn't proper dubstep.
So many people are claiming it as brostep if it sounds slightly different than another track from the same genre, yet if you compare it to techno, trance, jungle, house, or electro you would hear a HUGE difference in comparison.

It's just like when people were having those Jungle vs Drum & Bass arguments.
 
Weird to think that an entirely new genre of music has evolved within our lifetimes, isn't it? That the arts are changing so rapidly that we can see & hear it happen before our very eyes & ears? When I was a little kid, and my parents told me about the advancement of technology and fashion and music and language that they witnessed, I remember thinking, "Wow! I wonder what sort of changes I'll see in my life!" Well, here it is: dubstep. :D

I mean, even since I started following it, which was around maybe around 2003, electronic music in general has undergone a HUGE evolution. It's just amazing, really.

Yeah, EDM changes quite a bit since the 90s. It kinda entered the mainstream, but also split into completely new areas.

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Can't believe you guys are arguing about what is or isn't proper dubstep.
So many people are claiming it as brostep if it sounds slightly different than another track from the same genre, yet if you compare it to techno, trance, jungle, house, or electro you would hear a HUGE difference in comparison.

It's just like when people were having those Jungle vs Drum & Bass arguments.

Jungle and D&B are pretty different and not only because of the sound.
 
well as a qualified percussion teacher,
a degree in sound engineering,
an owner of my own record label,
a music producer/DJ with 20-odd years in the industry,
having grown up carting round sound systems in Brighton and south London,
and been very much present throughout the birth of the dubstep scene,
I feel im qualified to speak here.

Firstly, let's ditch this nonsense with regards to personal taste.
The fact is that ALL genres of music take hours of sifting through and finding tracks that suit you.
I would say i "like" dubstep, and i "like" rock music, however the reality is that 99% of any style of music, even one i claim to like, is not really my cup of tea.
The tracks i panstaikingly choose and produce, are, like your own beloved classics, entirely personal tastes and thus entirely subjective.
So let's focus more on the gist of this thread and the points raised here.

basically dubstep has very little relation to dub reggae other than the use of oscillators, off beat high hats, and a love of sub bass.
"dub" was coined by king tubby for the most part, an electrician and reggae artist, who built one of the first oscillating synthesizers and echo/effects equipment.
dub is driven by a dominant sub bass loop, snare echoes, synth/effects stabs, and up beat/off beat chord strikes ie. one AND two AND one AND two AND.
originally coined around mid to late 70s, here is the roots of dub music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUAJHIuJo0&feature=related

the similarities with dub step are more present in some tracks than others, though for the mot part, comparisons are tenuous.
"dub step" came out of the back end of the garage scene, and hence often uses a two step beat. ie kick-kick, snare-snare, kick-kick, snare-snare, kick-kick snare-snare, kicka-da-kick-kick snare snare.
at the tail end of the garage scene, the few survivors were playing a very different kind of sound,
mfor a while we deemed the genre "Raggage".
It largely consisted of very dark and broody, heavy, low sub bass.
This is late 90s were talking here... have a listen to what im talking about here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onQmWbfIpdI&feature=related
note the use of sub bass and the two step drum beat.

dubstep took things a leap forward in terms of what was possible with harware and software sounds.
Dubstep makes use largely of the LFO or low frequency oscillator in order to drive the rythm of the powerful bass sound.
The LFO is what creates "wobbles" however fast or slow. waves basically, where the heavy bass sound is sent to the cut off filter and often given a unique rhythmical quality.
Sub bass is inherent to dubstep, it is part of what defines it, and although there are a lot of very different sounds out there, rhtymical or polyrythmical bass oscillations are intrinsic to 90% of the production.
Dubstep is "Club" music.
the resonant frequencies of the music are tailored to suit large sound systems and to be not only heard, but listened to, and not only listened to, but FELT through the whole body.
this is why dubstep suits the sound of vinyl, and most of us dub heads cut to records over mp3 or cd, as the mastering suits this heavy bass.
proper dubstep sounds shit on little headphones or your home stereo.
t was born in the clubs and is only truly experienced there.

dubstep is unique in that the bass oscillation sets the tempo and rhythm of the music.
house, trance, techno, electro, drum and bass, breakbeat etc are driven by the dominant drum beats.
this may be a 4 on the floor kick drum, or a powerful breakbeat.
dubstep is different.
whilst produced essentially at 140bpm, the same speed as psychedelic trance, hard techno, nu school breaks,
it is, for the most part only the rhythm of the bass that could be defined as so.
dubstep, unlike garage, uses HALF TEMPO drums, ie a slow 70bpm, very understated and subtle drum beat.

if psychedelic goes...
kick tss kick tss kick tss kick tss kick tss kick tss kick tss kick tss.. then dubstep goes;
kick tss tss tss snare tss tss tss kick tss tss tss snare tss tss tss

this means there is a lot of space in the music for effects, sub bass compression, lyrics, melodies, progression, ambience.
dubstep can take on the feel of almost any genre.
whether you like grungey punk guitars,
or psychedelic acid twisted synthesizers,
or dub reggae skankin roots style,
or euphoric female vocals,
or dirty filthy insanely overdriven and wobbletastic nastiness...
theres something there for you.

