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Why the hell is alcohol legal anyways? What do you think?

"please drug responsibly" i live to see that slogan. Why not make drug laws simular to the laws about manufacturing homemade alcohol for personal use (person over a certain age can have X amount of a drug in a time frame) and purchase of drugs would be from a dispensary. And to up the amount needed for compensation for tolerance, just have to make an appointment with a doctor for a "dosage physical" and s/he can write a waiver to have added to your "account" so you can purchase a higher dose if the doctor deems it ok. Of course people will stigmatize drug users even when drugs become legal but people who drink (or sometimes those who DON'T drink) are stigmatized. Change is rough, the govt probably doesnt want to go through the hassle.
 
sleepwalker said:
aggreed, the government earns a lot ,A LOT, on those taxes.
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That's it in a nutshell. In the states I think you have the Iron Triangle, the three stronest pressure groups in Washington Alcohol, Tobbaco and Firearms. These groups provide funding to both parties so unless the Greens get in, they're all here to stay. Sorry
 
I predict that many drugs will soon be decriminalized or the penalties greatly reduced, at least, for being in possession or whatever.

I wouldn't have thought it possible a few years ago, but I think that the whole RC scene changed things drastically. It's hard and takes a lot of time and money and everything else to continue making new drugs illegal. I think that research chemicals will eventually force our hand and move us more toward greater drug education, rehabilitation and support, more in that direction than in the other direction -- police, prisons, and so on.

But then again, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time that a government has gone far, far, far out of its way to write and then enforce a law that is unbelievably, unimaginably difficult and impossible, even, to enforce. So... we'll see! It looks like we're still marching to the same beat as of right now, with our representatives signing off on laws and emergency ordinances and whatever else to make these new RCs illegal. 8)
 
verso said:
I predict that many drugs will soon be decriminalized or the penalties greatly reduced, at least, for being in possession or whatever.
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I agree, but I think that any changes made in these directions will still be for financial reasons. Look at all of the drug courts popping up all over the country under the pretense of "wanting to help people get their lives back together and avoid serious consequences." What's actually going on? The rich kids from the suburbs who get caught copping down near the cities get placed in drug court via their private attorneys. Not the poor people (and often the minorities) from the inner city slums (despite drug court social workers telling people that "addiction doesn't discriminate." Well how the state handles it definitely does!). And why is this? Because the people in the drug courts are precisely the ones who will be able to pay the high associated costs required to participate in the program. Instead of sending them to jail where they will be an expense, put them in a program where they can be a source of profit. And hire a bunch of sheepish counselor-types who actually believe they are doing something good to run the programs to make it look responsible in the eyes of the public. It's all a cover, really, and this is why there's reform like this going on in the handling of drug crimes.
 
It's legal because it makes people rich. Not the consumer, duh, I mean the big alcohol companies.


Alcohol costs more by volume than water and gasoline... that's really something to think about...

Big alcohol is just like big tobacco, they both sell cancerous blends of addictive poison while making $$$$$$$.
 
Im in a drug court program and id say 80% of us are through private attorneys. I paid $3500 for mine. Others paid over $5000. Im lucky as im out of state as well (i live on the edge of mississippi river on the illinois side and got popped in st louis missouri).
 
no one really knows.. i'm in the throws of alcohol addiction now and it's even worse than my heroin and meth habits..
 
Long Clips said:
no one really knows.. i'm in the throws of alcohol addiction now and it's even worse than my heroin and meth habits..
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Tell me about it! Every few months I quit CT for 1-2 weeks before throwing caution to the wind and going back to the fucking sauce.

My parents don't give a shit anymore, my roommates (who are 18 years my senior) don't give a shit anymore, no one fucking cares that I have a problem--and obviously I know it myself.

I may not be totally pickled yet, but I won't deny that I can see the writing on the goddamned wall.

Alcohol is legal in my opinion because the culture behind it is too strong and storied to eradicate it from society. It's literally an ancient drug that can be produced easily and organically. People have genetic predispositions to liking it, just like anything else. Prohibition failed in the USA because you can't simply take something that's been engrained (God I love puns) in our entire world's culture for thousands of years and suddenly make it "immoral." After the government conceded its untenable constraints on our supremely unrelenting desire, they did what they had to do. Begin to encourage and tax the hell out of the habit.

Alcohol is legal now because it makes money in far too many ways for far too many people, and it will only ever become a taboo if humanity's entire collective consciousness changes. The desire for escapism and the lessening of inhibitions--for better or for worse--is extremely prevalent in many of us. All too often alcohol is the fastest and most accepted way to get there.
 
Alcohol is legal now because prohibition failed miserably and caused a rise in organized crime...sounds a lot like the war on drugs tbh
 
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