Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives

[Antavio09]

So in layman's terms you are saying the person that started this thread is a troll?

yes indeed.

 

[qwe]

my troll thread generated some great discussion. also, just because i post an article, that doesn't mean i believe the article's premise

lMAO. GTFO Liberals have emotion and irrational feelings that make them feel they need to accommodate everything b/c god forsake someone be uncomfortable. Conservatives have the logic but are often closed minded b/c of their stern beliefs/religious BS

it depends on whether you grow up in a more liberal or a more conservative society. i grew up in a conservative region (pray fast, end abortion signs on everyone's yard and car atm) and hence when i hear political debates the liberal side is often represented by contrarians and the libs use logic against what they percieve as merely emotional beliefs of the right. i imagine it is the reverse in a mainly liberal region. and of course, there are so many other factors here, we can't really answer this logic vs emotion question definitively

however, since conservative ideology has nearly always been hand in hand with those in power, with religious and magical thinking, and with "collective emotions" (the "profane" like anti-drug, anti-sex; the "profound" like the american flag, religion) i'd say conservatives are, overall, if we are speaking in such abstract terms, on the more emotional side of the fence

and when libs are emotionally heated in a debate, it's usually about empathy. a far better emotion/motivation than what is behind nationalism and such

 

[Antavio09]

if that is true how do you explain joy bayhar? she motivated by a primordial pig like lust for foods and resources of all kinds. not just her but other famous libs namedrop micheal moore, rob reiner, jay leno, oprah, .....

Its easy to be liberal when you have money.

 

[Herbal~Jah]

I Think Both "Left" and "Right" wing people are both crazy idiots. just make me the dictator of

the US and I could have it looking like a real Utopian society.. But what do i know....



(( i guess if I had more money I could make a differnece))

 

[marsmellow]

A. America is a rotten, racist, oppressive, stupid, evil empire.

The ones in bold are true.

Just look at this or this.

B. I dont praise radical left wing zealots like Noam Chomsky, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, George Soros, Michael Moore, Che Gueverra, Fidel Castro, Chairman Mao, Hugo Chavez, etc.,

Most progressives don't praise those people either.

C. I dont use the race card as a political weapon, because I realize that it doesn't help anyone, and it hurts blacks in the long run.

Define what you mean by race card.

D. I think things through, instead of simply swallowing ridiculous left wing propaganda hook-line-and sinker, then getting all emotional, and basing my decisions solely on emotion.

This is one of the dumbest right-wing talking points out there. First, because almost every time there is a debate between them, the conservatives lose badly. And second, because almost everyone bases their political beliefs on emotion.

E. I debate people, instead of simply trying to smear and destroy anyone who disagrees with me.

Let's see you do it then.

F. I dont believe that Latino illegal immigrants should be able to break our laws, and get away with it just because they are Latinos.

G. I dont call everyone a racist who believes that Latinos should follow our laws like everyone else.

Progressives don't either.

H. I believe in EQUAL RIGHTS for everyone, just like Martin Luther King Jr did., and I dont call everyone a racist who also believe in equal rights, but dont believe in Affirmative action(ie. discrimination).

I'll just quote an older post of mine.

"White people have advantages and better access to things than minorities do. White people always receive affirmative action. From cradle to grave. That is why minorities need it too. Because things are not equal right now. Whites and minorities do not have equal rights."

I. I dont think we should lash out and hate ALL businesses, and 'punish' them by coming up with unrealistic, unfair taxes and regulations that force them to leave the country(which is possible thanks to NAFTA and the trade agreement with China that has caused millions and millions of US jobs to go overseas, thanks Bill Clinton!)

Thank the republicans too. That was a 'bi-partisan' thing. Both parties played a role in passing it.

Why not get rid of NAFTA, if it's causing problems? I'll quote another one of my old posts to explain why we need to increase taxes on the rich and their mega-corporations:

"Companies are firing people, reducing wages, and working the remaining workers harder, to increase profits. But that is going to backfire, because who buys the things that these companies are making? The workers do. Rich people only need so many TVs. If the average person can't afford to buy a TV, demand for TVs will drop massively. That is the main problem right now. All the money is being sucked up to the top, and that is reducing demand for the things that these companies make. And when that happens, the businesses do badly, and they fire workers and cut wages some more. It's a vicious circle, and it won't stop until the workers/consumers start to organize and fight back against it."