the issue like any genre is finding what you like.

dubstep is the first entirely new electronic genre for many years, and as such is subject to a unique problem that, as a music producer, I had not encountered before. That problem is READILY AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY!
the average decent computer and the average production software like fl studio, reason, ableton, cubase etc are all perfectly up to the task of producing music without the need for too much in the way of hardware, studio equipment, experience, knowledge, taste or decency!!
As such, every man and his dog has had a crack at knocking out some aural monstrosity.
not only that, but the advances in online sharing/posting/uploading mean that the music doesn't have to be approved and realesed by a sound engineer/record label either, hence the fact that there is A LOT of rubbish out there.

to some extent in the mid ninetees for example, whne i was producing acid techno or jungle...
you needed hardware,
experienced mates,
a lot of time,
to create a cd/tape,
send it off to a million labels,
work on the advice by the ones that bothered to reply,
and then your shit was mastered and cut to vinyle by a professional, and released properly..
this whole process meant that, whilst "taste" was subjective, the majority of music was well produced at least.
dubstep - not always the case.
Having said that,
some of the best music production ive ever heard in my life, has come out of the dubstep scene....

if you like epic female vocal remixes listen here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2XmLcnYSwQ

if you like representing the roots of dub and reggae listen here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFO0374z3IY

if you like classic simpe catchy driving sub bass listen here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6rAva-j5AM&feature=related

if you like impressive sound production/ D n B style synthesizers and bass listen here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMdXkKLGFG8

if you like to really chill it out with classical strings and bass listen here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLyxHGtFBZY

if you like to destroy your sub and damage the foundations of your entire street listen here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn8AU15VJzI

if you want to know what may be next up and around the corner?
perhaps the official birth of the sub genre "dub hop"?
all credit, or at least a smudge of it to me lol.
my latest unfinished and unmastered and fresh efforts of the weekend in the studio are here...
http://soundcloud.com/bigman-productions/dubhop


if you really want to know more about dubstep,
where it came from,
when it happened,
which of us were involved,
what the "real" scene is like,
why it is good,
and why you like it...
check out a wicked documentary called bassweight here.
it speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udKX7mZcpbI
 
To whoever linked the la roux - in for the kill remix

I decided to find the original track

The top-rated comment..

This song sucks! Without Skrillex I wouldn't even have listened to the first 10 secs.

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aye tha was I.
as i said before, there's no accounting for taste.
skrillx jumped on the bandwagon late anyway, skream's remix was much nicer, in my humble opinion of course!!
gotta pay respect to the originals though.
 
Its a shame to see what dub has become ... Dub the likes of king tubby,upsetters and scientist to name a few made a massive mark in the music industry influencing every aspect of electronic music .. When the 90's came around and ambient trippy dub by the likes of the Orb and mad proffesor which IMO is pure musical perfection ... its so smooth and simple yet so satisfying. With just the right amount of bass and the drums in all the right places. Then dubstep came along and things dropped in quality quicker than a phat wob ... Dubstep is tasteless and a disgrace to the dub family ... You need to use things like bass in comoderation not just make the dirtiest sound possible ... I respect Everyones taste in music except if you like dubstep ...
 
it's the disgusting mutation of a wonderful genre of music called Dub. Lil reggae soundclips mixed and mashed into chill, deep, basic, almost psychadelic form of reggae.
Then came dubstep (whatever the fuck that is), and the idea that anyone with a fancy computer and bass is automatically a DJ...

too fucking right man
 
Dubstep is my fav genre at the moment it involves deep loud bass and heavy ass drops.Trying to make my own but not the best getting better tho!

Some good songs are

Flux pavilion-I cant stop

Deadmau5 - Ghosts N Stuff (Nero Remix)

NERO 'PROMISES' (SKRILLEX AND NERO REMIX)

Hey Sexy Lady - Skrillex

Skrillex - Ruffneck Bass

^^^One of my favs^^^

Now bask in the joy of filthy dubstep!!! :D

that shit is OK...as music goes. OK - you like Skrillex too much though, lol...find something better, because there is...and they're probably English ;)

But nah forrealz - this isn't dubstep - it's music...it's too far removed from dubstep to be called that anymore dewd

deep, reverberating bass (aka 'wobble')
samples of vocals that can be repeated (ie: haunting)
makes you want to melt into the ground beneath your feet
progressive, some may say repetitive, but in a relative way that trance is progressive and emotional
deep
dirty
grungy
dark
sexy
slightly reminiscent of dub/reggae




there is good dubstep and there is bad dubstep like any other genre of music. you just gotta listen to more and more and more and more to figure out where that fine line is for you :D :P

THIS is what dubstep is. AYE.

WHoever posted Midnight Request Line thanks - ain;t heard that in a while... just found out my mates have been signed to Benga's label <3
 
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