Will Cannabis help me cope with my breakup ? ?

[Artificial Emotion]

^ yeah, I guess I'd agree with that. I think it all depends on how badly you're feeling. If you're really down in the dumps because of the breakup and feel utterly depressed then psychedelics really are the last thing you would want to take. They can be useful with therapy in a controlled environment, but just taking them haphazardly on your own when depressed is playing with fire.

 

[Jibult]

heh.. I guess cannabis is my crutch then. I've been using it constantly 24/7 almost a year now, though I've been smoking for 3 or 4 years before that. But life took a real bad downturn last year and since then I've gotten by by being high and facing the world and doing the things that need to be done and then some. That's on the practical side of things. As for the emotional side.. I'm genuinely scared of a time coming when I don't have any cannabis with me because the few times I've gone without even a day or two have been a mental hell.

This describes me to a T, circa 2008 and all the years before. The only "good" external crutch is another person, and even then you risk becoming overly dependent on something you don't have 100% control of.

It's best to be able to deal with stress independent of anybody and anything other than your own body and mind. Now, I'm not saying it's necessarily unhealthy to develop other kinds coping mechanisms, it's all about whatever works best for the individual.... I just know from personal experience that life goes so much easier when you don't have to rely on other people saying the right things or animals acting a certain way or drugs inducing a certain high to be able to push through high-stress situations.

^ yeah, I guess I'd agree with that. I think it all depends on how badly you're feeling. If you're really down in the dumps because of the breakup and feel utterly depressed then psychedelics really are the last thing you would want to take. They can be useful with therapy in a controlled environment, but just taking them haphazardly on your own when depressed is playing with fire.

I'd just like to stress the bold, underlined and italicized part of this quote. OP, with the way you've been talking I'd have to recommend to ABSOLUTELY NOT take any of the "harder" psychedelics while you feel the way you've described in this thread. Most, if not all, psychedelics intensify emotions. You already sound like you're in a negative enough place without the emotional amplification the ingestion of any psychedelic substance would induce.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

^ fuck, I'm glad someone agrees with me! I thought I was going mad.

They can be useful therapeutically, but only in the right hands i.e. an experienced psychiatrist and psychologist's.

 

[Chainer]

Eh, I found lsd to be one of the most helpful experiences I've had toward curing bouts of serious depression... that said, it's a completely personal experience - you've got to be prepared.

I actually just took 30mg 2c-e (rather earth shattering), which helped me align a few life priorities.

I still would not suggest using drugs as a method of coping with depression - it will become a habit.

 

[Jibult]

Eh, I found lsd to be one of the most helpful experiences I've had toward curing bouts of serious depression... that said, it's a completely personal experience - you've got to be prepared.

I actually just took 30mg 2c-e (rather earth shattering), which helped me align a few life priorities.

I feel kind of stupid for asking you this, but have you ever had a bad trip?

In my experience and to my knowledge (note to everyone else: not opinion) one of the most effective ways to guarantee a bad trip is to be experiencing any kind of negativity before dosing.

 

[Chainer]

I feel kind of stupid for asking you this, but have you ever had a bad trip?

Um... well... I've had experienced ego death a few times, and had two occasions where I was 100% sure that my entire life was an illusion (really freaked me out) - but I wouldn't call it a bad trip. I don't really like the phrase "bad trip," mostly because you learn the most about yourself when you have to deal with that kind of psychological adversity. Also, when you regain some composure, you get to be really introspective about what triggered that certain event.

It's the more difficult experiences I have while tripping that I remember the best, not the times I spent looking up at clouds or at tiles in my bathroom drooling, lol.

 

[Jibult]

Um... well... I've had experienced ego death a few times, and had two occasions where I was 100% sure that my entire life was an illusion (really freaked me out) - but I wouldn't call it a bad trip. I don't really like the phrase "bad trip," mostly because you learn the most about yourself when you have to deal with that kind of psychological adversity.

I don't like people that scoff at the phrase "bad trip," especially when all that's meant by the word "bad" is a trip involving emotions most would consider negative. People call trips involving amplified negative emotions "bad" because they're generally not enjoyable, not because they're unproductive (because they can, in fact, be extremely productive and quite useful.)

It's the more difficult experiences I have while tripping that I remember the best, not the times I spent looking up at clouds or at tiles in my bathroom drooling, lol.

Me too, man, and I'm not quite sure why that is.




For the record, I've never had a therapeutic experience from psychedelics. I've had extremely enjoyable, recreational experiences.... but none that could be called medicinal or therapeutic. Again, that's not to say that psychedelics aren't therapeutic because I believe they can be in certain individuals, that's just saying I've yet to have that kind of experience.