J. I hold both political parties accountable, instead of blaming one party(R) for everything(regardless if they are responsible or not) and giving a complete pass to the other political party(D).

Another quote of myself:

"Obama is probably the biggest con man in history. Almost everything he said on the campaign was a lie. Fuck him."

Free pass? Sure. 8)

K. I don't believe in repealing the 1st amendment rights of conservative talk show hosts on A.M. radio, and Fox news just because I disagree with them.

Neither do liberals. This is a right-wing myth.

You are talking about the fairness doctrine, right? All that would do, is force shows to have someone on from the other side on, so there will be a debate. It wouldn't force conservatives off the air. It would just force them to defend their point of view. It would do the same to left leaning hosts. Keith Olbermann would have to have a conservative on his show too.

L. I don't CONSTANTLY insult people who I politically disagree with

Bullshit. In this post I'm quoting, you did it a number of times. You said progressives are radicals, zealots, emotional, said they give democrats a free pass, said that they want to get rid of 2 parts of the bill of rights... You THINK you don't insult people, but you do.

M. I don't think that leading minorities into lifelong(or generations long) dependency on government is a good thing for them or society, as 'an idle mind and body is the devil's playground' (you get the point)

Idle minds are the reason why civilization exists. If people were constantly working in the fields, they wouldn't have had time to come up with things like democracy and science.

"Philosophy began in Greece because of available leisure time"

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/...sophy_Philosophers_after_the_Presocratics.htm

N. I don't think that a 1 party, Democrat monopoly on power, without accountability is a good idea.

Neither do I. The democrats suck. That is the reason why I really want to change our election system, so third parties will have a chance at winning.

O. I don't want to repeal the 2nd amendment, just because some people have been brainwashed into hating guns, as it is painfully obvious to those that actually look at it from an open mind, that doing so would not stop violence or murders

I agree. Better social programs and education would do a lot more than gun control to stop murders and violence.

I could finish the alphabet, but I gotta go to bed, cause 'I' gotta work to pay taxes for all those future liberal entitlement programs for the lazy.

Poor people aren't lazy. You have to be looking for work to be on welfare, otherwise you will get kicked off. They just aren't able to find jobs. We have more than 10% unemployment at the moment, and there are 5 applicants for each job available. So, it is impossible for some people to find work.

People aren't intelligent just because they say so, or just because they join up with the left.

Agreed.

I'm not buying the "we are all geniuses, are everyone else is stupid" mantra of the left.

That is a straw man. Nobody said that.

 

[ebola?]

The ones in bold are true.

I would say that America, as a partially bounded social system, is also racist (saying nothing of whether or not American individuals tend to hold above average amounts of personal racial prejudice).

ebola

 

[Bardeaux]

I could finish the alphabet, but I gotta go to bed, cause 'I' gotta work to pay taxes for all those future liberal entitlement programs for the lazy.

Hey thanks! I'd get up and contribute to society too, but yenno...why would I when I can just collect my free $200 a month in foodstamps? Sucker! Yeah it's pretty sweet living on government handouts.

I sell my foodstamps for crack, so uh, thanks for the crack. I get high all day while you're out working and paying taxes like a true American.

 

[rangrz]

your numbers on terrorism are skewed. You have no idea the almost, and near success attacks that are foiled by lots of money and spooks. That info is and will remain well out of the public domain.

 

[Kenickie]

i think we all need a song!

I cried when they shot John Lennon
Tears ran down my spine
And I cried when I saw "JFK"
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X and Ice-T had it coming
They got what they asked for this time

CHORUS
So love me, love me, love me
I'm a liberal

I go to pro-choice rallies
Recycle my cans and jars
I'll honk if you love the Dead
Hope those funny grunge bands become stars
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far

CHORUS

I cheered when Clinton was chosen
My faith in the system reborn
I'll do anything to save our schools
If my taxes ain't too much more

And I love blacks and gays and Latinos
As long as they don't move next door

CHORUS


Rush Limbaugh and the L.A.P.D.
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand where they're at
Arsenio should set them straight
But if Neighborhood Watch doesn't know you
I hope the cops take your name

CHORUS

Yeah, I read the New Republic(an)
Rolling Stone and Mother Jones too
If I vote it's a Democrat
With a sensible economy view
But when it comes to terrorist Arabs
There's no one more red, white and blue

CHORUS

Once I was young and had an attitude
Stickers covered the car I drove in
Even went on some direct actions
When there weren't rent-a-cops to be seen
Ah, but now I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGDT7wKvdRk

 

[EA-1475]

As a demographic, African-Americans are some of the least educated people in America with the highest rates of dropouts and lowest college enrollments when broken down by group. And yet African-Americans vote for the Democrats over 90%.

