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I honestly don't think I could describe my Mdma experience with words. The music! Oh....My......GOD the music! It's like every song I heard was as if I've heard it for the first time in my life. Even songs I've heard a million times before. They where almost unrecognizable in....the....best way. There is just an impossibly large difference between listening to music, and actually FEELING the music. I don't think I've ever in my life actually FELT the music. I would literally get lost in it as if every song was this beautiful visual array of lights, thoughts, visuals. It was almost akin to how people describe synesthesia. And I had absolutely zero awareness of my body. Just imagine that. No aches and pains. No physical discomfort. No negative thoughts, or insecurities. Just........the.......music.

And I know it may sound like a first time experience. Like I'm over exaggerating. But I've taken Mdma at least 7 times before. And none of those experiences came close to this. Which makes me wonder...... why? Why was this experience was so much more profound???. I really couldn't explain how much love I felt, how impossible good the music sounded. It was like every note sent shivers down my spine in the best way! The base especially! All the other experiences I had where good. Really good. But this was just so much different.

Has anyone had anything like this??? Is this really how good rolling is???? Because my dose was about the same as every other time I've taken it.

I really really wish everyone could experience this though. Because no matter how depressed you are, how much pain you see or experience in this world.. You CANNOT deny that pure unadulturated love still exists somewhere in each of our hearts. And as hard as it may be to access in everyday life, the fact that it's somewhere in there gives me hope. This is coming from a brain that's basically known nothing but depression and anxiety it's whole life. Beauty exists in ALL of us. It's just really really hard to access. lol. But it IS somewhere inside. No matter how depressed, or miserable, or hard life is. There is something beyond it. Something so beautiful that using words might as well be meaningless.
Yeah you also felt the nuances and imagine 3 days of doing that at largest Music Festival on Earth...Been there and NOW IMAGINE everybody feleling that together ---? That is the experience of once in a life time I had Ultra Miami 2016 ---3 Days of utter Bliss and everyone sharing the experience. Had super good experiences in 1990s for sure but that was EPIC with Hardwell and Tiesto and Vassy opening . Never ever will be topped. Glad your experience was that special and we knew also how to roll right...Not the KEYS or MATCHES for the fire but"" THE FUEL"" and had cooler in hand literally , that was EPIC ! Get a chance pull up on youtube and see for yourself ...That performance put Hardwell into Master of DJs forever! :love::green banana::rockon::rockon::rockon:
 
We've been debating why for hundreds of pages (First discussion here. Second discussion here. See the second post in the second discussion for a nice summary of the discussion so far). Summarized, we have no idea. Could be that something changed in the process of making MDMA. Could be that there are certain impurities that are in play. In some cases it could indeed be cut MDMA. Could be because of a very technical, chemical reason. Or it could be a different reason entirely. There are also a lot of people that hold the opinion it's due to something that changed in the people themselves by using it too often. But there are a lot of people like you that are relatively new to it and have the same experience. I was firmly in the camp of "it's something with the people themselves and with myself" up until a certain experience a few years ago that completely changed my perspective on it, comparable to your experience. The thing is, a lot of people are experiencing this difference with MDMA 10-15 years ago. We have no idea why. But the fact of the matter is that when I started using MDMA 20 years ago, all MDMA (or better said, all MDMA experiences) was like you describe and if I would have gotten the experience that is mainstream these days from a batch I bought back then, I would have thrown it in the trash and given the person I bought it from an earful. The MDMA of back then changed me as a person and everyone around me as well, for the better, it changed my outlook on life and helped me get out of a dark path I was on. I really miss it. Don't get me wrong, my experiences these days are still very enjoyable but for different reasons and much less earth-shatteringly, mindblowingly, otherworldly amazing. It's exactly like you say, like it's two different drugs
I agree 100% If it was only a change in the people themselves, I don’t think my first few mdma experiences would have been so disappointing. Seeing as I was brand new, and it should theoretically be the most profound experience as it would be completely new to my brain. Like I said those first few experiences where good, really good. But that’s it. The music was better. I had a decent increase in empathy. But after those experiences I was still kind of dissapointed. Like “This is what people describe as the most profound, love encompassing experience of their lives?” And this was after taking fairly big doses. I think I took .3g with a .2 booster of that low quality mdma. But this time, I think I only took .250g with no booster. It was head and shoulders above all those experiences. And yet it somehow wasn’t as intense. In fact it felt much cleaner.

I strongly disbelieve that “It’s just the people that changed” argument. I mean it was the very last experience I had, with a smaller dose that was the most profound. And the weird part was that it felt less “intoxicating”. It didn't feel as much like I was on a drug. I can’t really explain it. It was less intense in a way, but the emotions, and the music, where on a different level.
 
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