How do you explain this?

 

[Droppersneck]

As a demographic, African-Americans are some of the least educated people in America with the highest rates of dropouts and lowest college enrollments when broken down by group. And yet African-Americans vote for the Democrats over 90%.

How do you explain this?

Race has played into politics for ever. Right now the progressives hold the upper hand with the black vote. A hundred years ago conservatives did.

 

[Kenickie]

As a demographic, African-Americans are some of the least educated people in America with the highest rates of dropouts and lowest college enrollments when broken down by group. And yet African-Americans vote for the Democrats over 90%.

How do you explain this?

because a democrat was behind the civil rights act and african americans have long memories.

or because the right has so many racists under it's umbrella.

or because the right has done nothing to appeal to black voters. (Michael Steele? really? most blacks viewed that as a slap in the face, as women viewed the choice of Palin as an insult to them -- look there is a woman you're a woman vote for this woman who wants women to pay for their own rape kits! look, we have a black leader now, youre black he's black, support him like you did Obama!)

or because black people are socially conservative and fiscally progressive.

or

Blacks mostly voted Republican from after the Civil War and through the early part of the 20th century. That's not surprising when one considers that Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president, and the white, segregationist politicians who governed Southern states in those days were Democrats. The Democratic Party didn't welcome blacks then, and it wasn't until 1924 that blacks were even permitted to attend Democratic conventions in any official capacity. Most blacks lived in the South, where they were mostly prevented from voting at all.
The election of Roosevelt in 1932 marked the beginning of a change. He got 71 percent of the black vote for president in 1936 and did nearly that well in the next two elections, according to historical figures kept by the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies. But even then, the number of blacks identifying themselves as Republicans was about the same as the number who thought of themselves as Democrats.

It wasn't until Harry Truman garnered 77 percent of the black vote in 1948 that a majority of blacks reported that they thought of themselves as Democrats. Earlier that year Truman had issued an order desegregating the armed services and an executive order setting up regulations against racial bias in federal employment.
Even after that, Republican nominees continued to get a large slice of the black vote for several elections. Dwight D. Eisenhower got 39 percent in 1956, and Richard Nixon got 32 percent in his narrow loss to John F. Kennedy in 1960.

But then President Lyndon B. Johnson pushed through the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 (outlawing segregation in public places) and his eventual Republican opponent, Sen. Barry Goldwater, opposed it. Johnson got 94 percent of the black vote that year, still a record for any presidential election.

The following year Johnson signed the 1965 Voting Rights Act. No Republican presidential candidate has gotten more than 15 percent of the black vote since.

(from: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/when_did_blacks_start_voting_democratic.html)

 

[ebola?]

A hundred years ago conservatives did.

During that period (it's more than 100 years ago), the Republican party didn't garner all of the 'conservative' vote in this way.

ebola

 

[Droppersneck]

i

During that period (it's more than 100 years ago), the Republican party didn't garner all of the 'conservative' vote in this way.

ebola

I was guestimating, sue me

 

[Wyld 4 X]

As a demographic, African-Americans are some of the least educated people in America with the highest rates of dropouts and lowest college enrollments when broken down by group. And yet African-Americans vote for the Democrats over 90%.

How do you explain this?

Empty hopes and dreams are better than being ignored for the most part.

 

[Kenickie]

Empty hopes and dreams are better than being ignored for the most part.

unless they do someting to bring more and more non whites in, the right will turn into a bunch of frightened, hysterical white people who don't just ignore them, but hate them, as they now feel about latinos.

 

[qwe]

we (upper white america) already seem to hate their culture...

reality shock as white kids get sent off to prison too the drug war is falling apart slowly but surely now

 

[Droppersneck]

we (upper white america) already seem to hate their culture...

reality shock as white kids get sent off to prison too the drug war is falling apart slowly but surely now

Amnesty is not fair to the people of America. The cultural make up of certain parties voting bases has traditionally changed through out the centuries.

 

[qwe]

i meant black culture

also i think your second sentence argues against what you implied in the first sentence?

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

I think Republicans are more likely to bring in the Hispanic voting block, and not the black voting block.